The Official Pokemon Challenge Thread - Black/White Edition

[TMankey]

It took me a while to work this out, but I did. Get a Basculin. They can learn waterfall, surf, dive and cut. For fly and strength, there is no really easy way to get a single pokemon that can learn them in black but if you can trade with yourself from another game, you can use a rufflet, braviary, golurk or any of the legendaries. These are the only gen V pokemon that can learn both of this moves.

Perfect! I got a Rufflet in White, so that'll work. Thnx.

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[bou0010]

Perfect! I got a Rufflet in White, so that'll work. Thnx.

Happy to help. Could you adjust my movesets in my scramble/moveset. All the info is on the previous page (I think)

Just ran into one problem. How on Earth am I going to beat the Ghost Elite 4 member? Should I learn Punishment? Because I'll need Low Kick for Grimsley, Seismic Toss for Kaitlyn, Karate Chop+Seismic Toss for Marshal, the only slot left is Work Up, and thats only good in combo with Punishment.....

And Primeape cant learn any Ghost moves, so is there an item/move?

You're right. That is a problem. I'm going to give a lot of suggestions as to what you can to. And I mean A LOT. Not all of them will be good, these are just things that would work (Theoretically)

-Outrage (B2W2 move tutor) Trade your Primape over to B2/W2 (if you have one) and take it to the move tutor (I'm not sure which one)
-Stone Edge (TM 71) May be a problem due to 5 PP and 80% accuracy and the fact that Grimsley has 5 pokemon
-Thunder Bolt/Thunder (TM 24/25) (accuracy/power depends on personal preference)
-Overheat (TM50) Sp. Def drop will definitely be a problem towards the end
-Rock Slide (TM 80)
-Earthquake (TM 26) Probably the best option. Don't know why I only saw this now.

[TMankey]

Happy to help. Could you adjust my movesets in my scramble/moveset. All the info is on the previous page (I think)



You're right. That is a problem. I'm going to give a lot of suggestions as to what you can to. And I mean A LOT. Not all of them will be good, these are just things that would work (Theoretically)

-Outrage (B2W2 move tutor) Trade your Primape over to B2/W2 (if you have one) and take it to the move tutor (I'm not sure which one)
-Stone Edge (TM 71) May be a problem due to 5 PP and 80% accuracy and the fact that Grimsley has 5 pokemon
-Thunder Bolt/Thunder (TM 24/25) (accuracy/power depends on personal preference)
-Overheat (TM50) Sp. Def drop will definitely be a problem towards the end
-Rock Slide (TM 80)
-Earthquake (TM 26) Probably the best option. Don't know why I only saw this now.

Thanks bou, I knew I couldn't get by with Thief+Black Glasses. (I ran into a couple of Yamasks at the Desert "Resort") Shauntal, the ghost EF, has Chandelure, which is immune to Ground, so Earthquake is out. Even though Shauntal only has 4 Pokes, she has Jellicent, which would take about 100 Stone Edges, Thunder and Overheat are Special, but Rockslide looks good, but its not strong against Golurk or Jellicent. But, if I could get Outrage, that would sweep! Especially after something gets a crit! (Primeape's ability is Anger Point) But am I allowed to trade over just to get a move? But think about Outrage at x6 with Attack IV 30? Primeape would own! Thnx bou.

PS, nice Profile pic.

[TMankey]

BOU?
Your Pidgeot? Or your whole team? Because it looks pretty good. And if you are using Swagger, than your set for Pidgeot, right? The only thing is that for Umbreon, I put Faint Attack over Pursuit. Crap! Another Double-Post! The world hates me.

BLACK PRIMEAPE SOLO

I'm at Clay's gym with Primeape level 42. He's holding the BlackGlasses, and has Karate Chop, Low Kick, Thief, and Seismic Toss.

HEARTGOLD SCRAMBLE/UNEVOLVED

Like I said, tommorrow's update goes all the way to Azaelea, through Ilex Forest, and back through Goldenrod, where I catch ScZ. Plus now that the tutorial is over, my updates won't be so long.

[bou0010]

I'll reply to these posts bit by bit. I wasn't thinking properly when I posted so I made a few mistakes.

