Nintendo's secret double strategy?

Sovieto · 10-13-2007, 06:05 PM

I'm starting to think Nintendo is running a double strategy. It makes sense to me and explains a lot.
First, Nintendo is obviously holding back production on Wiis, there is no excuse for them not producing enough Wiis. But now, the people who want Wiis are getting them.
Whos getting them? The people looking forward to games like SSBB, Mario, and Metroid.
Now, the launch of the Wii for example, we were promised Zelda, MP3, and Mario Galaxy within launch week I believe. We haven't even seen MP3 since last E3 and then we expect them to have it...and Mario, ready for release during the Wiis release window?! or, were they planning to delay it.
Hear me out, people before launch would go online, read all about the Wii and all these awesome games coming out. Then they get it set through their mind that they want a Wii and don't bother looking for more info (this is obviously not the most of the people on these forums). Later, those games they wanted are delayed but do they know that? no, games usually come out on the date they are announced to.
So then this person buys this Wii, and like many people, get bored with it cause they don't have all the games they wanted. This was the first huge wave of Wii owners we saw.
Now is the second wave, MP3, Mario, and SSBB?! 3 great titles, 2 were already delayed by a year so people might find it extremely strange a game is delayed twice.
So then, people hear about this craze over the Wii then go online, see SSBB, the possibly (and imo) the biggest title for the Wii, is coming out this winter! They know they want that Wii, and again, go on with their lives. So its winter, they buy that Wii, and find out no SSBB. This time around though they are a little more satisfied with the other games.

So is Nintendo running a strategy to give out release dates, then silently delay them to work along with not having enough units out for the ultimate entertainment buzz?

I think it only makes sense, there are other delayed games, such as BWii, which was suppose to come out last March I believe.

Also, if you post on this thread defending Nintendo--why? they're the ones delaying the games you want, you can't give them ALL the breaks can you?

Foxy · 10-13-2007, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sovieto

I'm starting to think Nintendo is running a double strategy. It makes sense to me and explains a lot.
First, Nintendo is obviously holding back production on Wiis, there is no excuse for them not producing enough Wiis. But now, the people who want Wiis are getting them.
Whos getting them? The people looking forward to games like SSBB, Mario, and Metroid.
Now, the launch of the Wii for example, we were promised Zelda, MP3, and Mario Galaxy within launch week I believe. We haven't even seen MP3 since last E3 and then we expect them to have it...and Mario, ready for release during the Wiis release window?! or, were they planning to delay it.
Hear me out, people before launch would go online, read all about the Wii and all these awesome games coming out. Then they get it set through their mind that they want a Wii and don't bother looking for more info (this is obviously not the most of the people on these forums). Later, those games they wanted are delayed but do they know that? no, games usually come out on the date they are announced to.
So then this person buys this Wii, and like many people, get bored with it cause they don't have all the games they wanted. This was the first huge wave of Wii owners we saw.
Now is the second wave, MP3, Mario, and SSBB?! 3 great titles, 2 were already delayed by a year so people might find it extremely strange a game is delayed twice.
So then, people hear about this craze over the Wii then go online, see SSBB, the possibly (and imo) the biggest title for the Wii, is coming out this winter! They know they want that Wii, and again, go on with their lives. So its winter, they buy that Wii, and find out no SSBB. This time around though they are a little more satisfied with the other games.

So is Nintendo running a strategy to give out release dates, then silently delay them to work along with not having enough units out for the ultimate entertainment buzz?

I think it only makes sense, there are other delayed games, such as BWii, which was suppose to come out last March I believe.

Also, if you post on this thread defending Nintendo--why? they're the ones delaying the games you want, you can't give them ALL the breaks can you?

Last march it was the revolution...?

Fox · 10-13-2007, 06:25 PM

Makes sense, I mean Nintendo is trying to suck SSBB fans in with the site and keep 'em interested, while delaying it over and over again. All the while selling Wii's off the hype.
Bunch of scam artists
good thread

LevesqueIsKing · 10-13-2007, 06:26 PM

^No it wasn't, it was the revolution a year from last march.

Anyway, while your idea is possible, its pretty far-fetched. Nintendo has always been a company thats put the consumer first and its going to be very hard for the people of WiiChat to accept this idea, whether it be true or false. You aren't going to get the responses you are hoping for.

Foxy · 10-13-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LevesqueIsKing

^No it wasn't, it was the revolution a year from last march.

Anyway, while your idea is possible, its pretty far-fetched. Nintendo has always been a company thats put the consumer first and its going to be very hard for the people of WiiChat to accept this idea, whether it be true or false. You aren't going to get the responses you are hoping for.

Last march to me = 2006

This march to me = 2007

Meh, Nintendo aims for the casual, I dont think they expect much of a hardcore following to release dates and everything.

