Wii Chat Forums


 
 
Extras

Nintendo Wii Forum > Nintendo Wii Forums > Nintendo Wii Chat » The pleasures of gaming with Nintendo


Welcome to the Nintendo Wii Forum.

Wii Chat is the largest Unofficial Nintendo Wii community, with the latest Wii news and articles alongside upto the minute Wii gaming and hardware discussion.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, by joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload your own photos and access many other special features.


Sign Up today and these ads will disappear!



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-10-2006, 09:31 PM  
SolitoN
Junior Member
SolitoN is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3

The pleasures of gaming with Nintendo

I've been playing videogames for a long time...The games for the 8-bit Nintendo set my imagination on fire, and over the course of the 19 years since I first played them, my search for entertainment has led me to enjoy gaming on as many platforms (except X-Box) as I can, and to sample games from all genres at least once.

So you can definetely classify me as a hard-core gamer.

I remember that the controllers for the 8-bit Nintendo, as well as for all subsequent Nintendo consoles, were well-designed (except for the Gamecube -- yeech), comfortable, intuitive and rugged. I NEVER once had to purchase another controller after my initial purchase of the console it came with. The games had great gameplay and stories that were imaginative, fun and interesting (Faxanadu, the Zelda series, Contra, Metroid, etc, etc) Even as an 8 year old child, I could see that Nintendo was a company that aimed to entertain to the fullest.

The Sony Computer Entertainment Corporation, on the other hand, is about profit and market acquisition strategies and, in its ruthless pursuit of those, is willing to exploit gamers as much as they'll allow. Sony truly turned gaming into a business -- and for that I'll never forgive them.

The reason for the high-price of the PS3? Market acquisition.

As most people know, blu-ray is a new technology, and new technologies don't start off cheap to manufacture, so when that technology is new, customers pay outrageous prices i.e. $1000 for a stand-alone blu-ray player. But not PS3 customers...Why? Because Sony stands to grab a larger chunk of the high definition player market by using its already established gaming market as a springboard.

So, even though you and me might not want a blu-ray player...and why would you, by the way? The format conflict between it and HD-DVD ISN'T resolved, and it's most likely neither one will win, as third-party manufacturers will find common ground either in media or hardware. Nonethelss, we are forced to buy one, and Sony has the audacity to state that we are getting a deal, since we only pay between $500-600 dollars AND we get a gaming console. The problem with this reasoning is what I've just mentioned above -- most likely, third-parties will bridge the conflict, and thus, there won't BE any advantage in getting a blu-ray player cheap, since hardware will either support both formats, or new media will. Thus, Sony is trying to fool us into PAYING for their acquisition of the market and, when blu-ray doesn't win the fight, we're the ones who end up losing our cash, as Sony made us the fight sponsor wihout even asking us.

Some might argue at this point that the high price of the PS3 is also influenced by the Cell processor. I'll admit, it's a POSSIBILITY, since I haven't looked into the manufacturing and development costs, but since IBM has done most of the research, and that they stand to gain a lot of cash by including their chip in embedded systems, I doubt very much the costs to Sony were high enough to raise the price of the PS3 to where it is now.

The reason I mentioned Nintendo and its practices at the beginning of this post was so that these practices could be contrasted with Sony'.

The PS2 had disc-read errors from the beginning (which turned out to be caused by manufacturing defects), and the company' response was to remain obstinate until a class action lawsuit was filed. So, they messed up the manufacturing, but we should pay for it? The courts gave their opinion on that, and consumers got justice.

The price of the PS2 also remained static right up until the PS3 launch, showcasing Sony' ability to milk us for all we're worth.

The controllers Sony churns out are of poor quality; I had to buy THREE controllers after initially purchasing a PS2 (NOT including the second one I bought at the same time as the console)...and I don't throw my controllers or anything like that either, I just play Tekken with friends. Then there's the cost -- $50 a pop for a sub-standard, useless piece of junk. But I had no choice, and Sony exploited that. Lost your memory card? Too bad, cause it's going to cost you $40 for that. Want an HD cable? I think i've made my point.

Sony sells us gaming piecemeal, and the responsibility for bringing this practice into the gaming industry practically falls on its shoulders alone. Nintendo NEVER took us for all we're worth in the shameless manner Sony continues to do.

So I think I'll buy a Wii...and if I have too much free time, I'll spend some of it with friends, and take up more outdoor activities and get my them to come along. Oh, I'll buy a PS3, but only when PS4 comes around, making the price drop to sane levels.

What I won't do, is be exploited by some greedy chumps.

SONY
SolitoN is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 11-10-2006, 09:33 PM  
Demon Slayer
Jay
Demon Slayer is a glorious beacon of lightDemon Slayer is a glorious beacon of lightDemon Slayer is a glorious beacon of lightDemon Slayer is a glorious beacon of lightDemon Slayer is a glorious beacon of lightDemon Slayer is a glorious beacon of light
 
Demon Slayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,366

Wii Online Code: 4815-7837-6805-1378
Wii Username:
DemonSlayer

sure wtv you say welcome to the forum
__________________
Can You See Me In The Dark, When The Demons Attack You?


Spoiler Alert!


