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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyman2
    How come rare wont let it be released? and also why should ninty need there permission anymore? ninty doesnt have any rights to the game at all? im actually asking i have no idea how the legal crap of the gaming industry works.
    Right, I know it's a bit confusing so here's the situation: back in the day Rare worked as a "second-party developer" for Nintendo, meaning they were an independent company and owned the rights to their own franchises (Banjo-Kazooie, Perfect Dark, etc.) but exclusively released them for Nintendo consoles (Nintendo often like to use second-party developers- another famous one is HAL Laboratory, who are behind the Kirby, Earthbound and Super Smash Bros. series). A few years ago Rare got bought out and become part of Microsoft. This means that Rare can no longer make their games available on VC without permission from Microsoft (Rare have stated they are willing if they can). This does not apply to Nintendo franchise games which were "outsourced" by Rare, such as Star Fox Adventures or the Donkey Kong series. In these cases, Nintendo still owns the rights and they can appear on the VC. Goldeneye is a special case because it was based on a film, and hence requires permission from whoever owns the rights to the James Bond franchise.

    So basically, Rare's games might appear on VC, but don't hold your breath.



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    i most certainly do! andothers too have voiced that they care. thank you very much mr. napal. but im still alittle confused. so if the james bond movie dudes say its ok for nintendo to release it as a vc its cool? how come microsoft can say ninty cant use the rights they already own? i dont get, if they already had the rights to create the game for the n64 system, how come they cant just copy the game onto vc? its not a new game, and would make sence to me that that means no new rights needing to be had. if they've already developed this exact game, how come they cant copy it to VC's. cuz techniqually its not really making the game for the wii, its still an n64 system. since this is such a new concept, im wondering if there is actually legal battles going on bout this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyman2
    i most certainly do! andothers too have voiced that they care. thank you very much mr. napal. but im still alittle confused. so if the james bond movie dudes say its ok for nintendo to release it as a vc its cool?
    Honestly, I don't know what the legal situation is with Goldeneye.

    how come microsoft can say ninty cant use the rights they already own? i dont get, if they already had the rights to create the game for the n64 system, how come they cant just copy the game onto vc? its not a new game, and would make sence to me that that means no new rights needing to be had. if they've already developed this exact game, how come they cant copy it to VC's. cuz techniqually its not really making the game for the wii, its still an n64 system. since this is such a new concept, im wondering if there is actually legal battles going on bout this.
    No, Rare owned the rights to those games, but now Rare belongs to Microsoft., so now I believe Rare needs Microsoft's permission to release their old games onto VC. I know it sucks, it's just the way business works.



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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyman2
    How about Goldeneye? Its like the staple game. Thats a damn must have if you own an n64. and my sister real wants pokemon stadium, me included i admit. for the mini games of course

    Rare title, so it may not happen, BUT if it does I want online play added!!!
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    Hmmm

    Mario RPG has to be one of the best games I have ever played for ANY system and I liked Paper Mario for N64 (not heard it mentioned) I would'nt mind it on the VC but I don't know what determines what they put on the VC. It seems like theres not many if any 3rd party games on there, If you remember Nintendo had a BIG ordeal back in the day with TENGEN selling games that were remakes to screw nintendo over. Since then it seems like Nintendo is very weary about 3rd parties (I don't blame them)

    I only seen one Turbo Graffix 16 in my life and it was when I was in elementary school, Some middle aged guy was playin it on his porch and I went up to take a look. (im 25 now) And never seen them in stores but the graphics were pretty good for the time, It seemed like a cross between a NES and a Sega Genesis and the only game I saw on there was Bonk. I was surprised to find out the Nintendo made that system (or had some part in it)
    I first saw Paper Mario for 64 in a pawn shop and the guy there said if I bought 2 games he'd give me that one for free cause he said he could'nt get rid of it. It ended up being the best one out of the 3! (other 2 were Hot Wheels and Pilotwings) got them all for 7.00!

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    alright thanks again napalmbrain. samXcor, online goldeneye would be sweet haha. Come on nintendo. if your gonna make our christmas surprise anything, make it that!

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