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    I cant read through this, it's too long

    I'll have you know I was gentle… like a cool sea breeze… *cackles*
    I'LL have you know I've read said savaging!!! What a top thing the internet is ha ha

    Jaz Rignall is still considered a legend among many journos
    As I remember he was a legend amongst barbers - that was a mullet of some note!!! Happy days...

    (I'm 28 in barely 2 weeks… feel about 48 sometimes)
    Ahem - I've got 7 years on you sonny (oo could you pass the deep heat please! It's the damp you know. *No not that type of damp! *)

    But getting people to read is difficult full stop, these days, so the market is caught in a Catch 22. While people like me, who have to try and make a living off our words, struggle to keep up through a batch of confusing audience messages. It's enough to drive an insane man, sane
    This is a real bug bear of mine and I'm glad you brought it up; and forums are notorious for it especially; and that's not only the examples you've given but there seems to be a need to have 100million one word replies with very little or no coherence when attempting to contribute to what essentially could be a decent discussion bringing in all age groups and pov's. The thread you are ostensively referring to is a prime example. Read and ye shall learn.

    Now I am not pointing the finger at any institution or society regarding the sometimes apparent low levels of grammar or structure on display: across the internet as a whole: but I do think that with the advent of the video culture that we have now - gamers et al, have come to expect reviews to be shown in rich streaming media - no read-y, just watch-y!! Hence the decline of the wordy review and articles. Why buy a mag when Gamespot are reviewing it in glorious grainy video (I too am guilty of this sin..and I love it! )

    Of course this is a generalisation but with the advent of tv on your mobile and PMP's coming down in price then the written word needs to compete with on-demand 'pap' tv! Content with no substance whatsoever but at-cha 24/7 (I'm no moral crusader and this ain't the high moral ground but I did ditch my tv completely when I moved into my current home because I was so pissed off with paying for a tv licence and watching constantly repeated dirge! - Hell at least a magazine page changes when you turn it over)

    I'm with you - if people won't read for free then paying to read may not happen either. Although if I pay for something I would at least want to look at more than the pictures [(C)The Porn Industry - Look but don't read]

    With you as a paid journo - what's the solution? How do you as an industry (ableit not yet a cottage one!) evolve to stay up there....? The written word can't die, can it ??[(C)The Devil's Advocate Franchise]
    Will E-Ink effect a change..? - downloadable content in written form....hmmm

    [please note that any speling mistokes also gramer errors are pureley fictional ]

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    Just had to reply to this:
    Lmao, I couldn’t divulge in written or recordable form (at least not yet ), who knows who's listening...
    C'mon just write it down - there appears to be only you and I actually reading this thread....
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    Helllooooooooooooooooooooooo?????????

    Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Animal Crossing Wii, and Mario Party 8 are not on this list? YOU ARE S-T-U-P-I-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nfanboy
    Helllooooooooooooooooooooooo?????????

    Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Animal Crossing Wii, and Mario Party 8 are not on this list? YOU ARE S-T-U-P-I-D
    *Clapping Slowly* - and I re-quote:

    but there seems to be a need to have 100million one word replies with very little or no coherence when attempting to contribute to what essentially could be a decent discussion bringing in all age groups and pov's

    [I may get flamed here because there is more than one word but syllables there are not]
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    Just about to reply, Rolex - just wanted to deal with something first (oh, and dont worry about being bald and toothless, happens to us all - would you believe the barber uncovered two WHITE hairs from my head today? Not grey, not silver, but WHITE. I was shocked, I tells ya).

    But speaking about people not reading...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nfanboy
    Helllooooooooooooooooooooooo?????????

    Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Animal Crossing Wii, and Mario Party 8 are not on this list? YOU ARE S-T-U-P-I-D
    Hoo boy... I hope you realise the egg you have on your face right now for clearly not getting the point of the feature. I'm not sure what's worse - that you didn't read it or that you read it and had no clear reading comprehension.

    Thanks anyway.

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    If you're a betting man - I would have a dollar on "and our survey said: Reads only the bold titles...."

    and I reiterate:
    C'mon just write it down - there appears to be only you and I actually reading this thread....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolex
    If you're a betting man - I would have a dollar on "and our survey said: Reads only the bold titles...."
    Likely. This made baby Jesus cry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolex
    I'LL have you know I've read said savaging!!! What a top thing the internet is ha ha
    Oh no… nooooo!

