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Old 04-14-2008, 05:50 AM  
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What do you consider "cheating"?

What is your definition of cheating (relationship wise)? I think it depends upon your specific relationship, so, how do you both come up with the definition? Is your definition the same as your mate's? What if it isn't and the betrayed person never gets justification/redemption for their feelings from their mate? Once you figure it out and agree that there has been infidelity, what then? If you remain in the relationship, how do you get the trust back? Or do you ever get the trust back?

I had met what seemed to be a really amazing guy, until I heard his views on sex and relationships. I guess you could say hes more "open" and free about it. Basically meaning, he doesn't think it's a big deal if people kiss or whatever if it has no emotional attachment. I didn't like the sound of that at all. Not to mention he is also a massage therapist, and the idea of him rubbing his hands all over some chick's body turns me off, (if I were to be in a relationship with him) even if it was "professional". Technically, it's not cheating since he's doing his job, but if he wasn't doing it for work, giving someone a body massage (with only underwear on) would be crossing the line in my book.
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Agreed.

Also that was way too long now my head hurts.

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I think that's something that needs to be understood by both people in a relationship. From personal experience I know there's nothing worse than thinking you meant the same to someone else, only to find out that their view on the relationship was a bit different.

As for the trust issue, 9 times out of 10, I don't think you ever get the trust back, not with something like that. Even if you can deal with it, the idea that it might happen again is always somewhere in the back of your mind, being very suspicious. At that point you have to ask yourself if you just want to "deal with it" for the rest of your life (which is settling...BIG time), or get out of the relationship. I know it's overstated all the time, but without trust, there's really not much of a point.
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I think that's something that needs to be understood by both people in a relationship. From personal experience I know there's nothing worse than thinking you meant the same to someone else, only to find out that their view on the relationship was a bit different.

As for the trust issue, 9 times out of 10, I don't think you ever get the trust back, not with something like that. Even if you can deal with it, the idea that it might happen again is always somewhere in the back of your mind, being very suspicious. At that point you have to ask yourself if you just want to "deal with it" for the rest of your life (which is settling...BIG time), or get out of the relationship. I know it's overstated all the time, but without trust, there's really not much of a point.

I can't really say any more that what's been said here. Karyyk summed it up prety well. =]
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I believe that when someone starts spamming or just running away and camping is considered cheating.
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Some people consider online flirting or what not with people while your married or together to not be cheating, but if your a married guy or girl flirting with someone else, thats horrible. Its even worse if you have kids, theres just no need to do that.

In person, cheating to me is fooling around with another person. Flirting in that sense is alright because at least your not hiding it, at least people know your doing it.
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If my wife has a 3-some without me thats cheating ha ha...

I'm a forgive and forget kinda guy, always have been, everyone makes mistakes aslong as they are simple slips of temptation and not straight out having another life behind your back in my mind I would let that go, might take some work to get my trust back but I wouldn't drop everything over something stupid like that.

If you can't trust and ontop of tha forgive someone for the mistakes in a relastionship then its doomed from day one no matter how big or small. Jealousy and trust issues are the biggest killers in relationships

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If my wife has a 3-some without me thats cheating ha ha...

I'm a forgive and forget kinda guy, always have been, everyone makes mistakes aslong as they are simple slips of temptation and not straight out having another life behind your back in my mind I would let that go, might take some work to get my trust back but I wouldn't drop everything over something stupid like that.

If you can't trust and ontop of tha forgive someone for the mistakes in a relastionship then its doomed from day one no matter how big or small. Jealousy and trust issues are the biggest killers in relationships

That's good, I'm usually a forgiving person, but in an intimate relationship, infidelity is not so easily forgivable for me. One of my e boyfriends used to always hint that he'd really like it if we had a 3-some with one of my female friends... I laughed at it, but it sort of sounded like he just wanted to bang hot chicks or whatever and anyone whos that pussy driven and horny sends out major red flags to me. But thats just me.
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That's good, I'm usually a forgiving person, but in an intimate relationship, infidelity is not so easily forgivable for me. One of my e boyfriends used to always hint that he'd really like it if we had a 3-some with one of my female friends... I laughed at it, but it sort of sounded like he just wanted to bang hot chicks or whatever and anyone whos that pussy driven and horny sends out major red flags to me. But thats just me.

Everybody is differnt in there take on sex and how important it is to the relationship... Lol thats why you see all these older married couples "not me yet ha ha" that are swingers and have g/f or b/f on the side... Some people look at sex more as fun than intimate, specially after being together so long, but some are the opposite, the key is to find someone that feels the same way as you do to be happy.
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People who cheat should be shot.
If you're so out of love with someone that you're thinking of having sex with someone else, for Christ's sake, break up with your current partner first, then you're free!
People who are in love don't cheat or consider cheating. Of course everyone fantasizes about people, but fantasy and acting OUT fantasy are two vastly different things.

Monogamy is not that difficult of a concept. :\

Threesomes...I think about them all the time. They sound amazing, but do I actually want my boyfriend all over another girl? No, I just want him watching ME all over another girl to be honest :P
He feels "do not want" regarding another guy all over me, too. So in theory they sound ridiculously fun, but when you really picture it...not so much.
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Threesomes...I think about them all the time. They sound amazing, but do I actually want my boyfriend all over another girl? No, I just want him watching ME all over another girl to be honest :P
He feels "do not want" regarding another guy all over me, too. So in theory they sound ridiculously fun, but when you really picture it...not so much.

He would be more than happy just watching trust me .. lol its more of a fanstasy for guys than anything, alot of girls get into it aswell. Fact is most guys couldn't handle 2 women let alone 1 most of the time ha ha.

And if your running off with someone sleeping with them behind your partners back, obviously you have issues in the relastionship. The worst thing I can recall my wife and I doing is kissing some old friend while drunk at a party not thinking. If that goes as far as you sleeping with random people then maybe you should lay off the sauce cause its not a good excuse.

But again it all depends on how you both look at sex. If your going to mix things up together thats fine. But just deciding to run off with strangers I don't know seems odd to me. Some people do do it though, and have long happy relationships, so who knows to each there own I guess. Still whatever you do should be known and ok'd by your partner otherwise it would be cheating.
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