They always hide delays with something sweet tasting to cover it up.

Fox · 10-13-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LevesqueIsKing

^No it wasn't, it was the revolution a year from last march.

Anyway, while your idea is possible, its pretty far-fetched. Nintendo has always been a company thats put the consumer first and its going to be very hard for the people of WiiChat to accept this idea, whether it be true or false. You aren't going to get the responses you are hoping for.

Weather that be true or not Nintendo pisses poeple off with it either way.

LevesqueIsKing · 10-13-2007, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.McCloud

Last march to me = 2006

This march to me = 2007

Meh, Nintendo aims for the casual, I dont think they expect much of a hardcore following to release dates and everything.

They always hide delays with something sweet tasting to cover it up.

Exactly. Someone knows what they're talking about.

Online/Online Co-op/Tons of characters revealed/Tons of Snake updates/Tons of videos/Sonic announced=Brawl Delayed

Foxy · 10-13-2007, 06:35 PM

We Stole a Sony Exclusive = Just a wee bit extra to soften blows

Monster Hunter FTW.

They done the same with mario kart, 12 online, bikes, videos.

dakuda · 10-13-2007, 06:37 PM

No company intentionally slows down production on a product. You lose out on sales that way. It makes no business sense.

LevesqueIsKing · 10-13-2007, 06:39 PM

^You are kidding, right? Many businesses do this to keep demand high. It keeps the name circulating and stops demand from dipping.

No wii's=everyone wants one=everyones talking about it=more people want one

Fox · 10-13-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakuda

No company intentionally slows down production on a product. You lose out on sales that way. It makes no business sense.

Thats true, and delays makes the consumers tgat are kind of iffy about it say nevermind. I keep hearing "delays make it a better game", but they've delayed it so many times, that it's just agrovating and annoying now.

Sovieto · 10-13-2007, 06:42 PM

yes when i wrote last march i meant for march this year but i too thought it could mean march of 06 too. but if i said this march or march thatd sound present or future tense to me.

dakuda · 10-13-2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LevesqueIsKing

^You are kidding, right? Many businesses do this to keep demand high. It keeps the name circulating and stops demand from dipping.

No wii's=everyone wants one=everyones talking about it=more people want one

Demand fades. It is better to sell as much as possible, as quickly as possible, before the demand is no longer there.

They may not be able to keep up with demand, but to actually slow it down on purpose is stupid.

LevesqueIsKing · 10-13-2007, 06:46 PM

It is a risky situation, but if they know what they're doing they can make a ton of money.

In the consumers mind, rarity=value

dakuda · 10-13-2007, 06:51 PM

A company doing that would shoot themselves in the foot.

LevesqueIsKing · 10-13-2007, 06:58 PM

So, then you are assuming that this is as quick as nintendo can feed these things out? They are still in demand just about EVERYWHERE.

You seriously think that nintendo is making them as fast as they can?

dakuda · 10-13-2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LevesqueIsKing

So, then you are assuming that this is as quick as nintendo can feed these things out? They are still in demand just about EVERYWHERE.

You seriously think that nintendo is making them as fast as they can?

Yes, within their current manufacturing capacity. Increasing the manufacturing capacity is extremely expensive and then you are stuck with it once demand dies down.

Basic economics: study it.

Marioman · 10-13-2007, 07:09 PM

dakuda I think the others have a good point...It would raise more money the way sovieto explained...while also bringing in more people to the wii market and giving them more time to work on the games they have delayed to make them better than they would have been

dakuda · 10-13-2007, 07:13 PM

It would not work in the real world. It doesn't matter how many people here agree with the post, it would just not work.

The delays on the games are unrelated to the system demand. Games are always delayed. It is the nature of the business.

Sovieto · 10-13-2007, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakuda

A company doing that would shoot themselves in the foot.

but they are doing it and its successfull.
im pretty sure most consoles sell their the most in the first couple years then after that its just accumulation. so now would be the time to do it.

