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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    > Implying Lucario's popularity is declining.

    ... Jiggles isn't popular. 'Sides amongst genwunners who remember that marker-wieldin' troll from the anime.

    My theory behind it all is simply hype. Gen 3 came out when an entire new generation of youngin's didn't yet know 'bout Pokemon. Plenty'a new blood. As a result, Gen 4 was the first new Pokemon game for all'a that new blood. The generation shift of youngin's introduced to the series happened during Gen 5, so Zoroark lacked the amount'a potential popularity Lucario had thrown at 'em.
    Everything loses popularity without anything keeping it growing. Simple truth. Why do you think Dewey lost the election in 1948? Why do you think companies keep advertizing their product? People have short memories.

    Lucario being in Smash immortalized his popularity. The decrease in popularity will be much slower. Suppose Zoroark was in Brawl instead of Lucario...

    Zoroark would be the more popular one if that was the case and we would be arguing about Zoroark staying in Smash because of his popularity and uniqueness.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeyLolita View Post
    And don't forget that Mewtwo = Newtwo
    That is true but it is still not the same.
    That's like saying Matter = Energy which it does, but both are completely different.
    Last edited by Mr. MR; 05-18-2013 at 03:39 PM.





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    Except, this is a video game, and it doesn't actually matter.

    If you vote for Mewtwo, you're voting for Newtwo pretty much.

    UNLESS you guys want us to specify?

    if so, then my vote would be

    Mewtwo / Awakened Form

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    Both may be equivalent but that does not mean they will play exactly like each other.

    Zelda does not play like Sheik but Zelda = Sheik





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    Lucario's popularity in Smash is relevant almost entirely to his popularity amongst Smash fans only. Lucario is still widely promoted by Game Freak. In BW2, he's one'a the male protagonist's main Pokes in that animated preview ya might've seen. As such, he's catchable as a Riolu early in the game.

    Lucario has regularly appeared in various Pokegames as more than just one'a the many catchable mosnters. In the original Mystery Dungeon, a Lucario is heralded as the best explorer evar. In Mystery Dungeon 2, Riolu is one'a the new playable starters/partners. In Ranger 2, Lucario is an important boss. In the anime, outside'a that one movie, Lucario and Riolu have appeared a shitton of times, includin' in the Gen 5 anime, with more relevance than just bein' random wild Pokes or some nub trainer's Poke.

    Lucario's popularity is so superior t' Zoroark's because Game Freak made it so, not Smash. When Lucario was revealed as one'a the first Gen 4 Pokes, long before it bein' a character in Smash was leaked, speculation of it bein' legendary and just conversation over it was astonishingly common. For Zoroark, there wasn't anywhere near as much during both it's reveal and it's movie debut. Lucario started off stronger; with better potential; and Ninty simply fueled the fire.

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    I see, he has been getting advertisement... But that also did not stop Pichu from getting removed. Last time I checked Pichu was also getting a lot of advertisement.

    But we still have to discuss if Mewtwo is coming back as his old self or his new self or both.





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    If Mewtwo returns, Newtwo will somehow be involved. Fact. i dunno how tho lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MR View Post
    Last time I checked Pichu was also getting a lot of advertisement.
    Uh... was he? Don't recall anythin' 'sides the Pichu Bros. and that one limited edition Gameboy Color.

    But 'ey, let's not compare Lucario to a clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    Uh... was he? Don't recall anythin' 'sides the Pichu Bros. and that one limited edition Gameboy Color.

    But 'ey, let's not compare Lucario to a clone.


    Anyway, shiny and spiky eared Pichu
    Mystery Dungeons (not that I played any of them)





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    Wouldn't call that a lot, but t'is true. Forgot 'bout those two events.

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    There is probably a lot more but hey I don't follow Pokémon media.





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    I don't know either, Newtwo could be included as simply a final Smash, or a transformation Which is why I'm kinda more inclined to just put "Mewtwo" and include newtwo in there.

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