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Old 01-18-2008, 10:27 PM   #21
 
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It won't lose momentum anytime soon. I've heard the supply isn't expected to meet the demand until sometime around June 2008 for the Wii...bad news for those who are still looking because they are going to be hard to find until then.
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:45 AM   #22
 
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On the article, I'll believe it. Most people I'm sure wouldn't mind owning a PS3 (besides its size) but the price may be a bit too high right now, same with the 360 but they have an excellent lineup, I must admit.
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360 ends up costing a few bucks more than a Wii, if even that when its said and done.. the Wii starts out cheep with alot of pricey add ons same as xbox 360 arcade version, its only 30 bucks more but in the end a completed system is the same cost i would say... once you figure in memory cards/hard drives and controllers

problem is ps3 starts higher and its controllers cost just as much so its in no way "cheeper" than the other 2 systems, not to mention the fact they are taking the biggest profit loss...

As you manufacture something the more you make the cheeper it is to make, Thats why 360 did the first price drop they have been out longer and have sold a fair amount to be able too improve manufacturing cost and inturn be able to drop the price..

Wii has made even more units than 360 but in half the time so they probably havent found a cheeper way to really build it yet running at full speed just trying to keep up. But with how many parts they are probably ordering now in bulk, the price difference in that alone they could safely drop the price down to the 199.99 mark by this comming christmas same for 360 i would say

ps3 on the other hand isn't dropping in manufacturing cost, because it hasn't made enough units and the price of making them hasn't gone down enough to be able to do this.
They are dropping price just to compete with the other 2 systems.... They already take the biggest hit in profits all this will do its put them further in the red...

Honestly with all the dumb moves sony has made over the years im suprised they are still as big as they are... they need to take a breath pay attention and just make money for once if they dont catch up they will be gone soon...
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Over 115 million people own a PS2, for Sony to turn their backs on that is utter insanity. That's more than the GC, Wii, Xbox, 360, Dreamcast, Neo Geo, 3do, Jaguar, TG-16, Saturn, Sega CD combined!
I doubt that over 115 million people actually do own PS2s. I know that many has been sold but nobody ever seems to take into account how many of them are repeat buys, virtually everyone i know who had a PS2 has bought more than 1 due to them wearing out and some people have even bought 3.

I wonder how long Sony will support the PS3 at a loss because its still not even getting great software sales.
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i doubt ssbb will cause much of a spike at all. all the nintendo fans already own a wii and besides them its mostly "casual" gamers, remember? they arent looking forward to SSBB.

but until ps3 is under $300? stupid article, and thats pretty god awful if the wii takes that long to meet demand, it shouldve already but i guess nintendo loves the attention.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:36 AM   #26
 
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The PS3 has never made a profit. I don't think Sony's game division has ever made a profit. Nor has Microsoft's XBox division.

And the Wii will lose momentum the day that Zelda and Mario games are available on the Playstation.
If you think it's the Mario and Zelda games pushing the Wii consoles, you might want to rethink that.

GC was the worst selling console of last generation. It had Mario and Zelda games, no?
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360 ends up costing a few bucks more than a Wii, if even that when its said and done.. the Wii starts out cheep with alot of pricey add ons same as xbox 360 arcade version, its only 30 bucks more but in the end a completed system is the same cost i would say... once you figure in memory cards/hard drives and controllers
The Arcade version of 360 comes with a 256MB memory card and a wireless controller. The only things Arcade version doesnt come with is ethernet cord and headset.

Face it if you bought the Arcade version you chances are someone who didnt have much money so you wanted to save. Or a casual gamer who doesnt need a headset or maybe even not ethernet cord. Besides most people who have broadband own an extra ethernet cord. I know I got a bunch laying around. Even if you don't they're really cheap.
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Only one thing can defeat Nintendo this year. Poor judgement, and with Sony topping themselves month by month it'll be hard. This generation goes back to originality, casual gamers, and reasonable prices. Let's see if Nintendo slips up.
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i dont really think wii's momentum will go down, but rather just level out. PS3's will definitely go up though, I know for sure if I didn't have a Wii right now and the only deciding factor was a 50 dollar difference, I throw out the extra 50 and get a PS3.

