Thinking of selling my Wii. How much you think I could get for it?

GamerCon · 07-24-2007, 11:56 AM

...I thought you said you havent.

mushroomedmario · 07-24-2007, 11:59 AM

i said i owned every previous nintendo system

my ps2 is downstairs i lack the motivation to play ffXII though

i want to finish zelda tp first lol

my psx unfortunatly broke after a month, so i don't consider it when i say what sytems i owned

i don't remember specifically saying i don't have either though,...

GypsyKid · 07-24-2007, 12:02 PM

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edit: ok good post gypsykid i just don't think that the wii having good developers would be a myth though

I didn't say Nintendo don't have good developers. They do! Worldclass! I just don't think they are better than the developers for PS3.

A lot of people tend to think that Nintendo has the best developers because of the fact that Nintendo is a truly legendary company that is responsible for some of the best games ever created. However, most of those games are old history now. Nintendo has a rate of coming out with maybe 3 classic games per console lifespan as developers. not only that...it's with the same damn franchises. Also, back then Nintendo had virtually no competition. They had Sega...that's it, and we all know what happened there. Sega couldn't beat them so they joined them.

PS3 Developers have a lot more classics and exclusives under their belt, and a lot more original and varying franchises. Not to mention a lot of sleeper classics. Those games that you never heard of but just happen to be on shelves outta nowhere and end up being incredible games.

Nintendo is good at what it does, has a loyal fanbase, etc. I'm not trying to completely bash them, but they put themselves in a position to be bashed by more serious gamers such as myself so they can get more favor and a lot more $$$ from the casual gamers, non gamers, families, social organizations, etc. etc.

Nintendo definitely made the best business sense. They are raking it in. However there was a huge cost to pay, and I think that was the loss of great games in favor of more dumbed down non offensive no risk gameplay.

GamerCon · 07-24-2007, 12:03 PM

My bad, kinda lol. I remember you saying you would only own one console so I thought you would get a 64 and no PS, gc no PS2, Wii no PS3. Ah sorry.

But really, FFXII? I dont even care for that game. Should look into some good games, rather cheap now.

mushroomedmario · 07-24-2007, 12:09 PM

i don't know i think that since nintendo is making money they'll put more money into developing good games, but to be honest, they haven't had any news on disaster or project hammer, two games i was looking forward too...

@gamercon
besides my third NES(that i bought at a garage sale) the wii is the only console that i specifically bought, my parents bought my other 2 NES's and an SNES and my brothers bought the rest

i was thinking of getting into god of war, but i have a tight gaming schedule(hehe)

Fox · 07-24-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyKid

I didn't say Nintendo don't have good developers. They do! Worldclass! I just don't think they are better than the developers for PS3.

A lot of people tend to think that Nintendo has the best developers because of the fact that Nintendo is a truly legendary company that is responsible for some of the best games ever created. However, most of those games are old history now. Nintendo has a rate of coming out with maybe 3 classic games per console lifespan as developers. not only that...it's with the same damn franchises. Also, back then Nintendo had virtually no competition. They had Sega...that's it, and we all know what happened there. Sega couldn't beat them so they joined them.

PS3 Developers have a lot more classics and exclusives under their belt, and a lot more original and varying franchises. Not to mention a lot of sleeper classics. Those games that you never heard of but just happen to be on shelves outta nowhere and end up being incredible games.

Nintendo is good at what it does, has a loyal fanbase, etc. I'm not trying to completely bash them, but they put themselves in a position to be bashed by more serious gamers such as myself so they can get more favor and a lot more $$$ from the casual gamers, non gamers, families, social organizations, etc. etc.

Nintendo definitely made the best business sense. They are raking it in. However there was a huge cost to pay, and I think that was the loss of great games in favor of more dumbed down non offensive no risk gameplay.

Just to clear this up, Sony Defeated Dreamcast with the DVD player in the PS2, SEGA, at the time, was on top of nintendo. Sony beat SEGA in the console wars, and now SEGA develops software for all systems.
If that help'd, you're welcome.

gunsnroses · 07-24-2007, 08:26 PM

dude at least 600 i mean wow what a collection

CantGetAWii · 07-25-2007, 08:34 AM

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I already know what the Wii has to offer and it is not up my alley. We all know what is coming down the pipeline pretty much, and I'm not really interested.

BTW just cause something sells like hotcakes doesn't mean it's good. MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Britney Spears CD's sold like hot cakes. Now those items are complete jokes. Right now Wii is more like faddish piece of gaming..not much else. I want next gen damnit.

