Sakurai's been quoted saying "I love all my characters! :laughs:". So I think if he can avoid cutting, he will.... We'll soon see if Sakurai will change his mind in regards t' whether or not he wants to remove characters. ;_;
I've actually never heard that statement, but I suppose being cut from Brawl is a double edged sword. But, remember if Sakurai had it his way we would have four more clones in Brawl. Toon Zelda, Toon Shiek, Roy, and Doctor Mario.I disagree. Sakurai has implicitly stated he strived t' erase clones from Brawl. I can only imagine he'll try even harder to keep clones outta Smash 4. Doc won't return before a new character will both because of his history as a clone and the fact he's literally still Mario, even if he has a completely different moveset.
You can, it would just be stupid. I'm not expecting that though, heck, I'm not expecting Junior to begin with. I think ultimately, him and Doc are the most likely choices, but I don't know how likely a Mario character is. I agree with you that on merits alone, Junior could get in Smash, but I also think Toad has enough merits as well.Who would Jr. be a clone of, Bowser... ? Definitely not. Jr. obviously wouldn't be a heavy hitter, nor is he large and can breath fire. Ya definitely couldn't just paste Bowser's moveset onto his son and call that adequate. Sakurai definitely wouldn't do that.
Plus that's just such a random little rule to make for Sakurai to make for himself.Don't believe Sakurai ever stated there can only be one villain per series. Don't think he ever would neither considerin' the hero-villain ratio we currently have
Anyways, here's my vote:
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Now about Rosalia
1. She is THE representative of Super Mario Galaxy, a masterpiece series that will no doubt get huge rep in this Smash game.
2. She is female. Jigglypuff got in over Meowth for a reason and has stayed in the games for a long time.
3. She is a new character that has a backstory. Her character is the most fleshed out of any new Mario character or that of any main series Mario game. If any new Mario character got in it would be her.
Against Bowser Jr.
1. He did not get into Brawl, and he was not even considered (judging by the missing 8). He is not old enough to be acknowledged as a staple and not young enough to be fresh.
2. His role is not that big in the Mario franchise. He is an annoyance which does not constitute true villain material. He is not even Bowser's partner.
3. The Mario roster does not need another villain.
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I don't think Waluig is as close to getting in as you think
is not getting in:
Reason one: His existence was solely for Doulbes in Tennis and Double Dash as Wario's Partner. He has no purpose other than that.
Reason two: Too many Mario characters already. If we are going to get another one I hope it's not wasted on Waluigi.
Reason three: No Rep. He has no games. Wario has his own games but Waluigi does not.
Waluigi has absolutely nothing going for him.
And read my post above your to why I don't think Bowser Jr. is getting in.
Waluigi is dangerously close IMO. Him, Junior and Toad are the three "real" choices I could see Sakurai using IMO. Besides Doctor Mario.
Anyways since none of us can agree on what the Mario roster will look like, feel free to vote for the characters you think the mario franchise will have. This is a prediction roster, not an ideal roster, so it's what you think will happen, not what you want. Can't stress this enough. Include veterans in your vote as well. I would like a vote from all of you if possible. (Neo, Mr, Wii, and Splash)
And Neo, I was going to guess girl or gay. :P
That's fine, I'll give you this. Junior and Toad have so many more appearences than her, it's not even funny. Both even showed up in "her" games. I think you place too much on this series. It's just two installments of the Mario series.1. She is THE representative of Super Mario Galaxy, a masterpiece series that will no doubt get huge rep in this Smash game.
Being female has such little weight when Sakurai is creating a roster. Every female in Smash is extremely deserving right now, and if Sakurai was going to add a female just because of her genitals, then, why not someone like Dixie, Palutena, or Krystal?2. She is female. Jigglypuff got in over Meowth for a reason and has stayed in the games for a long time.
Can't comment much on this, but I don't think it's really relevent considering Game and Watch has literally no back story. It doesn't matter much in terms of inclusion.3. She is a new character that has a backstory. Her character is the most fleshed out of any new Mario character or that of any main series Mario game. If any new Mario character got in it would be her.
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To refute one, I gotta point out that not being in the "Missing 8" doesn't mean he wasn't considered. And for two, how is Rosalina more important than Bowser Jr.? Jr.'s appeared in far more games then she has. 3 doesn't mean much either, I could say that "the Mario roster doesn't need another blonde woman in a dress".
And how is Jr. not Bowser's partner? I'm pretty sure he counts as Bowser's partner in multiple games.
But imma straight.
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I just can't see the dangerously close.
I just can't.
People only want him in because he completes an already complete circle.
Waluigi's existence is solely for sports games so Wario can have a partner.
Why is Rosalina better than BJ... SMG>SMS
She represents a whole series and is a new character.
BJ is not old enough and young enough to give him any leverage.
Oh and squid is MetrosexualI don't think Bowser J has been Bowser's partner in crime. More like he does what he wants and Bowser just sleeps on the couch like a normal father.
I think that Ghirahim, Bowser Jr., Shulk, Little Mac, and Chrom have the biggest chance. I think K. Rool, Ridley, Palutena, Krystal, and Waluigi are next in line in terms of chance of getting in.
I'm likely forgetting someone...
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Oh, well, I didn't know x.x
I'm gay, so, yeah. I just assumed wrongly I suppose.
And right now, focus on the Mario franchise. Once we pass this franchise, we will move on to Wario and Yoshi. We're gonna just put them together because they're pretty simple.
I don't even like Waluigi, but you have to give him credit like every other character. Peopl want him in because they like him/what he may bring to Smash.People only want him in because he completes an already complete circle.