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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovieto
    1: yes, it fixes the solder or whatever which was the reason many 360s broke down
    2: not anymore, they fixed the soldering problem which was the main reason, and they fixed most other reasons
    3: idk
    Ah, thanks again, Sov. ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    ouch, not a good sign. With used 360's You dont know how many times they baked their 360. Actually, you gotta be careful because once the problems start, its usually a downhill slide. Make sure it is in a cool location, put a fan on it if you have to, and if you are gettind dvd reading errors, lets hope that your dvd rom isnt dying.
    yeah, it's in a good cool location.

    went to the gamestop where i bought it yesterday, and the guy behind the counter was like, "4 disc read errors in 8 days?! That's it?! Oh yeah man, that's normal. You should be fine."

    He did recommend spraying the disc tray, and some of the inside of the xbox with canned air. So i'm gonna give that a try.

    On a positive note though, he said on used game consoles, you can take it back to them and swap it out for another one within 30 days. so i'm gonna run this one for another few weeks and if it doesn't perform better, i'll just trade it in, and if that one doesn't work, reckon i can trade that one in too after a 30 day trial period.

    not too bad of a situation really as long as i can work out the kinks.

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    actually, the "towell" method has been around for a while now with very limited success.

    if your 360 dies out of warranty, head over to:-
    http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php

    read up on the "x-clamp" replacement fix....much better than "cooking" your console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout

    =| this 3 red lights only happens with the 2005 models - and very rarely with the later versions

    Problem was caused by incorrect soldering along the GPU (graphical processing unit or graphics card ... which is second to none, except ATI 1800GT/XT *AHHH*).

    My advice if you want to avoid this problem:

    Keep all 360s (2005 models or not) well ventilated and store upright (trust me... upright will keep the heat absorption from the surface underneath to a minimal! - reducing the heat of the console) - this goes with any electronical equipment! so why not the 360?

    only buy new Xbox consoles (as this, 3 red light, problem can be temp. fixed and may work for a while but will not work when your warranty runs out - lol)

    If your 360 sounds more like a rocket taking off, than usual i suggest taking a 30 min break this should cool down the circuits and stop the soldering from breaking/melting.


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    And CD read errors can sometimes be fixed using a special CD with bushes on. this will remove dirt from the lense.

    avoid this problem by: NOT SMOKING IN THE SAME ROOM AS YOUR 360! or other dust/smoke causing activities e.g. spraying aerosol canisters.


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    if it is totally broken take it back to the shop/store you got it from if it's within 28days - 1 month or warranty it! - lol
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    Haha that gave me a good laugh.


    Quote Originally Posted by the_flood502
    Keep all 360s (2005 models or not) well ventilated and store upright (trust me... upright will keep the heat absorption from the surface underneath to a minimal! - reducing the heat of the console) - this goes with any electronical equipment! so why not the 360?
    I wouldn't recommend placing it vertical. It my reduce the heat absorbed, but it cuts off one of the vents. When it is horizontal, none of the vents are blocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_flood502
    =| this 3 red lights only happens with the 2005 models - and very rarely with the later versions
    really?

    what about all of the 2006 360's which are still getting 3 RLOD?

    also there are a few elites now experiencing the problem.

    the issue is, M$ rushed the 360 out and still fails to see there is
    an inherant design flaw regarding the BGA type solders used on the
    CPU and GPU, this coupled with the stupid idea of only using fixing
    points at the corners of the motherboard, leads to excessive flexing
    when the unit is warm.

    many have tried different methods of fixing the 360, from "erasers" cut
    down to 4mm stuck on the back of the memory chips (this was a
    brasilian method apparently), people have unhooked the cooling fans and
    let the console run for a couple of minutes to "re-flow" the solder, some
    have put the ****ing things in the oven....

    as mentioned, if in warranty send the bloody thing back.

    if out of warranty, and you don't mind messing about with a "bricked" console
    have a look at the x-clamp replacement tutorials over on xbox-scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FR3344LL
    really?

    what about all of the 2006 360's which are still getting 3 RLOD?


    =| that's why i said rarely. It's mainly caused by the soldering issue... but it can also be caused by keeping the console in an unventilated area

    THIS GOES WITHOUT SAYING WITH ANY ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT!!!

    i really don't understand how many people have said they keep it in a cupboard or underneath their dvd players and then complain about an over heat failure! it's their own fault!!! that and Microsoft for not soldering it right in the 1st place...

    ( i still love you Microsoft...)

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    Interesting fact:

    My friend refuses to buy an Xbox 360 because he hates Microsoft... stupid Mac users... - the Mac part of Apple is going out of business in 2008 if they can't sell enough computers, anyways...

    i really can't understand why...

    Windows is the best selling operating system and has the latest hardware and the most developers... and yet apparently... (according to Mac users) it's crap?!
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    =| this 3 red lights only happens with the 2005 models - and very rarely with the later versions
    it's the way you put the opening sentence...it ONLY happens on the
    2005 models...but in the next breath, it also happens on later consoles.

    tbh, i don't think the 3 RLOD discriminates between ages of consoles.

    a friend at work has a launch console, always uses it, has it in the
    horizontal position on top of a VCR (which incidently gets quite warm)
    and he's had no trouble with it..(you watch it f*** up now!!).

    yet another friend had a late 2006 model, hardly used it and went tits
    up after 3 months.

    one of the reasons for getting rid of mine was the fact that it was coming
    up to the end of the warranty period, and i didn't really want the hassle
    of having to get it repaired if it went awol.

    i'll wait until sometime next year when the elite is readily avaliable and
    hopefully, a few hardware fixes will be in place, they'll use a quieter
    dvd drive (which is right pain in the arse) and hopefully, the 65micron
    chip will be readily available for cooler running.
    Ste

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    Quote Originally Posted by FR3344LL
    it's the way you put the opening sentence...it ONLY happens on the
    2005 models...but in the next breath, it also happens on later consoles.
    =| oops... that 'only' was supposed to be in italics suggesting that i'm being sarcastic... sorry lol

    Only (that's what people are saying) but it does happen rarely in the later models

    sorted ^^ (Y)
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