Until you've experienced what the PS3 has to offer you really have no clue. Not to mention they are the only system that is going to get truly next gen games. But hey, at least the kiddies and the grandparents will always be able to play the Wii for 20 minutes and then they get bored of it too.

I had even a non-gaming friend come over who was more interested in the Wii cause of all the hype and the new type of controllers. After being able to play and see what the differrent systems were about and what kind of games were coming out for each...even he was like..."screw the Wii" and his attention was focused on the PS3 quite intently without much regard for the Wii. I could tell by the way he even looked at it that he was disapponted. Right then and there I knew he understood how I felt when I had my realization about the PS3.

I've never been a PS fan. I was nintendo all the way, than original XBox. Now that I look at what kind of games have been coming out for the PS2 that I missed and the games coming for the PS3...I'm floored. The Playstation has by far the greatest library with the coolest and best games.

All I can say about Nintendo is been there done that. Even with the Wiimote. Now I can say "been there done that" and shake a stick at it...and the stick will respond on-screen. Big deal.

If I need excercise I think I'd rather go outside. If I want to play games I'm going to play the best system out there...PS3

Sorry but my friend, chu dumb.
You don't know what the Wii has to offer, no one can say they do know. Seriously. BTW the artists you mentioned, yeah sorry but Nintendo doesn't rip off people, and pop out 3 babies a year.
And Ps3 the only system with next generation games

..ok and oh yeah enjoy your tilt and no rumble on your Ps3.
Now I don't know your friend, but being a non-gamer he knows nothing, also just because he doesn't look at the wii the same way he does at you, that is not my fault and sorry but those games coming out for Ps3..Killzone 2?..may look nice, but can't say the same about the gameplay. By the way the Ps3 has one of the worst libraries out there, 360's is much better.
I also don't recall a game where you "shake a stick" and the Wii is not just about exercise, like c'mon, but we all know you don't get any anyways.

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You got it wrong again fella. The reason YOU don't get it is cause you don't really know much about the PS3 do you?

Developers are going to Wii...for a short little while...to make that quick cash while it's still a hot item. The Wii's potential is pretty limited. If you do some research you will find that developers are continually hitting ceilings with the systems. Which means they are reaching or reached the limit of what they can do, and don't have enough power and space to take things to the truly next level.

Now what does that mean for the games they develop? It means they are continually compromised in most cases. You are not getting the best that is possible because you are getting something that is a huge compromise from the developers point of view. On top of that each new game at that point is usually just a re-iteration of games from the past.

The PS3 doesn't have that problem as of yet for developers. Look at the games that are coming out for PS3. They are mindblowing both graphically and gameplay wise. There isn't a single Wii game that can top the PS3 exclusives. Metroid, mario, SSMB, none of those can hold a candle to LAIR, MGS4 etc on ANY level. Those games are just way too advanced for Wii.

I don't have to prove anything cause this post will be here for years and years. When the cap is reached for what Wii and 360 can do, and the developers creativity in making Wiimote, nunchuck, or a million other peripherals to work in new interesting ways gets depleted, and the PS3 games are kicking complete butt and the system STILL won't have reached it's potential...everyone will be running to PS3. The PS3 system is on a 10 year plan. I'm guessing the Wii is on more like 3-5 year plan.

The PS3 is a very LOOOONG range system with a lot more potential in every single way. With the complete adaptability and versatility of the machine do you honestly think that Sony isn't cable of putting out peripherals and games that will put the wiimote and nunchuck to absolute shame as well as continue to do what they are currently doing?

The same can't be said about the Wii. The Wii can never have the graphic or physics capability, the storage space required to program not only better graphics but BETTER AND MORE COMPLEX GAMING CODE. 8 gigs of storage space per disc versus 50 gigs is a HUGE difference in gaming. More code space means the potential to do A LOT more with the games.

See I'm not a small picture thinking kinda guy. I don't care that Wii is getting some developers to make some games for a year or two. I don't care that Nintendo is going to continually re-hash mario, and zelda, and samus, and whatever characters they had for 20 years ad nauseum.

Regardless, no matter what you think, there will always be developers working for PS3 looking to make the best possible games...not churn out BS games as fast as possible just to make a fast buck and capitalize on a current trend.

Plus...swinging wiimotes and chucks does get boring....quick. Now if people get sick of the Wiimote games after a year or two and people just want to go back to playing games using a regular controller, which I'm guessing is what will happen, is Wii going to be able to go an make some fantastic regular controller based games that won't seem like the caveman ages compared to the PS3? No, cause they can't. It's physically impossible for them to do so. The gameplay and looks will just be too outdated.

Anyways, I'll stop babbling here. So that the guy who accused me of babbling can go on and babble himself in a less informed and intelligent way and prove even less than I ever could.