10-13-2007, 06:05 PM	#1
Sovieto Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,806 Friends: 0	Nintendo's secret double strategy? I'm starting to think Nintendo is running a double strategy. It makes sense to me and explains a lot. First, Nintendo is obviously holding back production on Wiis, there is no excuse for them not producing enough Wiis. But now, the people who want Wiis are getting them. Whos getting them? The people looking forward to games like SSBB, Mario, and Metroid. Now, the launch of the Wii for example, we were promised Zelda, MP3, and Mario Galaxy within launch week I believe. We haven't even seen MP3 since last E3 and then we expect them to have it...and Mario, ready for release during the Wiis release window?! or, were they planning to delay it. Hear me out, people before launch would go online, read all about the Wii and all these awesome games coming out. Then they get it set through their mind that they want a Wii and don't bother looking for more info (this is obviously not the most of the people on these forums). Later, those games they wanted are delayed but do they know that? no, games usually come out on the date they are announced to. So then this person buys this Wii, and like many people, get bored with it cause they don't have all the games they wanted. This was the first huge wave of Wii owners we saw. Now is the second wave, MP3, Mario, and SSBB?! 3 great titles, 2 were already delayed by a year so people might find it extremely strange a game is delayed twice. So then, people hear about this craze over the Wii then go online, see SSBB, the possibly (and imo) the biggest title for the Wii, is coming out this winter! They know they want that Wii, and again, go on with their lives. So its winter, they buy that Wii, and find out no SSBB. This time around though they are a little more satisfied with the other games. So is Nintendo running a strategy to give out release dates, then silently delay them to work along with not having enough units out for the ultimate entertainment buzz? I think it only makes sense, there are other delayed games, such as BWii, which was suppose to come out last March I believe. Also, if you post on this thread defending Nintendo--why? they're the ones delaying the games you want, you can't give them ALL the breaks can you? __________________ Everything in this signature except for this text was made by Wiired, he is my creator and almighty.

10-13-2007, 06:25 PM	#3
Fox Super Mοderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Net Slum Posts: 5,016 Friends: 20 2625-5585-1810-7837 Blog Entries: 9	Makes sense, I mean Nintendo is trying to suck SSBB fans in with the site and keep 'em interested, while delaying it over and over again. All the while selling Wii's off the hype. Bunch of scam artists good thread __________________ All Hail Old KU Rock Chalk Jayhawk WiiChat Forum Moderator Need help with anything, PM me. [HD] Gamertag:Fox121488 Wii:Fox PSNID:Fox121488 Platinum: 0775 0129 9619 Pearl: 4210 0807 0259 Diamond: 4898 3842 6181 Ganondorf Champion* Last edited by Fox; 10-13-2007 at 06:28 PM.

10-13-2007, 06:26 PM	#4
LevesqueIsKing An Instant Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	^No it wasn't, it was the revolution a year from last march. Anyway, while your idea is possible, its pretty far-fetched. Nintendo has always been a company thats put the consumer first and its going to be very hard for the people of WiiChat to accept this idea, whether it be true or false. You aren't going to get the responses you are hoping for. __________________ Not to fit a mold, Not to join a trend, Not to follow a crowd

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10-13-2007, 06:39 PM	#10
LevesqueIsKing An Instant Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	^You are kidding, right? Many businesses do this to keep demand high. It keeps the name circulating and stops demand from dipping. No wii's=everyone wants one=everyones talking about it=more people want one __________________ Not to fit a mold, Not to join a trend, Not to follow a crowd

10-13-2007, 06:42 PM	#12
Sovieto Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,806 Friends: 0	yes when i wrote last march i meant for march this year but i too thought it could mean march of 06 too. but if i said this march or march thatd sound present or future tense to me. __________________ Everything in this signature except for this text was made by Wiired, he is my creator and almighty.

10-13-2007, 06:46 PM	#14
LevesqueIsKing An Instant Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	It is a risky situation, but if they know what they're doing they can make a ton of money. In the consumers mind, rarity=value __________________ Not to fit a mold, Not to join a trend, Not to follow a crowd

10-13-2007, 06:51 PM	#15
dakuda WiiChat Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 649 Friends: 0 0000-0000-0000-0000	A company doing that would shoot themselves in the foot. __________________ You can do things the right way or the wrong way. Or you can do it MY way...which is like the wrong way, only faster. Wii Sports \| Wii Play \| The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess \| Super Paper Mario The Godfather: Blackhand Edition \| Madden 07 \| Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree Super Mario Galaxy \| Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 \| Zach and Wiki \| Battallion Wars II

10-13-2007, 06:58 PM	#16
LevesqueIsKing An Instant Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	So, then you are assuming that this is as quick as nintendo can feed these things out? They are still in demand just about EVERYWHERE. You seriously think that nintendo is making them as fast as they can? __________________ Not to fit a mold, Not to join a trend, Not to follow a crowd

10-13-2007, 07:09 PM	#18
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dakuda WiiChat Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 649 Friends: 0 0000-0000-0000-0000	It would not work in the real world. It doesn't matter how many people here agree with the post, it would just not work. The delays on the games are unrelated to the system demand. Games are always delayed. It is the nature of the business. __________________ You can do things the right way or the wrong way. Or you can do it MY way...which is like the wrong way, only faster. Wii Sports \| Wii Play \| The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess \| Super Paper Mario The Godfather: Blackhand Edition \| Madden 07 \| Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree Super Mario Galaxy \| Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 \| Zach and Wiki \| Battallion Wars II

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