    (I actually didn’t realise it got published in the last few days, I wrote it a few weeks back and nearly forgotten what I said…)

    As I remember he was a legend amongst barbers - that was a mullet of some note!!! Happy days...
    His hair alone was the stuff dreams were made of. DREAMS!

    Ahem - I've got 7 years on you sonny (oo could you pass the deep heat please! It's the damp you know. *No not that type of damp! *)
    Oooer But 7 years? Much respect to you sir – not everyone sticks out gaming (much of my family who helped get me into it have nearly abandoned it altogether, if not for their kids. Kinda makes me sad).

    This is a real bug bear of mine and I'm glad you brought it up; and forums are notorious for it especially; and that's not only the examples you've given but there seems to be a need to have 100million one word replies with very little or no coherence when attempting to contribute to what essentially could be a decent discussion bringing in all age groups and pov's. The thread you are ostensively referring to is a prime example. Read and ye shall learn.
    Absolutely. I actually went into a minor rant about this today with a few friends. Reading isn’t the done thing in this age of high level visual entertainment; hell, I knew plenty people complaining they had to read the text in Twilight Princess and it put them off! One of the greatest games created in our fair medium, and some text put people off. I could almost hear Eiji Aonuma and Shigeru Miyamoto cry bitter, bitter tears.

    Now I am not pointing the finger at any institution or society regarding the sometimes apparent low levels of grammar or structure on display: across the internet as a whole: but I do think that with the advent of the video culture that we have now - gamers et al, have come to expect reviews to be shown in rich streaming media - no read-y, just watch-y!! Hence the decline of the wordy review and articles. Why buy a mag when Gamespot are reviewing it in glorious grainy video (I too am guilty of this sin..and I love it! )
    Aye, despite the problems created by its culture, I enjoy the video age myself. Games Domain was pretty close to doing video reviews before the site went to Yahoo and I was really looking forward to doing them. At the same time, a) I prefer to be behind the camera than in front of it (I've done mainstream TV games reviews before and I looked like a deer before AND after the headlights) and b) I love writing too much to not focus on it anyway. But when people aren’t reading, then you do start to wonder…

    Of course this is a generalisation but with the advent of tv on your mobile and PMP's coming down in price then the written word needs to compete with on-demand 'pap' tv! Content with no substance whatsoever but at-cha 24/7 (I'm no moral crusader and this ain't the high moral ground but I did ditch my tv completely when I moved into my current home because I was so pissed off with paying for a tv licence and watching constantly repeated dirge! - Hell at least a magazine page changes when you turn it over)

    I'm with you - if people won't read for free then paying to read may not happen either. Although if I pay for something I would at least want to look at more than the pictures [(C)The Porn Industry - Look but don't read]
    Maybe we should all follow the porn model in terms of publishing… hmmm… now this is giving me ideas. Naked games reviews, anyone? (Not of me, obviously).

    With you as a paid journo - what's the solution? How do you as an industry (ableit not yet a cottage one!) evolve to stay up there....? The written word can't die, can it ??[(C)The Devil's Advocate Franchise]
    Will E-Ink effect a change..? - downloadable content in written form....hmmm
    I think there'll always be paper based mediums, although… it's needing a revolution to restart itself. I love mags and books and newspapers, but I'm a child of the 70s and so that's only to be a given. The problem with paper is it's not cheap, and if anything, it needs to be a budget medium per se. Of course, it's competing with a medium that's essentially 'free', so instead there has to be capitalisation on other advantages; portability, physicality and the fact multiple pages can be seen at one time in physical space without compromise. How to take full advantage of these is the question. If print were to eventually be phased out, I honestly believe it would only create a backlash from its absence and we'd get the equivalent of an 'underground' effect. Which is maybe what's needed.


    C'mon just write it down - there appears to be only you and I actually reading this thread....
    Good point

    This may be topically true, but if you can find my Superman review then who knows who's reading (erm, so to speak) this right now…

    … maybe one day, though

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