Wow, you just don't stop do you. Many developers are coming to Wii because
they see potential in the system, clearly. And sorry but the ps3 does not have good gameplay. And you keep talking about rehashing games..hmm Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 wow groundbreaking stuff, just because Nintendo has been out more does not make what sony is doing different.

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Originally Posted by Gypsykid

I didn't say Nintendo don't have good developers. They do! Worldclass! I just don't think they are better than the developers for PS3.

A lot of people tend to think that Nintendo has the best developers because of the fact that Nintendo is a truly legendary company that is responsible for some of the best games ever created. However, most of those games are old history now. Nintendo has a rate of coming out with maybe 3 classic games per console lifespan as developers. not only that...it's with the same damn franchises. Also, back then Nintendo had virtually no competition. They had Sega...that's it, and we all know what happened there. Sega couldn't beat them so they joined them.

PS3 Developers have a lot more classics and exclusives under their belt, and a lot more original and varying franchises. Not to mention a lot of sleeper classics. Those games that you never heard of but just happen to be on shelves outta nowhere and end up being incredible games.

Nintendo is good at what it does, has a loyal fanbase, etc. I'm not trying to completely bash them, but they put themselves in a position to be bashed by more serious gamers such as myself so they can get more favor and a lot more $$$ from the casual gamers, non gamers, families, social organizations, etc. etc.

Nintendo definitely made the best business sense. They are raking it in. However there was a huge cost to pay, and I think that was the loss of great games in favor of more dumbed down non offensive no risk gameplay.

Again another dumb fanboy post will false info. 3 classic games for Nintendo systems..ok well Zelda is one already, then we have Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros. Brawl there is four already. Plus another Zelda..so 5 at least. Wrong again you are. Also the hits are rehashed games, ok let us look at Ps3's "hits"..Killzone 2, MGS4..not rehashed at all..no way. a lot more classics and exclusives on the ps3, yeah thats why many games are shooters and can be found on the xbox 360

And where does your info come from?..Sega lost to Ps2 of all people I thought you would have known that and dream about that every night, wether the dream is wet or dry who's to say. Sega lost to the dvd player, and makes games for everyone.

You probably have more dumb posts on the other pages, but sell your wii, go to ps3 chat so I never have to read your lame posts again ok?

Why The Ps3 Isn't selling.....

There have been numerous reports around the web the last couple of days of many stores having PS3s by the stacks and many people are surprised that a next-gen console could be found easily this close after its launch. However, when you think about the environment that the PS3 debuted in it really is no surprise that it isn’t breaking the sales records that many analysts predicted. Here are some reasons why the PS3 isn’t selling as well as people thought it would.
Families want to play together.

Gaming has become a national past time in many households, but unfortunately many families also feel a disconnect because of gaming. Kids usually lock themselves in their rooms to play the latest games while parents wonder how they can spend more time with the kids. I’ve heard of parents trying to get into gaming, but there is such a strong disconnect between hardcore games and casual games that often times they simply give up. Enter the Nintendo Wii.

When Nintendo made it known that they were targeting casual gamers this also meant people who never really got into gaming because it didn’t appeal to them. Seeing how Nintendo Sports works and its hard for any parent to pass it up thinking of how great it would be to finally play a game that the whole family can get involved in. Instead of creating a next-gen console, Nintendo has created the new dinner table for the 21st century.
All my friends have a 360.

With multiplayer gaming on the rise, gamers want to play with their friends and of the three next-gen consoles out, most people will have the 360. Mix that in with the perfection that is Xbox Live and the 360 becomes one of the default gaming systems to get any gamer. I know that is a bold statement, but you already have a deep library of games and if you are going to compare the PS3 with the 360 you will see that the graphics and games aren’t any different at the moment.

People follow the crowds and currently the crowds are on Xbox Live.
Nobody cares about Blu-ray.

Okay, more than nobody cares about Blu-ray, but with the PS3 using Blue-ray it quickly became the main selling point for a system that’s main function is to play games. Looking at a HD-DVD or a Blu-ray disc on a conventional television and you won’t notice any difference than the image from a standard DVD. The majority of homes are still using conventional televisions and don’t have the entertainment setups that fully utilize all the features that Blu-ray offers.

Sure it is cheaper than a standalone Blu-ray player, but when those aren’t selling, what makes people think that they will sell on a video game console?
PS2 is too strong.

I think anyone will admit that the PS2 won the last console race and there are still great games being released for it so if you are a Playstation fanboy what reason do you really have to rush out and get a PS3 when you still have a very capable system and a huge collection of great games available? The Wii is simply better than the Gamecube through game mechanics and the Xbox 360 has been out long enough that if you are a Microsoft lover there is no reason to stick with the original Xbox besides to play games that aren’t backwards compatible.