Shauntal, the ghost EF

Like I said, I wasn't really thinking properly when I posted and couldn't be bothered confirming who the Ghost E4 was.

Even though Shauntal only has 4 Pokes

Same as before

She has Jellicent, which would take about 100 Stone Edges

Good point. I didn't take into consideration what pokemon she had.

Thunder and Overheat are Special

Just thought about it now and realised that even if they weren't special (which I already knew) they wouldn't work. Thunder wouldn't work against Golurk and Overheat would do hardly anything to Chandelure, Jellicent or Golurk, especially after all those special attack drops and with Primape having only 60 base power.

But, if I could get Outrage, that would sweep! Especially after something gets a crit! (Primeape's ability is Anger Point) But am I allowed to trade over just to get a move? But think about Outrage at x6 with Attack IV 30? Primeape would own!

I totally agree with the fact that it would destroy her team. Especially with that ability and attack IV. I'm not sure if you're allowed to trade for a move. I think it's fine but I'M NOT THE ONE WHO MAKES THE RULES (Just wanted to make that stand out to anyone who would get angry at me for telling someone what they can or can't do in a challenge. I'm looking at you Splash_King )

Edit: Well I just decided to re-read the rules and it turns out you're not allowed to trade to get a move. So outrage is out. I wish you the best of luck beating Shauntal with your Primape. Maybe you could get it to level 100 so that you will be really over-levelled and have a chance at beating her with not very effective moves.
And Jellicent's cursed body could be a problem as well.

Thnx bou.

PS, nice Profile pic.

You're welcome. Call me Jordan. I just use bou0010 as my username for everything to make it easier for me to remember.
Thank you. I was searching for an eeveelutions picture for my pic and found this. I thought it was really cool. Especially with their reflections being shiny

BOU?
Your Pidgeot? Or your whole team? Because it looks pretty good. And if you are using Swagger, than your set for Pidgeot, right? The only thing is that for Umbreon, I put Faint Attack over Pursuit.

What I meant was that I want all the HMs in their movesets so I don't have to replace one of my pokemon with an HM slave.

[TMankey]

If you want all the HMs, then Starmie/Staryu would have to learn Waterfall. If you do want Star- to get Waterfall, you should probably get rid of Bubblebeam because surf is better:
Bubblebeam has base power of 65. Surf has a base power 95. Bubblebeam can be used 20 times, allowing 1300 base power total. Surf only has 15 PP, which amounts to 1425 base power. Comparing Accuracy, of 100 Bubblebeams, 95 would hit. But of 100 surfs 100 would hit. So, if you want HM03, you'll have to replace Bubblebeam.

The remaining 2 are Strength and Rock Climb. I'd give Kricketune Strength, just cuz he can't attack much anyway, so Sing & Xscissor are his thing, I'd take away Aerial Ace, because in most cases, you wouldn't use it anyway. The only Pokemon that can learn rock climb is Rampardos, and I feel like I'm taking all the TMs away, I think I'm missing why those Mons have those moves. But thats only if you don't wanna get HM slave...

[bou0010]

If you want all the HMs, then Starmie/Staryu would have to learn Waterfall. If you do want Star- to get Waterfall, you should probably get rid of Bubblebeam because surf is better:
Bubblebeam has base power of 65. Surf has a base power 95. Bubblebeam can be used 20 times, allowing 1300 base power total. Surf only has 15 PP, which amounts to 1425 base power. Comparing Accuracy, of 100 Bubblebeams, 95 would hit. But of 100 surfs 100 would hit. So, if you want HM03, you'll have to replace Bubblebeam.

The remaining 2 are Strength and Rock Climb. I'd give Kricketune Strength, just cuz he can't attack much anyway, so Sing & Xscissor are his thing, I'd take away Aerial Ace, because in most cases, you wouldn't use it anyway. The only Pokemon that can learn rock climb is Rampardos, and I feel like I'm taking all the TMs away, I think I'm missing why those Mons have those moves. But thats only if you don't wanna get HM slave...

