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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    Don't you just love how people keep suggesting Shrek and Powerpuff Girls on Miiverse? Pathetic >.<
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    I actually hope Jigglypuff doesn't return.
    I'll overlook this one time since you support Ghirahim. One time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    lolno
    Why do you say that? If Sakurai's going to sack any characters, I feel like Ike is one of the most likely ones. I feel that it's weird that we know Marth is in the game but not him. If I remember correctly, Marth has always been a "secret" character, whereas Ike was default in Brawl. I feel like it would be weird to make Marth default alongside Ike, or to make Ike secret and Marth default. It's entirely possible, it's also entirely possible that unlockable characters simply aren't being hidden this time, but it still seems weird to me. Ike is also the most easily replaceable Brawl newcomer aside from maybe Red. It wouldn't make as much sense to do something like replace Wolf with Krystal, as Krystal was a viable candidate when Brawl was released. They wouldn't just replace him with her for no reason, I feel. However, Chrom, Lucina, and the Avatar are new characters that threaten to replace Ike. Olimar was in a similar situation with the Pikmin 3 playable characters, but not as much.

    I also feel like Ice Climbers might go. They haven't had any games in...how long? At least Game and Watch has the honor of representing an entire handheld, even if said handheld is mostly irrelevant now. ROB also seems somewhat likely but not as much. I could also see Snake going. And to a small extent Wolf. Besides that, I can't see any of the characters possibly getting removed.

    So....

    1. Ike
    2. Ice Climbers
    3. Snake
    4. ROB
    5. Red
    6. Wolf

    This is assuming that Sakurai does scrap veterans, which isn't necessarily confirmed, but I thought he mentioned once that he was going to.




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    Krystal is... Meh. I'd ****in love having Slippy or Peppy in the game, since they look so different and probably play different as well. Don't really see it happening though...

    And yeah I agree about the Ike-Marth theory.

    I read something about it being VERY unlikely of Snake returning, I think it was the maker of MGS. Yeah Ice Climbers and ROB have a very small chance of returning as well.

    I also read something about there being about as much characters as in Brawl, which is sad. I really hoped there would be at least 5 more.

    And why do you like Jigglypuff so much? I'd want him back if he got a new move-set, dont see that happening though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosquid View Post
    Why do you say that?
    Fire Emblem is more popular than ever with the success of Awakening; the series is growing, and so too should its roster representation in Smash. Ike was an incredibly popular character in Brawl. Everyone's reaction to losing Roy, despite 'em bein' a clone, was absurd disproportionate.

    Ike isn't leaving, nor being replaced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    I read something about it being VERY unlikely of Snake returning, I think it was the maker of MGS.
    It ain't unlikely so much as yet to be decided. Kojima is friends with Sakurai, which is why Snake got int' Smash Bros. in the first place. Accordin' to Kojima, they've yet to discuss Snake's return; judging from what he said, there were no plans to have a discussion. But Kojima sorely wants Snake t' return, so yeah. If Sakurai wills it, it'l happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    I also read something about there being about as much characters as in Brawl, which is sad. I really hoped there would be at least 5 more.
    Rumor 'til proven otherwise.
    Last edited by Splash_King; 04-02-2014 at 04:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    Krystal is... Meh. I'd ****in love having Slippy or Peppy in the game, since they look so different and probably play different as well. Don't really see it happening though...
    Me neither, though I would quite enjoy Slippy, and to a lesser extent Peppy.

    And why do you like Jigglypuff so much? I'd want him back if he got a new move-set, dont see that happening though
    I'm a Jiggles fanboy, mostly because of her SSB appearances. Sure, she's not too notable anymore, but she's been there since the N64 version so I feel she deserves to stay. I might think differently if she was introduced in Melee for some reason. She also represents the new fairy type, which is nice. I feel like at least one of her moves will change because of that.

    And yeah I agree about the Ike-Marth theory.
    Good.

    read something about it being VERY unlikely of Snake returning, I think it was the maker of MGS. Yeah Ice Climbers and ROB have a very small chance of returning as well.

    I also read something about there being about as much characters as in Brawl, which is sad. I really hoped there would be at least 5 more.
    I don't know about very small for any of the characters I listed. Small, sure, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised to see any of them back. I was somewhat surprised at Toon Link, I'll admit.

    Dunno about that rumor, it seems unlikely that the number wouldn't go up at least a few. For that to be true they'd have to scrap five characters, which seems unlikely to me. Even then, I'm sure there's at least two newcomers we don't know about yet, hopefully more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    Fire Emblem is more popular than ever with the success of Awakening; the series is growing, and so too should its roster representation in Smash. Ike was an incredibly popular character in Brawl. Everyone's reaction to losing Roy, despite 'em bein' a clone, was absurd disproportionate.

