His down b that I mention that could have close distance but spiff says it's too slow so I guess it's not a real good idea.
On a side note I did play some people with Ganondorf, not Zelda, and it seems that the usual style I play that I apply to random character I use somewhat works for for him. The thing I have to get use to is that his smash range isn't as far as Olimar x3 His side smash is such a great finishing move, such high launch power. I manage to hit a few time with my mid-air down b, which was pretty deadly. I like his forward b as well but at times it doesn't reach, I'll have to learn its range better x3 pretty interesting character.