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Old 07-22-2008, 10:29 AM   #4361
 
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Why is a disability worth death? Would you allow me to euthanize all living handicapped people?
I believe that some disabilities are worth death, especially ones that'll end up killing you anyway. I also don't believe that euthanasia is always wrong.


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Your third-world-country argument holds up a lot better than "I just don't want it, I didn't mean for it to happen, oops." You should just stick to that.
As I'm pretty sure I mentioned, I believe that adoption > abortion where possible. However, I also believe that the to-be mother should have control over abortion, so long as abortion isn't turned into contraception.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:34 AM   #4362
 
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That really depends on the disability. I'm not talking about a person with a broken leg, I'm talking about people that will be constantly in excruciating pain.
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then does that mean what kevorkian did was right?

not that i do or don't believe what he did was, but i'm just asking.
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If the patients did not want to live any more due to the hardship they would be facing for the rest of their life, I don't see anything wrong with them wanting to end there life.

From what I've read quickly right this minute about Jack Kevorkian on Wikipedia I don't completely agree with some of his actions. The fact he was doing this without a license to practice Medicine and the whole 60 minutes thing being the main ones.

I do admire his motives though.
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Would you allow me to euthanize all living handicapped people?
Of course not, you wouldn't be able to cope with the emotional baggage anyway. It is the person's choice, or those of their families if he/she is unable to make one.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:00 AM   #4366
 
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If the patients did not want to live any more due to the hardship they would be facing for the rest of their life, I don't see anything wrong with them wanting to end there life.

From what I've read quickly right this minute about Jack Kevorkian on Wikipedia I don't completely agree with some of his actions. The fact he was doing this without a license to practice Medicine and the whole 60 minutes thing being the main ones.

I do admire his motives though.
Here you give the option to the patients. Babies don't get that.
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I'm giving the decision to the mother who has the babies best interests at heart. You must realise the mother is part of the birth process, not just the baby. So in a way I am giving the patients the choice.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:18 AM   #4368
 
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Babies can't exactly look after themselves, Adam. As Pete said, the mother is a huge part of the birth process, so she's in the best position to make the decision.
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There are plenty of ways to have sex without getting pregnant. Total abstinence is a little overboard for me.
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Choosing when to have sex is in a different category to choosing when to have a baby IMO. Abortion helps in certain situations like for rape victims, but then sadly othere people - who could easily have just used contraception - do see it as an easy way out.
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:50 PM   #4370
 
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You're right.

Abortion should be discouraged as a contraceptive, but not denied altogether.
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Abortion should be discouraged, but not denied altogether.
Quite the contrary to your previous discussion on abortion, eh?
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Quite the contrary to your previous discussion on abortion, eh?
...Not at all.

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As I'm pretty sure I mentioned, I believe that adoption > abortion where possible. However, I also believe that the to-be mother should have control over abortion, so long as abortion isn't turned into contraception.
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*facepalm*
You should know what I'm talking about. >.>
Have another look.

Back on topic. Abortion is not a painless thing adam, hence it is no coward's way out.
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...The hell? Of course it is.
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i was aborted once

but i survived muhahahah

yes, some aborted babies sometimes survive the process

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Some would prefer I had been.
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What are you views on abortion? Should it be allowed etc. ( If this gets out of hand stop please)
There are cases where it should definitely be an option, but any retarded horny teenagers (BOTH parties involved) who end up with a pregnancy should have to deal with it for the 9 months to realize how moronic they are, and then seek adoption.

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- Eagles FTW.
- I love how some of you view pregnancy and abortions as completely the girl's problem, hah.
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