Wii Playing DVD's through Homebrew app?

gidget · 04-25-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brawny

What? Nintendo has always used reverse-spinning discs as an anti-piracy measure.

no they haven't. this has always been dominant rumor even during gamecube era.
i've watched modded wii's and the gamecube could be opened while spinning. it's the same direction.

Brawny · 04-25-2009, 11:45 AM

But it goes from outside to in.

azwiiessex · 04-25-2009, 05:31 PM

yea same as on gamecube the discs go backwards its a supposed anti piracy thing yea
im not sure on my update

rukus · 04-25-2009, 07:00 PM

the disc's don't spin backwards. the disc read direction is different.

laser wortking towards the inside vs working towardsa the outside.

gidget · 04-25-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brawny

But it goes from outside to in.

ah! this is the first i've heard it explained so clearly compared to "it reads/spins backwards" so why would the GC read head default to the enter of the drive? prolly because it's the same drive but the software controls it differently.

if it reads from the outside-in i would highly doubt the drives would be physically different at all... it would just be a software change and not put any undue wear on the drive for reading a different direction.

rukus · 04-25-2009, 07:25 PM

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if it reads from the outside-in i would highly doubt the drives would be physically different at all... it would just be a software change and not put any undue wear on the drive for reading a different direction.

when it comes to video games, the head is always jumping around anyway, so the head is often moving along its track in both directions.

sprinter · 04-26-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rukus

i use my wii to watch movies a fair bit. broke ass students can't afford stuff that many people think are cheap.

Well a Wii costs a hell of lot more than a DVD player... so my math says if you can afford a Wii...

gidget · 04-26-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sprinter

Well a Wii costs a hell of lot more than a DVD player... so my math says if you can afford a Wii...

the wii could have been a gift...
$30 for a DVD player is $30.
if you can spend a few minutes to set your wii up in DVD mode for free then that's $30 for something i'd rather pay for.

i remember last year people would shoot down threads that mention DVD part of a wii is a ridiculous feature to request, but no one thinks VC games are lame even if they have a classic NES in their closet... no one thinks the internet browser is ridiculous when they have multiple PCs in their house.

people like the DVD/Blueray on 360 and PS..

Brawny · 04-26-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rukus

when it comes to video games, the head is always jumping around anyway, so the head is often moving along its track in both directions.

I just use my laptop.

Does the DVD player feature have region restrictions?

sprinter · 04-27-2009, 01:14 AM

People crack me up. Can't afford seems to = too cheap to buy anymore. Can't afford games or DVDs so they get copies from their friends etc... No wonder the movie studios, music industry, and game companies get so pissed over piracy anymore. People essentially stealing shit left and right.

I must be getting old. Cuz I know for sure when I was younger, and we couldn't afford something, it meant WE DIDN'T GET IT. It didn't mean it was ok to go steal it. It didn't mean it was OK to go do something illegal in some manner to get it. It meant we did without. Something the average person today seems to know little about...

gidget · 04-27-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sprinter

People crack me up. Can't afford seems to = too cheap to buy anymore. ...It didn't mean it was ok to go steal it. It didn't mean it was OK to go do something illegal in some manner to get it. It meant we did without. Something the average person today seems to know little about...

wait wait...
i don't see anything here eluding to stealing anything. this thread is about watching DVDs on the wii.

rukus · 04-27-2009, 07:47 AM

some of you guys are pretty ignorant.

sprinter · 04-27-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gidget

wait wait...
i don't see anything here eluding to stealing anything. this thread is about watching DVDs on the wii.

Nintendo didn't pay for the right to play actual DVD movies on their console, hence no DVD logo on it. Whether or not it's POSSIBLE, is besides the point.

Now instead of legally buying a DVD player, people are putting homebrew on their Wii. Essentially stealing. You are then able to view movies using a system that is not legally licensed to do so = stealing. What part do you not understand?

You say maybe the Wii was a gift, that the person can't afford a DVD player. Yet I'm to assume they can afford the DVDs and Games they watch or play on their Wii?

I've seen this for several years in all sorts of areas.

Example: PS2 users crying their version os Guitar Hero sucks, and they get no DLC compared to PS3 and 360. But poor poory me, they can't afford a next gen console. Yet they CAN afford multiple plastic guitars, multiple GH and RB games, yet STILL can't afford a new console? BULLSHIT.

Now back on topic. You can't afford a DVD player? Are you ****ing kidding me? How do you get DVDs or games? 1 of 2 legal ways. Buy or rent. Either way I'll say the same I said before, don't buy ONE ****ing game, and you CAN AFFORD a DVD player... Now on the other hand if you can't afford to buy or rent games or DVDs and your Wii was a gift, yet you HAVE games and DVDs... then 1 of 2 things has happened. 1. they were all gifts... 2. you got copies.

Are you with me gidget?

Can't afford a DVD player? BULLSHIT. Stealing is stealing period. I don't care if you walked in to a store and walked out with a DVD player you did not pay for, or you installed some unsupported software onto you console, and illegally added functionality that was NOT paid for. The end result is EXACTLY the same. You now have a DVD player that you did NOT pay for. Again since you did not pay for it, you stole it.

