Iwata: Wii Is Not Next Gen

Dav_4550 · 07-07-2006, 11:10 PM

I agree with the "new gen" label since they (nintendo) are going for something entirely...well, new. They are moving over into a niche of their own.

Imagine three cars traveling down a freeway in the same lane, no one is really going to get anywhere since they are riding each others butts...

but if a car (nintendo) were to move into another lane, even if it led somewhere else (innovation), they would be able to pull out in front of the other cars (competition).

Maybe it is a hard analogy to follow, but I kind of like it...and I made it up on the spot so forgive me if it's a little weak.

btw...I'm 19 and going to college in the fall, and I happen to enjoy all ratings of games: E,T,M. People shouldn't feel like they have to play an M game in order to be mature. Let the rest of the gamers follow one another...the Wii is for individuals.

linkzeldagame · 07-08-2006, 01:16 AM

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Nintendo has the most creative game designers on the planet & I cannot say enough good things about the direction they are going to take the gaming indsustry in.

Especially with Shigeru Miyamoto leading the team. He (according to many nintendo magazines and wikipedia sites etc) created the Mario, Donkey Kong, and Zelda franchise starting from the NES generation.

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INclusion type (where you call for newbies and never-before-seen-people-playing-videogames + a couple of interested hardcore, graphics-driven ol' gamers) and the more "traditional" (mature) division, for the people who already play and want the same ol' thing all revamped with great/innovative/"charismatic"/hypnotic-what-else-you-may-call-it controls.

For the inclusive or newbie gamers, Nintendo often makes a totally new game based on a concept or idea like Mario party or Mario 64. Despite the repetitive nature of these Mario games, they always have some thing completely new to offer that was never seen or dimly thought of in the older games.
For the mature audience, isn't that what often happens with games like pokemon and *coughs* mario party?

motherbrainrulez · 07-08-2006, 06:44 AM

wii is not next gen whatever comes after it will be next gen

Lachadine · 07-08-2006, 10:57 PM

the wii isnt next-gen for its graphics. its next-gen for inovation!
nintendos changing the way we play games completely while microsoft, and sony are almost doing nothing to inovate. If changing gamming completely isnt next-gen, i dont know what is.

Dav_4550 · 07-09-2006, 12:06 AM

That's true, but unfortunately many feel that the term next gen has to do with the latest graphics and processing hardware, which is unfortunate.

linkzeldagame · 07-09-2006, 03:02 AM

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many feel that the term next gen has to do with the latest graphics and processing hardware

I agree Dav_4550, as it is the approach of many gamers who are interested in buying PS3 and XBOX 360.

On a side note I went to EB in Sydney and was looking for a cheap price for GC controllers as I needed two controllers for my SSBM game and came across a promotional ad for PS3. A group of teenagers had a look at it and were interested in finding out more about the PS3 and I said to them that it cost something like 1 grand for the console. Their reaction was - i dont think ill ever get it coz it'll be way too much for me to afford!

Dav_4550 · 07-09-2006, 05:53 PM

yeah, the PS3 will be alienating a large portion of gamers, who even if they wanted a PS3, they wouldn't be able to afford it. If third party support jumps to Nintendo because of its easily accessable price, Sony will have little to offer its customers and it will be doomed for this era of the "console wars"

Lachadine · 07-09-2006, 08:33 PM

i agree, once everyone sees the price of the ps3 they will be like

!!!
also i noticed that the percentage of money that the ps2 has dropped today would make the ps3 as much as the wii if it dropped the same way and this is after about 6 years!

Dav_4550 · 07-09-2006, 09:47 PM

yeah, I bought my PS2 originally for 250.00 USD when it came out ( a special deal at toys r us) well the PS2 is now what $150.00? That means that the price dropped 150.00 (because I believe 300.00 was the average price at launch).
Even if the 500.00 drops half the price (which I don't think it will) it will be the same price as the Wii. It might drop to 300 dollars but I think that might be as cheap as they get. Just speculation though

saturnine · 07-10-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CadaveR (Ivo)

Of course, we could play Pacman for ever. And EVER.

I couldn't

ssbb_lover · 07-10-2006, 02:13 PM

Lol, me neither.

martini178 · 07-19-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DRMARIO

iwata is very right, all you saying its next generation, youre wrong, cos liek he said ,it isnt an upgrade to the others. although, it is very high techm, and is coming into this new era of technology, if thats what you mean.
the wii is greta, and i see iwatas point, but all the people out there who are too engrossed in the ps3 and xbox, are too stubborn to even TRY and understand

i don't know why everyone is saying the wii isnt next gen i believe that to be next gen you either have to be more advanced then your last system and more inovative which the wii, xbox360, and the ps3 all are to me this just doesnt make alot of sense why or why not they are next gen systems....
oh yea it also matters when the system is released <--- that is the main factor

_-Darkfear-_ · 07-20-2006, 02:12 AM

I agree.
Wii is next gen all the way. It's not graphical prowess that matters it's the Revolutionary (wink wink) idea that makes this system so awesome!