Sony mistakenly believed that the success of the PS2 would translate over to the PS3 when this obviously was not the case.
$600 for a DVD player.

If you are going for the 60gb version you will have to fork over $600 for the system. If you are looking to get another controller and a game you are starting to look at $700 just to go home with something you can play. Parents are only so stupid and love their children only so much before realizing they can get more bang for their buck somewhere else.
What the future holds.

This doesn’t mean that the PS3 is a bust because it is simply too early to tell. With over 750,000 units sold during the holiday season you definitely can’t call it a failure. However, for everyone expecting great things still in Sony’s future because of exclusives you have to keep in mind that no publisher likes to give exclusives to any game console unless it is the leader of the pack. With so many Wiis and 360s out there in the market it will be hard for Sony to keep all of their exclusive titles exclusive and therefore giving people less of a reason to buy it.

There is a long way to go before we can declare a winner for this generation of the console wars, but I can guarantee this round will be much more interesting than the last one.

xIcaruSx · 07-25-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tails McCloud~

Just to clear this up, Sony Defeated Dreamcast with the DVD player in the PS2, SEGA, at the time, was on top of nintendo. Sony beat SEGA in the console wars, and now SEGA develops software for all systems.
If that help'd, you're welcome.

Sounds like bullshit pulled from Wikipedia. The dreamcast failed because of the Saturn.

Sega stopped production on the Dreamcast just 2 months into the PS2's release. It had nothing to do with the PS2. They were unable to procure any developers because of what happened with the Saturn, such as EA who dropped out with Sega.

So don't continue to spread false bs please.

wiizorer · 07-25-2007, 11:35 AM

why would you sell your wii? have you ever played it drunk?

GypsyKid · 07-25-2007, 05:55 PM

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Sorry but my friend, chu dumb.
You don't know what the Wii has to offer, no one can say they do know. Seriously. BTW the artists you mentioned, yeah sorry but Nintendo doesn't rip off people, and pop out 3 babies a year.

How ****in stupid you are. Don't even understand the point of analogies do you? Well how about this. nintendo rips off gamers by making games for babies .....how's that bitch? hahaha

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And Ps3 the only system with next generation games

..ok and oh yeah enjoy your tilt and no rumble on your Ps3.

I enjoy it very much. dumbass. cause it's THE GAMES that are absolutely INCREDIBLE. BTW Sony is working on getting a new advanced rumble. The current six axis isn't the be all and end all. God your dumb and misinformed. I can tell you really are just jealous of the PS3 aren't you and can't face reality. Rumble doesn't make games, but when the rumble does come out for PS3 it's going to be way better and a more intelligent rumble that's in the wiimote. Go do some research on it.

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Now I don't know your friend, but being a non-gamer he knows nothing, also just because he doesn't look at the wii the same way he does at you,

My male friends don't look at me with lust the way you and your male friends look at each other...HOMO. No wonder you haven't played the PS3. You're too busy playing with your friends wii wii.

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that is not my fault and sorry but those games coming out for Ps3..Killzone 2?..may look nice, but can't say the same about the gameplay.

That's cause you HAVEN'T PLAYED THEM. You've never played any PS3 game. I can tell your just a jealous asshole hating on something you don't or can't have. The PS3 games have the best controls right now. very smooth... Kill every nintendo product past and present. I'm very happy with the PS3 thank you. In fact I'm so ****in pleased with everything that I'm considering selling the Wii. It's hot gimicky garbage compared to PS3 I know...I own both and have quite a few games for both. I can actually compare first hand in my own time. Not just cry and defend something on a forums cause someone hurt my ego by saying something about my all precious Wii.

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By the way the Ps3 has one of the worst libraries out there, 360's is much better.

You are even dumber than I thought because I know how you think now, and OHH LAWWWD this boy is dumb. Your confusing quality with quantity. The PS3 games including the ones just about to drop are incredibly better on every level than anything on xbox. I'm not talking about cross platform games..I'm talking exclusives. Resistance, motorstorm, LAIR, MGS4, Final Fantasy. all KILL the xbox and Wii exclusives.

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I also don't recall a game where you "shake a stick" and the Wii is not just about exercise, like c'mon, but we all know you don't get any anyways.

Every damn wii game is shake a stick dumbass. cmon. Excercise? Who needs excercise when I got the best gaming system on the planet (PS3) and a few girls to enjoy...catch my drift? I'm happy as a clam.

you on the other hand are probably 120 pounds soaking wet and still a virgin, so go get that excercise and don't forget to get beefed up you lil bitch boy.