Brawl Friend code : 1976-9829-4116
Demon Slayer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 09:33 PM  
Rift
WiiChat Member
Rift is on a distinguished road
 
Rift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 177

Wii Online Code: 7509-5934-6367-2803
Wii Username:
Rift

seems like I've read this somewhere else...
__________________
Yes a text sig

My Wii is small...
Rift is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 09:37 PM  
SolitoN
Junior Member
SolitoN is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3


I posted it on PS3 forums under a diff title.
SolitoN is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 09:39 PM  
Rift
WiiChat Member
Rift is on a distinguished road
 
Rift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 177

Wii Online Code: 7509-5934-6367-2803
Wii Username:
Rift

seems like that's where I read it lol... say something next time I hate thinking people are plagerizing
__________________
Yes a text sig

My Wii is small...
Rift is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 09:40 PM  
Homesrfan
ftw
Homesrfan has a spectacular aura aboutHomesrfan has a spectacular aura aboutHomesrfan has a spectacular aura about
 
Homesrfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,255


I googled it and the same guy posted it on PS3 forums.
Good post.
Quote:
I posted it on PS3 forums under a diff title.

Meh, beat me to it.
Homesrfan is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 09:41 PM  
ABC
Banned
ABC is on a distinguished road
 
ABC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NyC/Nj
Posts: 1,646

Wii Online Code: 1929-2278-1848-3419
Wii Username:
ABC

Yeah, that's a pretty weak argument. You want new technology? You gotta pay for it. It's as simple as that. If you can't afford it, you don't get it. Stick with the Wii.
ABC is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 09:41 PM  
Neuro
Cyberpunk
Neuro is on a distinguished road
 
Neuro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 62


@SolitoN, I can't really agree or disagree with your post because I haven't given the PS3 much though, honestly. I've never really been a huge fan of Sony (hell, I had a N64 long before I ever owned my first PS1).

Nice intro though, much better than a standard "Hi, I'm new here."
Neuro is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 10:00 PM  
SolitoN
Junior Member
SolitoN is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3


LOL, I know I come across as someone who wants to have Nintendo' baby; Sony's practices are insidious and I want to make it clear. I like the Wii, but I'm not ready to start a family YET, with the economy the way it is and all don't u know...

I don't think it's a weak argument at all ABC. I'm willing to shell out for tech advances as much as the next guy but, as is pretty clear in my post, I won't give up my cash so Sony can expand in a market I don't even care about. It might be important to them: I could care less. If there were no blu-ray, the price would be MUCH lower...think about it, it's not the new tech that's justifying the price tag.
SolitoN is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 10:05 PM  
Rift
WiiChat Member
Rift is on a distinguished road
 
Rift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 177

Wii Online Code: 7509-5934-6367-2803
Wii Username:
Rift

the argument reminds me of the VHS vs. beta days lol... I'd wait on buying one or the other till one comes out on top...
__________________
Yes a text sig

My Wii is small...
Rift is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 10:11 PM  
ABC
Banned
ABC is on a distinguished road
 
ABC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NyC/Nj
Posts: 1,646

Wii Online Code: 1929-2278-1848-3419
Wii Username:
ABC

Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitoN
think about it, it's not the new tech that's justifying the price tag.

Ohhh, ok...
ABC is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 10:15 PM  
Jenova
Final Distance
Jenova is on a distinguished road
 
Jenova's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 1,128

Wii Online Code: 8507-9443-5099-4224
Wii Username:
Ender**PM ME IF YOU WANT TO ADD ME AS A FRIEND**

I totally agree. o.o Great post, by the way.
__________________
Jenova is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 10:23 PM  
daddyfatsackz
Banned
daddyfatsackz is on a distinguished road
 
daddyfatsackz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 110


Good post for sure, I too am an ol skool gamer. But I am not a fan of bashing sony....microsoft is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more sleazy in its tactics. Sony is not much of a game console my man, as the PSP (in my opinion as an adult) was more functional than the DS. Sony is blending music,gaming and entertainment in one, hence....mo money, mo money, mo money! Nintendo stays true to its gaming roots, giving us a great gaming experience as it always has, keeping it FUN.Argue all you want sony does have a good product, for what they are trying to do. This post will get ugly real quick...Im out.
daddyfatsackz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nintendo Wii Breakdown - The Answer for Nintendo Newbies! Kunu Nintendo Wii Chat 225 08-13-2008 05:51 AM
The History of Nintendo Essay Mr_Stoukaph Nintendo Retro 41 04-10-2007 01:31 PM
Zelda:what You Need To Know!!! Joe Twilight Princess 35 11-28-2006 03:48 AM
Wii to launch on October 2nd? Homicidal_Gamer Nintendo Wii Chat 29 09-16-2006 06:31 AM
Nintendo to announce Wii price and release date early? gameking2006 Nintendo Wii Chat 7 07-24-2006 07:09 AM


Search WiiChat.com

Advanced Search
Advertisement
Support Wii Chat
 
 
       Designed by

Vbulletinskinz.com
 
Copyright (c) 2006-2007 WiiChat.com. All rights reserved. All trademarks and copyrights remain the property of their respective owners.
vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.