    Ike isn't leaving, nor being replaced.
    I suppose that makes sense, he's probably more popular than the other characters on my list save maybe Snake.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosquid View Post
    Why do you say that? If Sakurai's going to sack any characters, I feel like Ike is one of the most likely ones. I feel that it's weird that we know Marth is in the game but not him. If I remember correctly, Marth has always been a "secret" character, whereas Ike was default in Brawl. I feel like it would be weird to make Marth default alongside Ike, or to make Ike secret and Marth default. It's entirely possible, it's also entirely possible that unlockable characters simply aren't being hidden this time, but it still seems weird to me. Ike is also the most easily replaceable Brawl newcomer aside from maybe Red. It wouldn't make as much sense to do something like replace Wolf with Krystal, as Krystal was a viable candidate when Brawl was released. They wouldn't just replace him with her for no reason, I feel. However, Chrom, Lucina, and the Avatar are new characters that threaten to replace Ike. Olimar was in a similar situation with the Pikmin 3 playable characters, but not as much.
    What Splash said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MR View Post
    Ike
    Probably the most popular Fire Emblem character ever has everything from a BFS to Spikey hair, everything you need to be a popular Anime/Video Game character. But enough of the parody, Ike is an awesome character despite his cliché appearance. He was the new addition to the Fire Emblem Smash Family in Brawl and he wasn't even the main character in the most recent Fire Emblem game at the time! Here are the points going for him:

    1. Still Fresh. There isn't a Fire Emblem main character quite like Ike. He carries a 2 handed sword unlike the ones before him, Marth and Roy, which makes his playstyle unique and powerful.

    2. Still Popular. As I said before Ike is still pretty popular and unlike Roy, Awakening nodded in Ike's direction more than once. His DLC is arguably the hardest of any Fire Emblem level (though I can't say it because I still need to get it) and in another Awakening DLC he was mentioned as one characters favorite character (obviously someone developing the game likes him). But if that isn't enough there is a character in Awakening that is one of Ike's descendants:
    Kinda spoiler is not a story spoiler.
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    3. Still Relevant. Him getting in Brawl means that he was chosen over Micaiah who was the main character from the most recent game at the time, a female, and a tome user; three points which would have added more diversity to Smash. But instead Ike was chosen to represent the most recent Fire Emblem game and the console Fire Emblem games at the same time while still adding character diversity. As no new console Fire Emblem game has been made since, he still represents the last of the console Fire Emblem games.

    Points against him:

    1. Kinda Old. Not as old as Roy though.
    If you think about it.
    No Fire Emblem Character can replace Ike. There are no Fire Emblem characters like him.

    Contrary to popular belief, Ike did not replace Roy. Marth did. Ike simply filled the character void with a new moveset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosquid View Post
    I was somewhat surprised at Toon Link, I'll admit.
    i told you aaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    If that "clone" made it in, then y'all can guarantee every other clone at least has a fair shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosquid View Post
    I'm sure there's at least two newcomers we don't know about yet, hopefully more.
    Smash 4 isn't set to come out for almost another year; if delays come, definitely a year (or more). If they already spent all'a their newcomers, that'd be bad marketing. There'l be more, assuredly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MR View Post
    If you think about it.
    No Fire Emblem Character can replace Ike. There are no Fire Emblem characters like him.

    Contrary to popular belief, Ike did not replace Roy. Marth did. Ike simply filled the character void with a new moveset.
    Unless there's some really special plotshit in Ike's games about him that I'm unaware of (I doubt there is), I wouldn't say he's very unique. Popular, sure, but he seems like just your average swordsman. He's really strong, I give him that, but that's about it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosquid View Post
    Unless there's some really special plotshit in Ike's games about him that I'm unaware of (I doubt there is), I wouldn't say he's very unique. Popular, sure, but he seems like just your average swordsman. He's really strong, I give him that, but that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosquid View Post
    Unless there's some really special plotshit in Ike's games about him that I'm unaware of, I wouldn't say he's very unique.
    *facepalm*

    As MR's quote mentioned, Ike's personality and fighting style sets 'em apart from other important FE protagonists, which is exactly what Sakurai looks for in a character. His appearance as well, to an extent.

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    I don't have any sort of argument to back it up, but I'm just going to throw out the fact that "I like Ike" too. I want him to stay. :/



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