I'd still want the Wii, but at that moment the PS3 would win my money. That was their biggest mistake of all, thinking people were ready for a $600 game console. Computer? Sure, but not a game console.

I can imagine Sony vs. consumers as an episode of Seinfeld. Namely when Jerry got his father "The Wizard". For those of you who haven't seen it, Jerry got his father a $200 personal organizer called "The Wizard" which would have been the equivalent of a Blackberry. His father however only notices one feature, the calculator which he gleefully exclaims he'll use to calculate tips at restaurants. The whole show Jerry is trying to show his dad the other features of this thing, but still his father is only paying attention to the "tip calculator". In the end Jerry lets slip how much it cost him to get it, and his father is like "I can't believe you'd pay 200 dollars for a tip calculator" to which a now hoplessly frustrated Jerry retorts "IT DOES OTHER THINGS!".

That's probably what Sony feels like everytime we complain about the price tag.

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They sort of have to, since unlike Sony and Microsoft they don't have a myriad of other businesses to prop up a money-losing division.
Do you realize how profitable Pokemon is alone?
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sorry i double posted it was my computer.
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Heck, it dosent matter how much the ps3 costs its still one crappy system.The PS3 may be able to play blue-ray,but the wii has better motion control.Who knows nintendo might be working on a upgrade for the wii.Sony's biggest problem is that they dont concentrate on gameplay ,they only focus on the graphics.Nintendo, on the other hand concentrates on the gameplay, not the graphics.The biggest diffrence between the two is that Nintendo concentrates on the gameplay instead of graphics,while Sony only focus' on the graphics instead of the gameplay.I'm glad i got a wii instead of a PS3.
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On the article, I'll believe it. Most people I'm sure wouldn't mind owning a PS3 (besides its size) but the price may be a bit too high right now, same with the 360 but they have an excellent lineup, I must admit.
thats like exactly how i feel, i mean well i dotn want the 360 but for the ps3 the only thing stopping me from geting it before is its price, and when its lowered to $300 i'll get it cause thats somewhat reasonable. but until then i have my wii to hold me over and even if i get the ps3 it will still probaly be my main console
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i doubt ssbb will cause much of a spike at all. all the nintendo fans already own a wii and besides them its mostly "casual" gamers, remember? they arent looking forward to SSBB.

but until ps3 is under $300? stupid article, and thats pretty god awful if the wii takes that long to meet demand, it shouldve already but i guess nintendo loves the attention.
Actually, Super Smash Bros. Brawl could cause a spike. Sometimes people with systems, and this goes for all three, will wait until their favorite game comes out and then will proceed to buy the console. Considering the delays of Brawl, and the lack of good games for the most part in 2007, gamers may have waited until Brawl comes out to buy a Wii. Not saying its going to sell a bunch of consoles, but it could still do some damage. Like with Halo 3 for example. That game sold a lot, and also increased the 360 sales. You also have to take into consideration the people who do not yet have a Wii out there, and the people that were unsure of what it was about and may decide to buy one later. You have to think a bit more rationally, before saying SSBB won't do anything for the Wii.

Also, Wii is expected to meet demand by April of this year, the article is simply talking about the interest towards to the Wii and saying how there won't be as much if Ps3 drops to $300.

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If you think it's the Mario and Zelda games pushing the Wii consoles, you might want to rethink that.

GC was the worst selling console of last generation. It had Mario and Zelda games, no?
Are you kidding?

Mario games and Zelda, especially all the Mario ones..are some of the better selling games and better overall games out there. Mario Party, Baseball, Tennis, Kart etc. Don't let the people playing their casual games fool you this time around, and for Gamecube there were more problems with it than you mention here. Yes it had Mario and Zelda, what it didn't have was good third party support, so ultimately did very poorly.
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Yes it had Mario and Zelda, what it didn't have was good third party support, so ultimately did very poorly.
And so does the Wii now, i think publishers are like planning to make the Wii fail becuz of lack of 3rd party titles.
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I don't think the Wii's momentum is threatened. However, Microsoft should worry.
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I don't think the Wii's momentum is threatened. However, Microsoft should worry.
Very true. Both Sony and Nintendo have a huge line-up of popular trusted titles coming out this year while Xbox may have a few, but all are non-exclusive.

I say Microsoft is either hiding something special, or sh*ting bricks.
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