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    Quote Originally Posted by En4Neo
    You guys aren't getting the point here. It's the point of Nintendo promising to keep their game the same for the sake of nostalgia, but they're not even doing that. It just pisses me off that they allow things to change yet don't believe in online play.
    The game, other than the passwords, is the same.

    Has any other game had changes to it? No. It isn't even a change, really. If anything, it's like having the game brand new right out of the box. If you want the level codes, beat the damn levels.

    You're freaking out over nothing.
    "Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild ideas, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was... I forget. But the point is... well, I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by En4Neo
    You guys aren't getting the point here. It's the point of Nintendo promising to keep their game the same for the sake of nostalgia, but they're not even doing that. It just pisses me off that they allow things to change yet don't believe in online play.
    I suppose if you wanted the game to be identical in every way, then you'd be disappointed that they recoded the password system.

    Taking a more philosophical approach, you'll see that this step was necessary to put the game in the same "new" state as when it was first released.

    If you download Mario 64 for the VC, are you pissed off that you can't start off with 120 stars, which you got on the original N64 cartridge? If not, why not?

    This is the same situation with Kid Icarus. Nintendo is giving you the games as they were intended to be played: from beginning to end.

    Nintendo had to do work in order to change the password system, so you can be sure that it was a considered decision.

    I could see if they cut a bunch of levels out of a game, but the mechanics of Kid Icarus are identical to the original.

    For me it actually recreates the original playing experience better this way. I'm going through the levels one by one and writing down passwords...just like I did 20 years ago...

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    Yes, that is exactly the reason..that is logical, people, this thread didn't even have to exist, but unfortunately there are lots of dumb, cheater people in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axtlar
    Well why would you want to spend 5 dollars on a game and then cheat your way to the end with the passwords and never play it again? that's dumb, my friend, that's why they changed the passwords, duh!
    I wouldn't spend 5 dollars on a game just to cheat my way though, I'd spend 5 dollars on it to have everything I loved about it still in tact. Unfortunatley we aren't getting that, it just makes me mad they change things yet they don't care about adding things that actually matter such as online. Sorry if you're too dense to get what I'm talking about.

    Also your what you're saying didn't make much sense. You just said yourself that there will be a new password system. You can still cheat your way through the game with the new password system just like you could with the old system, so I'm not seeing your point on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiredgoonz
    I suppose if you wanted the game to be identical in every way, then you'd be disappointed that they recoded the password system.

    Taking a more philosophical approach, you'll see that this step was necessary to put the game in the same "new" state as when it was first released.

    If you download Mario 64 for the VC, are you pissed off that you can't start off with 120 stars, which you got on the original N64 cartridge? If not, why not?

    This is the same situation with Kid Icarus. Nintendo is giving you the games as they were intended to be played: from beginning to end.

    Nintendo had to do work in order to change the password system, so you can be sure that it was a considered decision.

    I could see if they cut a bunch of levels out of a game, but the mechanics of Kid Icarus are identical to the original.

    For me it actually recreates the original playing experience better this way. I'm going through the levels one by one and writing down passwords...just like I did 20 years ago...
    I'm not seeing why the password system even changed if people can still easily access the new passwords on some ranking site if they'd like. Also what loser would have remembered the passwords seeing as most people haven't played in years.

    I'm not super mad about it if you think I am, just a little annoyed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En4Neo
    I wouldn't spend 5 dollars on a game just to cheat my way though, I'd spend 5 dollars on it to have everything I loved about it still in tact. Unfortunatley we aren't getting that, it just makes me mad they change things yet they don't care about adding things that actually matter such as online. Sorry if you're too dense to get what I'm talking about.

    Also your what you're saying didn't make much sense. You just said yourself that there will be a new password system. You can still cheat your way through the game with the new password system just like you could with the old system, so I'm not seeing your point on that.
    what I meant was that why would you want the old passwords? to cheat your way through without getting them yourself firsthand? in what way does it affect you or the game to have the passwords changed? it's the same game, everything is the same, even the password feature; the fact that they changed the actual passwords for each level doesn't mean that you can't enjoy the game any more or less than before. now again with my point: why are you whining about the passwords being changed? because you want to cheat your way to the end with the old passwords? I still don't see how it affects the game aside from that.

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    The difference here is that until someone plays through the game, writing down the passwords, there is no way to cheat.

    Granted, in the internet age, the new passwords will spread more quickly than they did in the past

    Even this is better than using the old passwords, as the old system had been broken by analyzing the ROM code for the game.

    You could create a password for any level, with any items and any in-game stats you wanted...including passwords that "broke" the game in such a way that you could have more of items than are allowed during regular play...

    This won't happen with the new password system until/unless someone breaks down the new code the way they did with the old code.

    Even the "cheating" using someone else's password is limited by the skill of the player who shares his password...

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    Quote Originally Posted by En4Neo
    Sorry if you're too dense to get what I'm talking about.
    Dude, we all "get" what you're talking about.

    We're just saying to quit being such a bitch about it.
    "Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild ideas, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was... I forget. But the point is... well, I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowTRobot
    Dude, we all "get" what you're talking about.

    We're just saying to quit being such a bitch about it.
    Actually Axtlar still hasn't exactly proved he knows what I'm talking about. I really don't care about the new password changes, however I am pissed at Nintendo's vc version of MK64.

    So I proved my point, you guys don't have to get so offended whenever something bad is said about Nintendo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En4Neo
    So I proved my point, you guys don't have to get so offended whenever something bad is said about Nintendo.
    I'm not offended about anything. You're obviously the one who is offended by Nintendo's choice to unleash an atomic bomb on your life by choosing to reset the password system.

    What's next? Changing the number of links on the Chain Chomp?
    "Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild ideas, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was... I forget. But the point is... well, I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car?"

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