taejien

Hey guys, i dont know if this has been widely discussed or anything.. if it is, just let me know.

Now I know that the graphics will probably not match up to ps3 or 360. But does anyone know if it will be like current ps2 graphics? or inbetween a ps2 and ps3/360?

Mr_Stoukaph

all ive heard is that it will be a bit better than the GC graphics. hopefully its better than the ps2 and xbox graphics. but i would rather the developers work on gameplay rather than graphics.

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Better than PS2's graphics, are you kidding? Gamecube has better graphics than PS2 and looking at Super Mario Galaxy, it's graphics may be better than the Xbox and, in some cases, close to the Xbox 360's graphics.

I'm not sure about the PS3's graphics because so much of it's videos are not true gameplay, but I don't think they're that much better than the 360's.


*EDIT* It also depends on what you think good graphics are. Do you want realistic graphics like Hal-life 2 has or cool cel-shaded graphics like LOZ: WW and Sly Cooper? Both styles have their good points, in my opinion.

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Mr_Stoukaph

if sony is charging $600 for a PS3, the graphics should be better. if not im sure we might see sony fanboys go and slash the executives throats.

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[quote=NateTheGreat]Better than the PS2's graphics? Gamecube has better graphics than PS2 and looking at Super Mario Galaxy, it's graphics may be better than the Xbox and, in some cases, close to the Xbox 360's graphics.

yeah it has been said by many people that the GC has better graphics. And i have heard many rumors saying that its closer to the 360's graphics. I personally believe that it will be close to playing a 360 on a regular tv.

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wiiener

Actually, according to the wii's current specs, the graphics should be over the original xbox's graphics. if you dont believe me, compare the wii's specs to the xbox's (not the 360).

it is definatley better than the gc's, no worries there. It isnt that close to 360.

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taejien

wow thanks for all the replies. i never knew gc have better graphics than a ps2? or close?

like for example.. god of war.. will the wii have some games or graphics like that? now i know that nintendo doesn't really make games like those, more of on the gameplay games.. but j/w.

does anyone have screenshots of gc games with really good graphics since u guys said that it has better graphics than a ps2 so i know how it does compare to the ps2?

zoomer

Dude, PS2 graphics are horrid just trust us on this one. GC has better graphics in the majority of its games.

The Wii will have great graphics - you also have to understand too that good graphics in a game is heavily dependant on how much effort the game developer puts into making the graphics good. If you take a look at Red Steel, Mario Galaxy, or Smash Brawl you can see that these games are close to many of the 360 games out right now.

NateTheGreat

If you've ever played Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, a beautiful game, on the PS2 and then on the Gamecube, you'll see better colors, animations, lighting effects, etc. It's very difficult to find side-by-side pictures of the Gamecube and PS2 versions of games, so check out IGN's Top Ten Best Looking Gamecube Games. The pictures they have don't do them justice, so I would suggest watching the following videos of a few of these games: Metroid Prime2, Star Wars Rogue Squadron, F-Zero GX, and I can't believe they didn't put it on the list, Mario Sunshine.

Here are a few pics from that list (click to enlarge):







Also, check out this PS2 vs Gamecube vs Xbox review, which is very telling.

Since the PS2 came out before the Gamecube and Xbox, it doesn't have as good of graphics as either when it comes to games that release for all the consoles. However, there are some ugly Gamecube games and pretty PS2 games, but for the most part, the Gamecube is noticably better.

Hope that helps.

*NOTE* Some of these videos require Quicktime, so if you don't have that, download it here and get the free version; this post took me a while, so I sort of hope you actually watch the videos.

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wiiener

[quote=NateTheGreat]Since the PS2 came out before the Gamecube and Xbox, it doesn't have as good of graphics as either when it comes to games that release for all the consoles. However, there are some ugly Gamecube games and pretty PS2 games, but for the most part, the Gamecube is noticably better.[quote]

Exactly, i think most people forgot that the ps2 came out a year and a half before the gc and xbox. The ps2's graphics were the worst of the last gen consoles, however they did sell 32 million ps2's

i think xbox has sole like 12 million to date (the xbox really blew in japan and wasnt liked at all)

dont know about the GC

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Wikipedia says here that Nintendo sold 20.85 million Gamecubes as of March 2006.

Wikipedia also says here 24 million Xboxs were sold as of Q2 2006, but next to that number it says citation is needed, so that number is not for sure.

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Arcadium

I think wii graphics will be better than the 360 anyway, nintendo hasnt said anything about the wii graphic processor and I think it will be a very big surprise anyway

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wiiener

....... yes they have ...

and no they wont be as good as the 360's. MANY people have confirmed that. the only way they could be better than the 360's is if nintendo makes changes before release

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Mr_Stoukaph

heh, i doubt they will make changes now because theyve already started prodution on the wii (not contradicting you). i think the wii will have the worst graphics of this generation. but i dont care! im getting one for TPhehe

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NateTheGreat

If those graphics are better than Gamecube, which Nintendo said they will be, and atleast as good as Xbox, I'll be happy.

I never realized that it would be the weakest console when it comes to graphics this time around, sort of how the PS2 was the weakest last time. However, there are cool looking games like I've mentioned before: Sly Cooper, LOZ: Wind Waker, Katamari Damacy, older games like Rez, and upcoming games like Okami (which should totally be made for Wii; if you don't know about it, go here to get the basics and here to see a video).


None of these games are photo-realistic, but that doesn't mean they have bad graphics; they're just unique/stylized.

And we've all seen Metroid Prime: Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, and even the current-gen Resident Evil 4, so I'm guessing the weakest system graphically, Wii, will be able to stand on it's own when it comes to visuals.

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Mr_Stoukaph

some people call non-photo-realistic games crap because they think good graphics are how much it looks like real life. i dont know about anyone else, but im getting tired of the cel-shaded graphics like WW. i liked them at first, but now there are way too many LoZ games like it. im glad that TP will be more realistic this time.

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