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Conspiracy theorists such as David Icke, Ryan Burke and Morgan Gricar, have argued that the Bavarian Illuminati survived, possibly to this day (with David Icke arguing that Adam Weishaupt and George Washington were both one and the same person). Many of these theories propose that world events are being controlled and manipulated by a secret society calling itself the Illuminati. However, no reliable evidence can be found to support that Weishaupt's group survived into the 19th century.
In addition to the conspiracy theories, several modern groups have used the name Illuminati to found their own rites, claiming to be the Illuminati, including the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) founded by Theodor Reuss and Aleister Crowley (England), Grand Lodge Rockefeller founded by David Goldman (USA), Orden Illuminati founded by Gabriel López de Rojas (Spain), The Illuminati Order and others.
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New World Order refers to a set of conspiracy theories concerning a powerful and secretive group alleged to be plotting to eventually rule the world via an autonomous world government, which would replace sovereign states and other checks and balances in world power struggles. In this theory, many significant occurrences are said to be caused by a powerful secret group or groups. Historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to rule the world primarily through a combination of political finance, social engineering, mind control, and fear-based propaganda.
* In 2001 al-Qaeda terrorists primarily from Saudi Arabia, led by Osama Bin Laden, hijacked airliners and attacked the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, killing thousands of people. The attacks have been linked to ideas about the New World Order, sometimes presented as a conspiratorial media-orchestrated plot to frighten Americans into giving up their basic liberties to a "Homeland Security" authority that will eventually turn control of the United States over to a multi-national "coalition government."
* In 2002, the FDA approved the manufacture of the VeriChip microchip implant. Much more intrusive than the UPC, this aroused people's fears that some future totalitarian governments could enforce the implanting of these chips and thus fulfill the Book of Revelation prophecy regarding the Mark of the Beast. See Revelation 13:16-13:17
* In 2004, the Independent Task Force on North America, a project organized by the Council on Foreign Relations, proposes the establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community, generally referred to as the North American Union. It has been proposed by Robert Pastor, a vice-chairman of the task force, that the North American Union would have a common currency, the amero.
So what are your thoughts about all this? Is there really propaganda going on, could big media companies be brainwashing you into thinking someone is an enemy (Osama Bin Laden) when the real enemy is really the President? After all they were supposed to stop terrorism but all they've seem to do is get Oil and other things that had nothing to do with terrorists.
If you need more info or would like to see the info in video form search Illuminati or New World Order on Youtube. Hopefully we can get some good discussion going on this, I just watched the videos last night myself so sorry if the info is lacking at first. I'm still trying to gather it all in, I just though it was interesting. Share away..!
honestly it doesnt matter if it's true or not. we will all die one day, and Armageddon is fast approaching as well. people think they have power but in the end they just die. in the end all you can do is live by your own creed and apply it to whatever situation you happen to be given.
ill start off by saying, excellent thread cantgetawii
i always hate reading a conspiracy, not that i dont believe them, quite the contrary, they make me paranoid, once i read on that had me believing i was living in a program, like the matrix. ive heard of the illuminati before but didnt know what it was, so thank you for clearing that up for me. as of the new world order, i do not see that happening, ever. look around, the world is a big place with its own countries full of their own systems and governments. any attempt to control the world will end in failure before any progress can be made, no one would stand a chance. (dont bring up alexander, times were very different back then) no group, no army would stand against the worlds armys. no country is going down without a fight, but, if any idiotic world dominators try anything, well see a nuclear war on aur hands. all in all, conspireacy is just that, conspireacy. but i would be interested in hearing what cantgetawii thinks of all this
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The Illuminati may exist. My opinion is the same as everyone elses. The 2nd amendment gives me the right to fight the New World Order. Die or Live as a zombie. Easy answer to me.
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god i hate people that just drone on about conspiracies. At the end of the day, no matter how many "facts" they come up with to suggest a conspiracy theory, it will always just be a theory
Ok well i do believe the Illuminati exists. Well for a fact the Bavarian Illuminati did exist and still may. It was started in 1776 by a college professor and it was made of of "freethinkers". At first they called themselves the "Perfectibilists", while others called them "lluminati Order" and the "Bavarian Illuminati".
I've a read a bit on there history. And it seems there mark is written all over the Dollar Bill. One symbol is the Owl, which can be found an a one dollar bill on the front top right side. Also on the dollar bill in the back it says Annuit Coeptis which means our Enterprise is now a success. Also below that it says Nuvus Ordo Seclorum meaning, New World Order.
Also an upside down star is said to be there sign also, which can basically be seen everywhere, best place to find this is on the Republican Elephant logo.
Its also said to believe that every President that has served in the United states has been part of the Illuminati. Also said to believe that Bill Gates is a memeber.
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