So you're proposing for me to use the following movesets?:

KRICKETUNE
-X scissor
-Sing
-Strength
-Rock smash

STARMIE
-Recover
-Waterfall
-Psychic
-Surf

PIDGEOT
-Tailwind
-Twister
-Fly
-Defog

UMBREON
-Confuse Ray
-Pursuit
-Shadowball
-Cut

PORYGON-Z
-Nasty Plot
-Tri Attack
-Thunderbolt
-Recover

RAMPARDOS (Which move should I get rid of and replace with Rock Climb? I can't chose, it's a moveset challenge.)
-Head Smash
-Rock Slide
-Zen Headbutt
-Earthquake

Chandelure, which is immune to Ground, so Earthquake is out.

Chandelure's possible abilities are Flame Body and Flash Fire (I can't believe I forgot about this earlier) so Earthquake would work against it. The only problem with Earthquake is Jellicent. It may take a few EQs to KO it and Cursed Body could be really annoying if it disables your EQ.

[TMankey]

Yeah. You don't have to worry. Star- will own anything it has to with recover, and Kricketune was (sorta) useless from the start...

For Rampardos, probably Earthquake, just because RS has better Base Power, and Rock is super effective on Flying, and EQ can't hit it...

HEARTGOLD UPDATE:

-Went through route 32
-Hiked through Union Cave
-Passed route 33 & went to Kurt's House to trigger Slowpoke Well scheme
-Defeated the Rocket Grunts
-KOed Proton
-KOed Bugsy (It's a guy, right?)
-KOed Silver
-Went halfway through Ilex
-Spent 2 hours leveling up DaQuil, Rocky, & Bird while trying
to find a Scyther (Lv 21)
-Found out Scyther isn't in Ilex Forest
- Stormed out of Ilex
-Got Pear to level 21 at route 34
-Went through the Department Store
-KOed Whitney
-Got the Watering Can (Whats that called?)
-Caught Sudowoodo
- Went through the National Park BCC
-FINALLY CAUGHT ScZ
-Got ScZ to level 18
-Saved

Is this format better? Because it took 4 updates for ONE gym. But one update for 2 gyms? This is my new format.

[bou0010]

Yeah. You don't have to worry. Star- will own anything it has to with recover, and Kricketune was (sorta) useless from the start...

For Rampardos, probably Earthquake, just because RS has better Base Power, and Rock is super effective on Flying, and EQ can't hit it...

Cool thanks.

My new scramble/moveset team is

KRICKETUNE
-X scissor
-Sing
-Strength
-Rock smash

STARMIE
-Recover
-Waterfall
-Psychic
-Surf

PIDGEOT
-Tailwind
-Twister
-Fly
-Defog

UMBREON
-Confuse Ray
-Pursuit
-Shadowball
-Cut

PORYGON-Z
-Nasty Plot
-Tri Attack
-Thunderbolt
-Recover

RAMPARDOS
-Head Smash
-Rock Slide
-Zen Headbutt
-Rock Climb

[TMankey]

Jordan
How far are you into Diamond?

Mankey
Looking back at page 10, before I joined, any insults to Mankey will not be tolerated. If you hate on Mankey, I'll incinerate your family.

Primeape Solo
Just beat the Celestial Tower. The darn ghost types actually when down easily; OHKO with Thief, even tho I took off the blackglasses to put on Lucky Egg.

Heartgold Unevolved/Single

I forgot to mention some stuff I did last time...

-(LAST TIME: BEAT GOLDENROD TUNNEL, GOT RADIO PASS)
-Got ScZ to level 21
-Went through route 37
-Went to burned tower
-KOed Silver
-Saved
[EDITED]
-Grinded to 28
-KOed Morty
-Embarked Routes 38-39
-OH MY GOD WHY DAQUIL? WHY GET A CRITICAL HIT ON A SHINY BRO? WHAT DID THE MAGNEMITE DO TO YOU?
-Went to Olivine
-Got good rod
-Went all the way back to New Bark Town
-Got another everstone
-Caught Dr. Zues
-Got all the way up the Lighthouse
-Talked to Steelix Girl
-Taught Dr. Zues water HMs (And Charge Beam)
-Beat the Whirl Islands with Dr. Zues
-Dr. Zues is now level 20
-Got to Cianwood
-Saved

GAWD DaQUIL. WHY?!?!?!