Hyper Beam on a Pixilate Sylveon was able to one-shot my Uber Yveltal.
But yeah it sucks horribly on Greninja.
Reading some guy trying to argue in favor of Hyper Beam Greninja on Smogon.
people, this has been common knowledge since generation two. HYPER BEAM AND VARIANTS OF IT SUCK. Except maaaaybe on certain Porygon-Z sets, that's about all I can think of.
The issue isn't as much that it'll get him killed. The issue is that you're giving your opponent a 100% free turn. They can send in Dragonite to set up Dragon Dance and sweep your team. They can send in Talonflame, use Swords Dance, and sweep your team. They can send in MegaPinsir and nab a Swords Dance boost, and -- you guessed it -- sweep your team.
Dying sucks too tho.
In other news, Bulbapedia and other sources are not giving me a clear answer on how much HP Cheek Pouch heals upon consuming a berry. It's only viable on Dedenne, which would explain the apparent lack of interest on the subject, but I'm still a bit curious. I guess I'll have to test it myself tonight.
Last edited by Neosquid; 01-27-2014 at 08:23 PM.
On that note, I wonder if HP Ground is worth usin' solely for the Electric immunity...