For one, even if you don't spin away the hazards, it's entirely possible to get Charizard in before rocks are up. Say their rock setter is Skarmory. Xatu, for example, can either force it out or straight up kill it with Heat Wave. I'll use Gigalith as another example. No Magic Bounce user can take it out due to its high attack, but you can still prevent it from getting rocks up. Gliscor can Taunt Gigalith, and proceed to poison it or wear it down with Earthquake.
And as Dirge said, it doesn't use up a turn to mega evolve.
252 Atk+ Twistedspoon Deoxys-A Zen Headbutt vs 252/252+ Golem 36.5% - 43.1%
Zen Headbutt has the same effective power as Dual Chop, while Twistedspoon mimics Tough Claws. Also, Deoxys A.
I understand that you said Focus Sash, and not Sturdy, but does anybody even use frail suicide leads for Stealth Rock anymore? I know there's a few Spikers that do that, like Froslass and Accelgor, but nothing is coming to mind for SR...
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Where does it say it doesn't use a turn to mega evolve? I haven't seen anything like that posted/revealed anywhere. And yes I realize he is viable and you can use him but you have to build your team either around Zard getting out or using him as "Dirge" stated previously. I just still don't see him being viable enough to make a dent in competitive play.
when i do get pokemon y it will be around xmas time and generation 6 i pick froakie and generation 1 i pick charmander
Your friendly neighborhood cephalopod will take care of the countdown. I'll have the flashy numbers ready shortly.
It's only natural. And regarding your signature, I sent you the working URL for your banner in a VM a while ago, but I dunno if you saw it. Here it is again, in case you missed it:
And now, without further adieu, I present to you, Goomy!
It is amazing.
Here's another picture of it being amazing:
It's a pure Dragon-type, btw.
There are some other Pokemon floating around, but I won't be posting them. I saw a few on accident, and I'm kind of mad about that, as I've reached my limit with spoilers.
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