R4DS uses Moonshell ...

I don't even know what a R4 is?? haha......I guess I am in that small % left out.

...wow Dylan never told me that when he gave his DS to me. Hah... I had R4 without even knowing. The above statements? I still stand by them.

Well I know my other DS doesn't have R4.

Exactly. You can even think of it on simpler terms.

20.5m DS units sold in the US market so far.

20.5 x 0.90 = 18.5m R4DS units sold in the US alone.

Riiiiiiiiight...

do you people have any idea how it easy it is to get one of these.i wouldnt be surprise of my 65% estimation was correct.

You're not answering any of our comments.

How easy? Do you really expect a little girls/boys would buy it? If we took a survey on how many people actually know what an R4DS is, I wouldn't even expect it to reach 10%. Majority of people who own a DS are kids who have no access to a credit card. Hell, it was hard to get one myself, I had to persuade my parents into getting me one, and allowing me to buy a MicroSD as well. If you really believe 65% of americans have one, you're saying 13+ million R4DS were manufactured? And also, people own M3's and other homebrew software. I don't know how you asked 200 people you know even have a R4DS. If the R4DS was that popular, wouldn't we be seeing some kind of action by Nintendo? We would have many more discussions on this forum. Seriously though, 65% is a very unrealistic number, it's no where near it.

Nintendo not taking action? Games are still being released as of this date, and are still turning into roms. I don't see Nintendo doing any part in this. If you could supply me the link to this "arm7", maybe I'll start believing.

when was the last time you opened a rom and looks inside of it. the arm7 was always in ds games but the new ones in zelda, donkey kong, prostreet and many others actually stop you from entering the game. it will give you a message saying that it cant read the card. ever get that before?

i think you are under estimating the amount of teenagers and adults that own the ds. you are pulling numbers out of no where. i dont believe that th ESA is doing that.

To be honest, I've never heard of the R4 until a few weeks ago. The article does seem biased, because there is no way that 90% of owners could be using the software and Nintendo isn't doing anything about it.

i just finished mentioning that nintendo is doing something about it. a company called ARM which makes the ingame processors has worked with nintendo to make a protection program that is unbreakable but has one weakness. and that is that fact it can easly be taken out and replaced with an old one.

Not to sound rude, but do you actually have an official link from Nintendo claiming that?

Where am I pulling out numbers? I don't see anything. If you really believe a person who knows what an R4DS is and knows how to use it, then that's your opinion. I don't see anyone else supporting your idea or theory.

Underestimating? Answer this question:

According to your data. Do you believe 13 million DS owners have an R4DS?

ok point taken.but i still believe that there are more than 10% of ds owner who own the r4 or m3.


claiming what the arm7? look it up.

Sounds better. At least the number is more reasonable..

if you come to my area it really does seem like 90% of ds owners have an r4 or m3. but abviously it doesnt seem to be the case in USA.