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Old 07-04-2007, 04:26 AM  
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You are supposed to do it with the hard drive removed. Did you verify it was detected in the bios?

On the screenshot you sent do you see the link for device manager at the top? Look in there to see if the CD drive is listed and also if the secondary IDE is listed.

Do you know the model number of your motherboard?
yea it was detected in bios thats what i see when i enter device manager the motherboard is an elitegroup ht 200 geforce 6100 thats what it says on the box
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:33 AM  
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okay i think i found my motherboard
http://www.etech4sale.com/Elitegroup...id-293039.html
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Can you expand the IDE/ATAPI controllers and check for primary and secondary?

Im looking up specs on your MB. Can you tell me the model number of your CD?

Is your HD PATA or SATA?

Edit: Here is your MB http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...uID=46&LanID=9
Sorry for doubting you. You are right that it only has one Pata port. It has two sata ports.


So to double check did you try booting the CD with the hard drive not connected at all?

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Can you expand the IDE/ATAPI controllers and check for primary and secondary?

Im looking up specs on your MB. Can you tell me the model number of your CD?

Is your HD PATA or SATA?

Edit: Here is your MB http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...uID=46&LanID=9
Sorry for doubting you. You are right that it only has one Pata port. It has two sata ports.
Yup there you go thats my mb
And i think my hardrive is SATA
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Does the HD use a cable like this (sata)


Or like this (pata)
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:42 AM  
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Does the HD use a cable like this (sata)


Or like this (pata)
oh okay yea its PATA
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Crap.

Are you using an 80 pin IDE cable and putting the CD in the middle set on slave and the HD at the end set on master normally?

So can you try disconnecting the HD, setting the CD as master and try to boot from it with the HD not attached? If that doesnt work then your CD might be dead.

The reason I say to remove the HD is because in the past (years back) there were some HD and CD that wouldnt play well together on the same cable. Did this HD and CD ever work together on the same cable?
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Crap.

So can you try disconnecting the HD, setting the CD as master and try to boot from it with the HD not attached? If that doesnt work then your CD might be dead.

k ill try
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You are changing the jumpers on the drive right?
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You are changing the jumpers on the drive right?
ummm no not that i dont have anything connected there all i have is the PATA connection and power connection
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Well does the drive say to remove the jumpers? The sticker on top of the drive should say how to set them. That is probably why its not working - you have to use jumpers to tell the drive its slave.

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Well does the drive say to remove the jumpers? The sticker on top of the drive should say how to set them. That is probably why its not working - you have to use jumpers to tell the drive its slave.
no the drive doesnt say anything and no theres no sticker on top of the cd drive as i removed it from my other pc
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Well you are going to have to find a jumper because the drive is now either in Master mode or cable select mode which shouldnt work. Can you get the model number of the drive? are there any markings on the PCB?

So what happened when you tried with only the CD attached? Did it detect in the bios as primary master or?
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Well you are going to have to find a jumper because the drive is now either in Master mode or cable select mode which shouldnt work. Can you get the model number of the drive? are there any markings on the PCB?

So what happened when you tried with only the CD attached? Did it detect in the bios as primary master or?
When i tried it with the cd attached it said boot from cd:
and it said amd sumthing sumthing then it said boot failed enter system cd and press enter and i had the system cd
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I am 75% sure the issue is the jumpers on your drive.

When booting up it should say "hit f1 to enter setup" or "hit del to enter cmos configuration" and if you do that you can find a section that lists the drives. See what the CD is detected as when its connected all on its own.
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I am 75% sure the issue is the jumpers on your drive.

When booting up it should say "hit f1 to enter setup" or "hit del to enter cmos configuration" and if you do that you can find a section that lists the drives. See what the CD is detected as when its connected all on its own.
Yea i did that and i went to my cd drive and it displayed my cd drive
THis is the error i get when i try and run cds...
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Yea i did that and i went to my cd drive and it displayed my cd drive
THis is the error i get when i try and run cds...

Haha you missed the most important part of the question. Im not just asking if its detected Im asking what it was detected as! Master or slave.

Separate question, is there a model number on the cd drive?

I seriously think you need a jumper to set the CD as slave.
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Haha you missed the most important part of the question. Im not just asking if its detected Im asking what it was detected as! Master or slave.
Idk how do you check that in the bios?

Separate question, is there a model number on the cd drive?
Yea its a HL DT ST GCE 8400B

I seriously think you need a jumper to set the CD as slave.
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OKAY I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! THNXZ FOR HELPING ME WELL IT WAS DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT IT WAS THE DRIVE THAT WAS BROKEN I SWITCHED IT WITH A DVD DRIVE AND IT WORKED WELL THNZ AGAIN FOR HELPING +REP
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