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    I'm supposed to face Lastwords? for an official + a title match. It'll have to be after that (still waiting for him to respond to my last question).


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    Go ahead then. I could wait.

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    Okay, Last responded on his profile :P. I'm going to go do it now. It'll probably be 30 minutes, or so, but we can train after. You should check out my thread: http://www.wiichat.com/super-smash-b...-regiment.html it basically does the same thing. People can teach other people what their lacking and even if they got it down pat... they won't get rusty this way.


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    Hm, I never used Olimar, but he may just have crappy recovery. You could watch some videos of experienced Olimar users and you may find a solution (if there is a solution, that is).
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    I have tried but they only show videos of themselves wining not loosing.

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    Okay I had an official with Lastwords?

    kingslayer vs. Lastwords?
    Zelda vs. MK - MK (Battlefield)
    Toon Link vs. MK - Toon Link (Final Destination)
    Wolf vs. MK - Wolf (Final Destination)

    @real-o: He's a red MK (now).


    I have to say it was quite funny.

    An official is 2-3 matches. We had about 20 XD. We kept ending running the timer out or not even getting one kill on each other... so lots of Sudden Deaths. It was quite fun... even if it has never happened before :P.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalsma View Post
    It's not called edgeguarding it's called edgehogging. They are to different things.
    Edgeguarding-When you prevent your opponent from getting back to the stage by hitting them.
    Edgehogging-When you cowardly stay hanging on the ledge by purpose to prevent your opponent(s) from recovering which usually leads to their unfair death. Usually done by cowards that know that they can't beat a certain person(s).

    Those definitions are put in my words.

    How are you going to stop him King? What are your plans?
    The second definition really has no value, you can't just jump on the ledge for an easy gimp. It takes prediction to decide if your enemy will go straight for the ledge, recovers above it, or even try to attack you once your invincibility frames are up. If you just jump on the ledge ASAP, you'll be hit by a recovery move (unless they're Olimar, Ivysaur, or Zamus; although they can still stage spike, just less often) and you'll get knocked off the ledge, or worse, stage spiked to your doom.

    Edgehogging is in no way a cheap death, considering it takes strategy and prediction. Especially not in a competitive match where money and pride are at stake.

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    It's okay CK... I'm teaching him a few tricks how to counter it with Olimar. Edgehogging is very easy to stop with Olimar... MK's edgeguarding however can be beastly. That takes more skill to get past. I need to practice to get my aim right... haven't used Olimar in a while (well against an edgeguarder at least).


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    I actually saw an amazing Olimar in a tourney who survived several edgehog attempts from a Marth, and in most cases put him close to death.

    Basically he just timed the Up B at weird times. So what happened is that when Marth went for the edge, he'd get hit by the Pikmin and stage spiked. It was very interesting to see.

    Oh yea, as usual I'm offering official or friendly matches.

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    I'd accept your official challenge, but I think I was the last one to have an official with you O.o.

    Anyway, the Up B can be incredible against edgehogging. You can hit them with an Up B and then follow with a spike (takes precise timing, but it's crazy XD).


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