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    Palkia doesn't 100% need support, it simply needs support for one of it's sets. While it's most dangerous set needs rain support, which Kyogre does by simply going into the battle, it's like it doesn't even need support. Rain themed teams may need the rain, but the rain comes into play permanently on turn 1. This means there is always support, so all rain team pokes function to their ability 100%.

    Even so, something like specs Palkia can take advantage of both the rain and sunlight, which either weather will appear in ubers (Sandstream teams just get ripped apart by STAB surf anyways). Draco Meteor pummels anything in it's path, and with specs backing it, almost everything dies miserably; including Mewtwo.

    Also, just to prove my point, here's an example of how Palkia beats Mewtwo. Specs Draco Meteor from a Modest Palkia OHKO's Mewtwo, even with max sp. def (nuetral nature) and minimum HP. If he runs EVs into max sp. def, he loses out of speed, meaning he has to split his EVs into HP, Sp. atk, AND speed, meaning he loses out on even a 2HKO. Palkia then proceeds to 2HKO.

    Now, if Mewtwo runs max HP but no sp. def EVs, he's still OHKO'd by Draco Meteor. If he runs max HP and Sp. def (enhancing nature), he's 2HKO'd by Spacial Rend/Surf (with or without rain), while he can't even manage a 2HKO himself. Basically, no matter which way you put it, Palkia OHKO's Mewtwo before Palkia gets 2HKO'd, or 2HKO's Mewtwo before he can be 3HKO'd.

    If you want proof, use a damage calculator. I ran all the correct numbers.

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    Alright if you want to change my mind, battle me.

    And good luck getting the exact scenario of which you used bc...

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    Wow, I present you with solid proof and you're still not giving in... Lol fine, be stubborn. We'll battle then. Just give me another minute to finish hatching some eggs, breeding some synchronizers.

    EDIT: ... Where'd Lastwords go? -.-
    Last edited by Splash_King; 03-28-2009 at 04:52 PM.

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    I sill say Mewtwo owns all. Maybe not stats wise and all, but going by the general story of Pokemon, yeah, Mewtwo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodine View Post
    I sill say Mewtwo owns all. Maybe not stats wise and all, but going by the general story of Pokemon, yeah, Mewtwo.
    I can agree with that much. :P

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    no. Storywise its all Arceus

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    In my personall opinion, Arceus can go to hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    In my personall opinion, Arceus can go to hell.
    I love you.

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    yes Arceus can go to hell. then he can come back and kill everything cause he's a god

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    Since when can god be KOd by a Rattata?
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