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    And on that note, I'd imagine Rosalina will simply appear as an assist trophy/story mode cameo/item-somethin'-whatever.

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    Mario
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    Bowser
    Bowser Jr.

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    I just finished reading your big post so let me comment

    Then tally the votes





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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    That point 'bout Weegee 'n Diddy was meant t' further insinuate that whether or not Jr. is overshadowed by his father is irrelevant. Didn't mean 'em literally. Just (crude) examples.

    Why exactly is your opinion of Jr. as a villain so negative? Obviously his evil agenda is solely 'cause his father is the ol' King of Koopas, but why does this make him completely irrelevant? His relevance to certain Mario games is quite notable. For the entirety of Sunshine, Jr. is constantly interfering with Mario's attempts to save Peach (whom he is responsible for kidnapping in the first place).

    You do have a point with that last sentence, however... Bowser Sr. did absolutely ****-all in Sunshine. Meanwhile, Jr. polluted an entire island, stole every last shine sprite, and then even the Princess. On his own. Bowser could've never appeared in the game and his son could've easily been the final boss on his own. Jr. was literally the main villain of Sunshine, doing all of the work. This alone refutes your second point against Jr.

    Across both Galaxy games, Jr. is trusted with guarding many Grand Stars. I don't believe any of Bowser's other underlings, ever, are given such important duties multiple times. Though he's by no means the main villain in Galaxy 1/2 as he was in Sunshine, this cements the fact Jr. is still not only a relevant character, but a reoccurring one. Obviously Rosalina is a newer character, but considerin' Jr. makes appearance in both her games, to say she is more relevant in terms of recent games is hogwash. Hell, Jr. made a more recent appearance than her, as he shows face in Sticker Star.

    Also note, how many appearances has Rosalina made in major games? One; I don't believe her pointless cameo in 2 at all counts, after all. She was entirely irrelevant to Galaxy 2.

    For the sake of mentioning, I don't believe points 1 and 3 against Jr. have any merit what-so-ever. We can't know who Sakurai was considerin' and who he wasn't. Perhaps the over-saturation of Mario and Mario-related characters in Brawl prevented him from even discussin' if a Mario character would be added, so point 1 is moot. Point 3 isn't a deterrent to Jr. joinin' 'cause sure, the Mario franchise don't need another villain... but who said characters join Brawl simply 'cause they're deemed as bein' mandatory? Do ya really think someone said "ROB needs to be in Smash Bros.!" with unparalleled conviction? And what if Sakurai actually does believe Jr. really deserves the roster spot? We can't know what the executives are thinkin'.
    You make J seem more like a henchman and underling, which he basically is. It does not matter how many games J was in it will only slightly increase the odds. Being on the villain side of those games only slightly increase the odds. How many mini bosses have appeared throughout video games? How many are noteworthy? I just don't see BJ as a Mario staple. He has as much chance to get in as Iron Knuckle. That's how I see it.

    And Rosalina set the stage which became the best 3D Mario Series. It was only possible through her which mean her influence was literally everywhere in SMG2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    Does not need =/= will not get.
    Aye Pichu and Doc

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    also ratchet does overshadow clank lawl
    There is a difference between overshadowing and being more popular.

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    ... So much as comparin' Zelda's importance to The Legend of Zelda with Rosalina's relevance in a single Mario game is utter blasphemy, MR.
    Nah
    I was just comparing Smash Potential because it really doesn't matter if you staple a masterpiece
    Which it was Super Mario World that basically immortalized Yoshi and sent him straight to Smash even if it was last gen.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MR View Post
    I just don't see BJ as a Mario staple.
    But he is at this point. He's made minor appearances in nigh-every Mario game since his inception, was very literally the main villain of one game, and has made slightly notable appearances in a few other games since (namely referring to his small roles in SMG1/2). He's obviously not in the same league as the four Mario characters already in Smash, but nor are any other potential characters that could come from the Mario series. Indeed, my opinion is that he's the most notable Mario character not yet in Smash, even over Rosalina's (hollow, recent times-related) relevance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MR View Post
    He has as much chance to get in as Iron Knuckle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    But he is at this point. He's made minor appearances in nigh-every Mario game since his inception, was very literally the main villain of one game, and has made slightly notable appearances in a few other games since (namely referring to his small roles in SMG1/2). He's obviously not in the same league as the four Mario characters already in Smash, but nor are any other potential characters that could come from the Mario series. Indeed, my opinion is that he's the most notable Mario character not yet in Smash, even over Rosalina's (hollow, recent times-related) relevance.
    I will still fall back on the Yoshi point.
    Yoshi got in Smash because of Super Mario World which was last gen at the time.
    Now we have a revolutionary new Mario game which places right next to the Legendary SMW...

    I think we will see another Yoshi

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    You better believe it

    Also, I am glad we can agree on one thing...
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    Rosalina ain't exactly as popular as Yoshi was however, now was she? Either way, it seems we're at the point we must agree t' disagree. A differing of opinions indeed.

    gewd use of meme is gewd

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    I guess it's tally time

    Original 4 are definitely staying

    1 vote for BJ
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    How's the votin' gonna work? Majority, a different percentage, somethin' else?

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    IDK

    But a 25% say Bowser Jr.
    And a 25% say Rosalina


    Also SMS was not as great nor on the same plain as SM64 or SMG
    Last edited by Mr. MR; 05-09-2013 at 02:26 AM.





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