...Plus Nintendo kicks a$$

SuppaRoy · 07-20-2006, 02:16 AM

Hell people sayin Xbox 360 is Next generation is just stupid. Its just better graphics and more power and wut not. The PS3 i can hand it to them they got ALOT of techincal stuff cramed in the system im guessin they got next generation but the Wii is the defenition of Next gen. Changin the way of gamin completely turnin it upside down.

Homicidal_Gamer · 07-21-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by imahawki

Sounds like semantics. In fact, the Nintendo is the next gen and 360/PS3 are current gen with better graphics.

Dude, I feel the same way there!

linkzeldagame · 07-22-2006, 02:18 AM

What does "next gen" exactly mean? Does it mean an updated generation of game consoles that are faster, better and more complicated than the older versions of game consoles? Eg Next Gen: PS3, XBOX 360, GC. Old Gen: PS2, XBOX, N64.

Or does it mean a new generation of game consoles? A fresh look in game consoles in the way they handle operations coming from the games and the console hardware? Eg: NES, N64, Wii.

Consider this: combine the two meanings of new and next gen with the history of nintendo, look at the consoles made since the birth of the NES.
New Generation:
Consoles:
NES, N64, Wii
Handhelds:
GnW, GB, DS

Next Generation:
Consoles:
SNES, GC.
Handhelds:
GBC, GBA.

I was thinking about the actual meaning of the word 'next gen'. Wii can say that children are the next gen of their parents. Children are new compared to their parents and are healthier, stronger and fitter than their parents. And they also have characteristics of both the parents and their grandparents etc... Therefore I can say that next gen can refer to the 'offspring' of the older generation. As a result next gen really refers to not only a new, fresh outlook in game consoles but also an offspring of the older generation of consoles.

Overall, the Wii, PS3 and XBOX 360 all are next generation consoles.

Hope this clears the confusion about the "next gen" issue and its semantics.

MMCD · 07-22-2006, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by linkzeldagame

What does "next gen" exactly mean? Does it mean an updated generation of game consoles that are faster, better and more complicated than the older versions of game consoles? Eg Next Gen: PS3, XBOX 360, GC. Old Gen: PS2, XBOX, N64.

Or does it mean a new generation of game consoles? A fresh look in game consoles in the way they handle operations coming from the games and the console hardware? Eg: NES, N64, Wii.

Consider this: combine the two meanings of new and next gen with the history of nintendo, look at the consoles made since the birth of the NES.
New Generation:
Consoles:
NES, N64, Wii
Handhelds:
GnW, GB, DS

Next Generation:
Consoles:
SNES, GC.
Handhelds:
GBC, GBA.

I was thinking about the actual meaning of the word 'next gen'. Wii can say that children are the next gen of their parents. Children are new compared to their parents and are healthier, stronger and fitter than their parents. And they also have characteristics of both the parents and their grandparents etc... Therefore I can say that next gen can refer to the 'offspring' of the older generation. As a result next gen really refers to not only a new, fresh outlook in game consoles but also an offspring of the older generation of consoles.

Overall, the Wii, PS3 and XBOX 360 all are next generation consoles.

Hope this clears the confusion about the "next gen" issue and its semantics.

quite a good analogy but you could have also said the share a name like the next gen consoles after NES all had Nintendo somewhere in their name,

same with the GnW they had the word game

07-08-2006, 06:44 AM	#43
motherbrainrulez WiiChat Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: glass tank, zebes Posts: 862 Friends: 0 8024-1926-5495-8435	wii is not next gen whatever comes after it will be next gen __________________ Thanks to Pepper for the sig I am leader of the Super Metroid fanclub

07-08-2006, 10:57 PM	#44
Lachadine Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: duksoop Posts: 167 Friends: 0	nintendo IS next-gen the wii isnt next-gen for its graphics. its next-gen for inovation! nintendos changing the way we play games completely while microsoft, and sony are almost doing nothing to inovate. If changing gamming completely isnt next-gen, i dont know what is.

07-09-2006, 12:06 AM	#45
Dav_4550 WiiChat Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Blackhole Posts: 188 Friends: 0 7190-3324-3845-8331	That's true, but unfortunately many feel that the term next gen has to do with the latest graphics and processing hardware, which is unfortunate. __________________ Wii, 2 Remotes, 2 Nunchucks, Classic Controller, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Zelda: TP, Resident Evil 4, Metal Slug Anthology, Guitar Hero III VC: Mario Bros, Mario Bros 3, Ninja Gaiden II, Sonic 2, Shinobi III, Soldier Blade, Blazing Lasers, Devil's Crush, Lords of Thunder, Harvest Moon, Super Metroid, Castlevania IV, Zelda: Link to the Past, F-Zero GX, Street Fighter II: Turbo, Axelay

