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Old 06-26-2007, 01:02 PM   #41
 
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Seems a little too heavy for me to get involved in so I'll sneak back out the way I came in.........
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Hm, so the media and the audience of wrestling it attracts makes them behave the way they do... Well, if that is the case, then I would have thought wrestling would have been banned a long time ago, it's just like bear fighting or something.

He could have potentially murdered his family. Have you not lost a bit of respect for that man knowing that? Sure, he may not have, but it's leaning towards that he did. However, I would think he's sick if he murdered his wife and son on the weekend then stuck around 'til Monday to kill himself, maybe he was trying to see if he could live with guilt, obviously not.
No what I mean is that some of the "wrestlers" who become involved in the sport themselves suffer from form of mental/emotional problems...
Its not often that a normal well adjusted person gets themselves pumped on steroids to be that big - then parades in front of arena's full of screaming fans calling for blood, whilst pretending to beat on his colleagues.
Wrestling itself has had some pretty good people - but watch the documetaries, read the interviews/articles. There is a seedier side to Pro wrestling.
Imagine for a job you basically work out - get pumped. Get on stage and act like a jerk/tough guy every day. Travel the country away from your family. Thats gonna have an effect on even the most well-adjusted person. For a person with emotional/mental issues thats a recipe for disaster. There's plenty of substance abuse/spousal abuse stories in wrestling - they arent hard to find.

But there are plenty of good people involved in the sport too. People who get involved for different reasons. Wrestling itself isn't the problem. Its that maybe if it focused on the emotional side of things instead of always the physical. The one lesson that Wrestling will never teach us is that "violence in our modern society doesn't solve anything".

We don't know the full story to what happened to the Benoit family. But it looks like he has killed them then himself. Which is a terrible thing.

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Pretty much what I was saying. Okay, he might have been seen as a legend to wrestling fans and whatnot, but if you murder your wife and kid, you don't deserve respect. The respect should of gone out the window. But then again, it is only an assumption. You never know, his wife could of been the killer of the 3..

Very Very good points.
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gg chris, gg
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Whats gg mean?

Also from the WWE site...

"WAGA, a FOX-owned and operated television station in Atlanta, reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son over the weekend, then himself on Monday."

The WWE need to take all the hype about Chris Benoir off their site.
I mean they have a pic of him looking pumped and mean with the caption "In loving memory of the Benoir Family".

WTF!? If he killed them I'm sure thats a bit disrepectful to the family.

Imagine a poster of Charles Manson with the caption "In loving memory of all Charles's victims" - anyone see what I'm getting at here?

Also the WWE are going to run a special career retrospective show about a murderer?! (has this already aired? - I live in UK so don't know)
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I see a little too much sensitivity to assumptions.

First, a Fox station would be the first to speculate and make assumptions. So far, it seems extremely easy to make the assumption that Benoit killed his family. It should also be clear to see that if this was found as fact that EVERY newsstation would have picked up on it immediately and reported the newest development. So you can't take everything a single newsstation says as fact.

Also, in terms of whether or not he should be remembered, I believe he should be. You can't equate Benoit to Charles Manson, based only on committing murder. He should be remembered for who he was, and based on all that I've read up on, he was a respected and very respectable man. He was kind and there for his friends, wrestlers or not. So far, that's what I've gotten out of his story.

The only facts I've seen is that Benoit did not die from getting shot. It does appear that he may have committed suicide in some way, and may have killed his family beforehand. Still, until we know for sure, it's good to remember him for who he was, not what he MAY have done.
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I see a little too much sensitivity to assumptions.

First, a Fox station would be the first to speculate and make assumptions. So far, it seems extremely easy to make the assumption that Benoit killed his family. It should also be clear to see that if this was found as fact that EVERY newsstation would have picked up on it immediately and reported the newest development. So you can't take everything a single newsstation says as fact.

Also, in terms of whether or not he should be remembered, I believe he should be. You can't equate Benoit to Charles Manson, based only on committing murder. He should be remembered for who he was, and based on all that I've read up on, he was a respected and very respectable man. He was kind and there for his friends, wrestlers or not. So far, that's what I've gotten out of his story.

The only facts I've seen is that Benoit did not die from getting shot. It does appear that he may have committed suicide in some way, and may have killed his family beforehand. Still, until we know for sure, it's good to remember him for who he was, not what he MAY have done.
The media are always like chinese whisperers (when a rumour is whispered, then passed on and eventually has a completely different outcome) when it comes to broadcasting. However, they all come out with the outcome of the truth, so we think. But, they're often reliable and tell us the gist of the story. As far as the 'innocent 'til proven guilty' thing goes, the media never seem to take this into consideration. I agree that we should never take assumptions, but that is what we base our lives around.

Everyone is remembered, you can't deny that they won't be remembered, even Hitler was remebered. Based on who he was, he seems to have had issues from the environment he was in. This is contradicting, if you did not know the person, you only have the media to go off of his personality, and from your views, they often seem to have got them wrong. He could have been a psychopath boiling up each day until he finally collapsed.

An autopsy nearly always states the cause of death, possibly drug overdose is the main reason I am thinking it. But there have been 'murder weapons', reportedly, I believe that was to kill the family though. Who knows, eh? It'll soon be revealed.

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I mean they have a pic of him looking pumped and mean with the caption "In loving memory of the Benoir Family".
That is what he was known for, he was known for wrestling. Basically, the WWE think that wrestling was his life and they should be the ultimate news source.

I think this is terribly disrespectful for the family, it is the same matter that people on the sex offenders list are not allowed to appear on television because it would offend victims.
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It is still possible that Benoit was a victim rather than a killer. But until the facts are straightened out it would have been wise for the WWE to hold off on the special career retrospective. But what could they do I suppose?..
No gun was used - been confirmed... Bodies all found in different rooms.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...eels-headlines

Large dogs prowl the grounds of his house so I don't think a stranger could have entered the home.. Tragic and strange.
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I still can't believe any of this, I mean his last match was just last tuesday everything seemed to be fine with him. And I'm sorry but everything is pointing to benoit killing his family and himself, as much as I hate to say it.
I just don't get it all, everyone in different rooms, wife in living room, son in bedroom, and Chris in his weight room. I also don't get why Chris would ask people to come and check on his family then have two dogs on his front yard.
He did not attend Vengeance because of personal/famliy problems, maybe his wife cheated on him or something. Who knows? I just want this all to be cleared up soon.
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this is shocking i could not believe it when i heard.
so what is the truth?
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Yes it was the truth.

Also if Benoit took the life of both his wife and seven year old son I find that sickening. However I guess I'll have to wait and see as to what actually happened.
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...Wouldn't the dogs have sensed something was wrong? Protecting his family seems kind of ironic now.
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Yes it was the truth.

Also if Benoit took the life of both his wife and seven year old son I find that sickening. However I guess I'll have to wait and see as to what actually happened.
i no he's dead,
but what i'm saying is what's the actual story if you know.
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The current story is that he killed his wife and son on Sunday and then took his own life on Monday.
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oh man...I used to love Chris Benoit....

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well if he killed his wife and child and then committed suicide, i dont have much sympathy for him

but if they were all murdered, i have all the sympothy in the world
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wow hes really dead. and his wife was another wrestling star, "woman". she managed sandman back in the early ECW days and then more in the WCW. But if he killed his own family, i hope we find out why he did it.
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