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Old 02-03-2007, 12:32 AM   #41
 
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I'm straight. I don't have a problem with gays or anything either...
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:40 AM   #42
 
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i agree i'll never understand it
Well, I'll agree women are hot and cute. With their big tits, wet pussy and soft skin. Problem is...
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:43 AM   #43
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Wow... Posted this last night and I see a heated argument! What did I do?!

Anyway, somebody asked what a hag and stag is. Fag hags are girls who hang around gay people. Fag stags are "straight guys" who hang around gay people. How is a hag stag possible? Believe me, one of my buddies is a stag or could be called a "metrosexual (hmm... too much definitions here...)"

As for those who say that being gay is a choice and for those who don't understand homosexuality, I tell you this.

Wouldn't it suck when you were 11 that you're attracted to guys instead of girls? And all your life, you tried to make your dick "open up" to chicks, but can't?

It just happens, I don't know how. I didn't wake up and said to myself, "Gee, I think I'm going to be gay my whole life!" We remember that point in time where we were about to pass the threshold of puberty. Somehow, "genetically" or "psychologically" or "environmentally" (there are a lot of theories out there trying to explain homosexuality) factors had bestowed upon me the curse or gift of being gay. Would I like to be straight? Hmm... Nope. Boys are cute and Link is feckin' hot! (Sorry Zelda fans)

It is a mystery, yes, to those who are not gay, lesbian, bi and transsexual, since they didn't undergo the internal conflicts and the threatening external conflicts that beckoned. It seems far-fetched for guys to imagine two guys doing stuff since society speaks of male and female alone. It is a mystery by factors. Factors such as 1) lack of information or enlightenment, 2) apathy and 3) conformity.

So should I enlighten you guys? I don't know. But just by the very presence of this heated argument and the very presence of unawareness proves that homosexuality is still in the fringe of getting accepted. It is also apparent that homosexuality is here and that it is getting a voice from themselves and their supporters.

As of now, more and more people are opening up to the "homo" thing in a sense that they accept it and they are okay with it. I'm a butch gay guy (oh boy, more definitions) and I enjoy hanging out with straight people and they know that I'm queer as folk. Of course, that's in New York. Other places, I am completely ignorant about (except for San Francisco).

So, for my hetero, homo and undecided fellows out there, there is a queer guy here in WiiChat and he has the hots for Link.

P.S. "The_Loose_Cannon..." east-siiiiiiidde!!!
P.P.S. And no, I don't use the wiimote as a vibrator.

lol youve officially made me laugh.

the only thing i disagree with you is being gay isnt genetic. many people think it is because youre just attracted to who you think is "attractive" which is what alot of people have been saying (just not in that context)

when i watch tv and i see angelina jolie on i go CRAZY! id probably turn "dyke" for her in a heartbeat!!! but does that make me a lesbian right now as we speak? no. i just find "beauty" in something. its not a sexual act, its a "hedonistic superficial act". had i PROBABLY be locked up in a room with her, i wouldnt know a single thing in "pleasing the same sex" which may sound odd at first but makes sense if you think about it.

what i mean when i say being gay is a lifestyle and a choice, i dont mean that one morning like you said im going to roll out of bed and call myself "joe" (instead of jill my name) and start going to gay clubs lol. what i mean is that when youre hitting puberty and you realize that youre having a "crush" on your best friend who lives nextdoor and she too is a girl. its your choice from that moment on to be with girls or boys. you can "experiment" and go throughout life living "a lie" to later feel it is "about that time" to come out of the closet. see what im saying?

like i said i have many friends in the gay community who have perfectly straight families and siblings but somehow they turned out gay. genetics really has nothing to do with it. it really doesnt. i mean if you look on your family tree and you start doing your punet squares and thinking of mendel what would be the dominent and recessive gene here? Straight and straigher? but in a retaliation, its like how both parents have blue eyes and you got brown some how? no no one slept with the mail man but do you see where im going with that as well?

then theres the god thing which i dont want to get into no matter what anyone says. you guys read my point in my previous post and thats all i have to say about that.

anyways, thats my "arguement" lol which isnt really an arguement again so dont take it in a harsh tone. im just saying it to make a point that you and i agree on MANY points but unfortunitly disagree with the "genetics thing"

ETA- people tend to think that "transgender people" are "gay or lesbians" its not true! that is a popular misconception. basically its like this. youre born a woman you develope as a woman BUT they believe that it was "a mistake" they arent happy about who they are. they feel that they were born to be a man so they start off "cross dressing" (think of the movie "boys dont cry" which is one of my favorite movies!), does that mean that because you dress like a boy and act like a boy that youre now a "dyke lesbian?" no it means youre going through life as a "man" you address everyone as you would normally but as a man....penis or no penis. you hit on women just as men would and you fall inlove with them. thats NOT being a lesbian.

some people have the surgery where they believe that "the woman private parts" mimic the "male private parts" and have a prostetic "man part". its fully funtional (but no sperm) and they are now men and take the medication to become a man (IE testasterome for one). same goes as from male to female. they have the surgery and turn their "manhood" inside out and off to mimic the "female privates".