07-09-2006, 05:53 PM	#47
Dav_4550 WiiChat Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Blackhole Posts: 188 Friends: 0 7190-3324-3845-8331	yeah, the PS3 will be alienating a large portion of gamers, who even if they wanted a PS3, they wouldn't be able to afford it. If third party support jumps to Nintendo because of its easily accessable price, Sony will have little to offer its customers and it will be doomed for this era of the "console wars" __________________ Wii, 2 Remotes, 2 Nunchucks, Classic Controller, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Zelda: TP, Resident Evil 4, Metal Slug Anthology, Guitar Hero III VC: Mario Bros, Mario Bros 3, Ninja Gaiden II, Sonic 2, Shinobi III, Soldier Blade, Blazing Lasers, Devil's Crush, Lords of Thunder, Harvest Moon, Super Metroid, Castlevania IV, Zelda: Link to the Past, F-Zero GX, Street Fighter II: Turbo, Axelay

07-09-2006, 09:47 PM	#49
Dav_4550 WiiChat Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Blackhole Posts: 188 Friends: 0 7190-3324-3845-8331	yeah, I bought my PS2 originally for 250.00 USD when it came out ( a special deal at toys r us) well the PS2 is now what $150.00? That means that the price dropped 150.00 (because I believe 300.00 was the average price at launch). Even if the 500.00 drops half the price (which I don't think it will) it will be the same price as the Wii. It might drop to 300 dollars but I think that might be as cheap as they get. Just speculation though __________________ Wii, 2 Remotes, 2 Nunchucks, Classic Controller, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Zelda: TP, Resident Evil 4, Metal Slug Anthology, Guitar Hero III VC: Mario Bros, Mario Bros 3, Ninja Gaiden II, Sonic 2, Shinobi III, Soldier Blade, Blazing Lasers, Devil's Crush, Lords of Thunder, Harvest Moon, Super Metroid, Castlevania IV, Zelda: Link to the Past, F-Zero GX, Street Fighter II: Turbo, Axelay


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07-07-2006, 11:10 PM	#41
Dav_4550 WiiChat Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Blackhole Posts: 188 Friends: 0 7190-3324-3845-8331	I agree with the "new gen" label since they (nintendo) are going for something entirely...well, new. They are moving over into a niche of their own. Imagine three cars traveling down a freeway in the same lane, no one is really going to get anywhere since they are riding each others butts... but if a car (nintendo) were to move into another lane, even if it led somewhere else (innovation), they would be able to pull out in front of the other cars (competition). Maybe it is a hard analogy to follow, but I kind of like it...and I made it up on the spot so forgive me if it's a little weak. btw...I'm 19 and going to college in the fall, and I happen to enjoy all ratings of games: E,T,M. People shouldn't feel like they have to play an M game in order to be mature. Let the rest of the gamers follow one another...the Wii is for individuals.

07-09-2006, 08:33 PM	#48
Lachadine Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: duksoop Posts: 167 Friends: 0	i agree, once everyone sees the price of the ps3 they will be like !!! also i noticed that the percentage of money that the ps2 has dropped today would make the ps3 as much as the wii if it dropped the same way and this is after about 6 years!

07-20-2006, 02:12 AM	#53
_-Darkfear-_ Wiifan Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: My house Posts: 35 Friends: 0	I agree. Wii is next gen all the way. It's not graphical prowess that matters it's the Revolutionary (wink wink) idea that makes this system so awesome! ...Plus Nintendo kicks a$$ __________________ Nothing more to say.

07-20-2006, 02:16 AM	#54
SuppaRoy SSBB site is my home page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 241 Friends: 0 3481-0462-1023-5980	Hell people sayin Xbox 360 is Next generation is just stupid. Its just better graphics and more power and wut not. The PS3 i can hand it to them they got ALOT of techincal stuff cramed in the system im guessin they got next generation but the Wii is the defenition of Next gen. Changin the way of gamin completely turnin it upside down. __________________ MARIO STRIKERS CHARGED - PM me for Friend Code Exchanges. 386653-777982 MAKE SURE you send me a private message telling me you added me. Wins-70 Loses-14 Undefeated within friends roster. Think you can beat me....jus pm me and we will see

07-22-2006, 02:18 AM	#56
linkzeldagame Posts when necessary. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of Oz Posts: 454 Friends: 0	What does "next gen" exactly mean? Does it mean an updated generation of game consoles that are faster, better and more complicated than the older versions of game consoles? Eg Next Gen: PS3, XBOX 360, GC. Old Gen: PS2, XBOX, N64. Or does it mean a new generation of game consoles? A fresh look in game consoles in the way they handle operations coming from the games and the console hardware? Eg: NES, N64, Wii. Consider this: combine the two meanings of new and next gen with the history of nintendo, look at the consoles made since the birth of the NES. New Generation: Consoles: NES, N64, Wii Handhelds: GnW, GB, DS Next Generation: Consoles: SNES, GC. Handhelds: GBC, GBA. I was thinking about the actual meaning of the word 'next gen'. Wii can say that children are the next gen of their parents. Children are new compared to their parents and are healthier, stronger and fitter than their parents. And they also have characteristics of both the parents and their grandparents etc... Therefore I can say that next gen can refer to the 'offspring' of the older generation. As a result next gen really refers to not only a new, fresh outlook in game consoles but also an offspring of the older generation of consoles. Overall, the Wii, PS3 and XBOX 360 all are next generation consoles. Hope this clears the confusion about the "next gen" issue and its semantics.

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