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Wow, you just don't stop do you. Many developers are coming to Wii because
they see potential in the system, clearly.

No they aren't. They are coming to make a fast buck. All the developers knew all about the Wii probably years in advance. Most DID NOT SEE THE POTENTIAL AND DIDN"T THINK IT WOULD CATCH ON THAT IS WHY THEY WEREN'T THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Your not only stupid, but naive as all hell. Developers aren't altruistic people that just want to make great games and become legendary. THEY ARE BUSINESSES MAKING AND SELLING A PRODUCT. if the Wii was so great they would have been on board right from the beginning wouldn't they if the Wii was so great and special right? They only jumped on when it started selling lots of units. It;s selling lots of units because of the marketing. Marketing to an untapped demographic....fresh meat...bitch.

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And sorry but the ps3 does not have good gameplay. And you keep talking about rehashing games..hmm Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 wow groundbreaking stuff, just because Nintendo has been out more does not make what sony is doing different.

How can you comment on something you've never played? It sounds like your just trying to put it down cause you can't afford it. You no absolutely nothing about it cause you haven't really experienced it. I can tell. Don't try to bullshit me on that one either. Your one of those sore loser types that hates what he can't have. Pathetic.

As far as rehashing old games? At least Sony is truly taking those games to the next level in every possible way. Not only that...they are developing a lot more NEW franchises for every one that they make a sequel to. With Nintendo they are truly rehashing, with Sony...they are taking it to the next level. There's no ifs ands or buts about it.

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Again another dumb fanboy post will false info. 3 classic games for Nintendo systems..ok well Zelda is one already, then we have Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros. Brawl there is four already. Plus another Zelda..so 5 at least. Wrong again you are.

Oh big deal I was one off. go **** yourself. Zelda TP was gamecube game. regardless it's just sequels to the games that came out on the last system aren't they? That was my point you retard. That would be cool if they had more great classic games to offer but they DON'T ahahahaha

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Also the hits are rehashed games, ok let us look at Ps3's "hits"..Killzone 2, MGS4..not rehashed at all..no way. a lot more classics and exclusives on the ps3, yeah thats why many games are shooters and can be found on the xbox 360

Again mis info. Playstation has the biggest and best libray of games across all of it's systems. They encapsulate the best of every genre you can imagine. PS3 is only going to further that legacy and you know it. SO **** off. There is a big difference between what you HOPE will happen, and will actually happen. Your a total loser and there is no way what you hope will happen with the PS3 will come to pass.

This is how stupid you are...xbox has mostly shooters. That was never Sony's claim to fame dumbass. In fact like I already mentioned...Sony has many classics and great games in every single genre of gaming. Go look at your favourite game store and see the breadth of playstation games in comparison to any other console....you might as well call every game store a Playstation store that happens to sell some other console games as well. Playstation 3 has only came out less than a year ago. Already they are talking about tons of games that are currently in development that all sound great, whereas Nintendo is talking about maybe as much as I can count on my hand, and almost all of those are sequels.

Again look around and do your research. Your obviously living in your own little Mii bubble.

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And where does your info come from?..Sega lost to Ps2 of all people I thought you would have known that and dream about that every night, wether the dream is wet or dry who's to say. Sega lost to the dvd player, and makes games for everyone.

Actually you short sighted freak. Nintendo was slowly killing SEGA since the NES and the Sega Master System. Sony came along and finished the job quickly. Since I was there when it was only those two and Sony was the new kid on the block I see it for what it was...the big picture. Nintendo always won against sega. Sony was just the nail in the coffin.

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You probably have more dumb posts on the other pages, but sell your wii, go to ps3 chat so I never have to read your lame posts again ok?

Actually jealous fanboy...it would be me that would benifit. I mean not having to deal with petty jealous little wii wii fanboys like yourself that will defend Nintendo tooth and nail and make up every excuse in the book why PS3 sucks first without even playing and experiencing it, 2nd without doing the proper up to date research on it, and 3rd...CLEARLY NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE REALITY. 4th so involved with their consoles and brand loyalty that they are clearly brainwashed and blind to just about everything else except the great infallible Nintendo. You faggots really need to give me, yourselves, and everyone else a break on this shit.

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Why The Ps3 Isn't selling.....

PS3 is selling just fine by last reports. All people needed was a price break to get the system they REALLY want.

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There have been numerous reports around the web the last couple of days of many stores having PS3s by the stacks and many people are surprised that a next-gen console could be found easily this close after its launch. However, when you think about the environment that the PS3 debuted in it really is no surprise that it isn’t breaking the sales records that many analysts predicted.

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