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Old 02-03-2007, 02:01 AM   #44
 
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...'cause I'm one!

Which one? The gay one. Anybody else?
who cares that he is gay, does it really matter...so what if hes gay...i dont care it doesnt affect me...why are people so mean to gay people?
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:38 AM   #45
 
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By "openminded" I was referring to the people who acceps facts of life that might seem weird to most other people.
but anyway, sorry for mention It.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:44 AM   #46
 
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I'm a lesbian
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:44 AM   #47
 
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the way I look at it, there seems to be more common sense around gays than straights...not that i'm callin' gays smarter than straights, or straights smarter than gays. (or bisexuals for that matter)
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:09 AM   #48
 
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ho say that being gay is a choice and for those who don't understand homosexuality, I tell you this.

Wouldn't it suck when you were 11 that you're attracted to guys instead of girls? And all your life, you tried to make your dick "open up" to chicks, but can't?

It is a mystery, yes, to those who are not gay, lesbian, bi and transsexual, since they didn't undergo the internal conflicts and the threatening external conflicts that beckoned.
I have to chip in here and take the stand from a Hetro / Agnostic point of view regarding your statements - we all have read / seen in the media how being gay can be a tumultuous time in a young persons life but consider the flip side of the coin - you're spotty, overweight, disabled, shy, stupid, violent, nasty, ignorant, short, tall, thin, ginger, big nosed, easily manipulated, bullied, mocked, geeky and to top it all off you wear cheap sneakers... etc BUT are attracted to the opposite sex who take no notice of you - you could feel isolated, rejected, resented, worthless, possibly suicidal, an outcast, confused...alone

Does this not resemble the feeling people go through when they start to discover they are gay? It's not poles apart, is it?!?

Whilst I certainly don't wish to demean feelings which up to press I haven't had to deal with (you never know) - I can empathise with a lot of the above and the main point is that we as a race of beings suffer for all the same reasons just not always in the same order and should not be pidgeon-holed for the sake of the label we feel to wear. Our lives are shaped by not what label we wear this week but by our human nature - JP Sartre coined the phrase "Existentialism" and it's basically the effect of:

If a butterfly beats it's wings in Asia do we not feel the ripple of the breeze in Europe [what we do / say effects others in ways we can't appreciate]

This thread is proving that any perceived hatred you may come across in your life is temporary and people are shuffling about with their eyes open - you may find opposition in the town you are in but look at the variety of locations posting positivity throughout this discussion - it's mindblowing that we communicate with aplomb and dignity and we make this supposition via the written word - no verbal inflections, no deviation in handwriting to go on just solid words to discuss an obvious immotive issue. After all do we not all need to fit in somewhere? It's a common struggle: although not always equal: to all colours, creeds, religions and sexuality - it's our pack instincts.

Now if I could just find my black, gay jewish man servant to feed me peeled grapes because I'm late for my UN ambassadors' job in Texas....
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:49 AM   #49
 
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I understand that some people may get confused if they are gay, lesbian etc, but a girl thinking another girl is attractive doesnot mean you are a lesbian, its simply nature to think 'this' other person is good looking and you would like to look more like them- i mean, its the same for guys i guess, iv come across this topic many times and it seems people misunderstand. Im straight, but it doesnt hurt to look at another girl and say they look attractive.
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:24 AM   #50
 
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IM prop bisexial/straight (love designer clothes)
and madonna confessions on a dance floor album!
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Uh... I'll Stick With Girls.
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This is just a flamewar waiting to happen.
Straight here btw.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:37 AM   #53
 
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Bi
but I dont care about how I dress
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im straight and proud of it. its true sometimes i wonder how gays can NOT like women...the way they look smell feel..i mean i LOVE women.

im not against gays or any one who isnt straight...however our role in life is to populate Gods world. Gays cannot do this, which means they go against common nature...not that ur unnatural, but ur attractions are not right. but like i said im not against you.
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im straight and proud of it. its true sometimes i wonder how gays can NOT like women...the way they look smell feel..i mean i LOVE women.

im not against gays or any one who isnt straight...however our role in life is to populate Gods world. Gays cannot do this, which means they go against common nature...not that ur unnatural, but ur attractions are not right. but like i said im not against you.
Maybe gays think poopies are their "babies" since they like to "impregnate" eachothers arses.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:30 AM   #56
 
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Err no I dont think so
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o.O thats a bit harsh...
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:48 PM   #58
 
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