If Nintendo had provided DVD support in the console, it would likely of added $20 to $50 to the cost of the unit. No it wouldn't of cost Nintendo that much, but that's likely what it would of cost the consumer. Guess what, that's about the cost of a DVD player in the store.

rukus if you are referring to me with your last comment, think what you may... but I saw you post in another thread about Wii points generators, and you mentioned piracy... Yet you state you run HomeBrew in your signature. Whether you view piracy as the copying of the software or movies themselves, or of soft modding your console to do something it was never intended, it's all the same thing.

So just because I view HomeBrew as an Illegal app, which obviously Nintendo does as well, or 4.0 wouldn't of killed it's installation... I must be ignorant.

I'm not in the mood to go dig out all the Nintendo documentation that comes with the Wii... but most if not all hardware/software has a EULA - End User License Agreement of some sort or other, outlining what you may or may not do legally with the hardware/software. I'm willing to be it's clearly outlined that installing unsupported apps is illegal. I'm pretty sure the Twighlight hack is not the intended use of the software, and is illegal...

From inside front cover of Zelda...

IMPORTANT LEGAL INFORMATION this Nintendo game is not designed for use with any unauthorized device. Use of any such device will invalidate your Nintendo product warranty. Copying of any Nintendo game is illegal and strictly prohibited by domestic and international intellectual property laws. "Back up" or "archival" copies are not authorized and are not necessary to protect your software. Violators will be prosecuted.

I'm pretty sure the system has a similar statement which would cover HomeBrew being installed. The game was sitting here handy, the rest of the stuff is buried in a closet and I don't care to dig it out, to prove a point you don't agree with, and think is ignorant.

Bottom line.

HomeBrew is an unsupported piece of software, and is illegal. Using it voids your system warranty if caught. Is a free DVD mod worth that?

gidget · 04-27-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sprinter

Nintendo didn't pay for the right to play actual DVD movies on their console, hence no DVD logo on it...

this is an honest oversight on my part... and is a good point.
however i couldn't be fussed with reading the rest your text all the way through.. it reads it like you're rather bothered to support your point.. possibly angry.

sprinter · 04-27-2009, 07:31 PM

Nah just tired of trying to point out the right thing all the time... People or so used to doing it the laziest, cheapest, any way to get it free way possible. That's a LOT of what's wrong with our country today.

heymoe99 · 04-29-2009, 01:29 PM

technically, a pc cannot play dvd's either. you have to install software to play them. so what's the difference if you put software on your wii rather than your pc?

when i first got a decent pc (back in 1999) i had windows 98 and a cd-rom.
i upgraded to xp pro (yes i bought it).
eventually bought a dvd-rw (expecting dvdr's to drop in price like cdr's did).
i could not play a dvd unless i had the right software. luckily, my video cards website had free software (wasnt good but it worked most of the time).

EDIT (after thinking about it for a few min..)
i got a dvdrom before dvdrw. a friend of mine gave me one he had laying around. it would not play dvd's on it's own. nvidia had dvd software that worked most of the time.

sprinter · 04-29-2009, 03:35 PM

PC DVD software is licensed. Unless you pirate it... The DVD-ROM drive itself is also licensed, that's why it's allowed to carry the DVD logo on it.

rukus · 04-30-2009, 03:45 PM

this world is licensed for all sorts of crap. stealing? no shit. what a surprise. but who determines what i can and cannot do with something i own. nintendo can go screw themselves. same with anyone who licenses something then expects people to pay exorbitant lingering prices. if i want to protect or backup something i own, im going to. thats not stealing, its going against a technicality on a products EULA.

sprinter · 05-01-2009, 05:06 PM

According to the federal government, and the Digital Millenium Copyyright Act, it's stealing.

rukus · 05-02-2009, 08:26 AM

its called not putting money into the greedy gold-lined pockets of big corporation

04-25-2009, 05:31 PM	#23
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04-25-2009, 07:00 PM	#24
rukus WiiChat Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 936 Friends: 4	the disc's don't spin backwards. the disc read direction is different. laser wortking towards the inside vs working towardsa the outside. __________________ Wii Games: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Heatseeker, Excite Truck, Wii Play, NHL 2k9, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Strikers Charged, Shaun White Snowboarding, The Bigs, Guitar Hero: World Tour, Ghost Squad, Call of Duty: World at War, Wii Sports Resort, Punch-out! VC: Wave Race 64 Homebrew Channel

04-27-2009, 01:14 AM	#30
sprinter WiiChat Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa U.S.A. Posts: 79 Friends: 0 8622-4911-2881-8614	People crack me up. Can't afford seems to = too cheap to buy anymore. Can't afford games or DVDs so they get copies from their friends etc... No wonder the movie studios, music industry, and game companies get so pissed over piracy anymore. People essentially stealing shit left and right. I must be getting old. Cuz I know for sure when I was younger, and we couldn't afford something, it meant WE DIDN'T GET IT. It didn't mean it was ok to go steal it. It didn't mean it was OK to go do something illegal in some manner to get it. It meant we did without. Something the average person today seems to know little about... __________________ there he goes, one of god's own prototypes... a high powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production... too weird to live, and too rare to die... Buy the Ticket... Take the Ride...

04-27-2009, 07:47 AM	#32
rukus WiiChat Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 936 Friends: 4	some of you guys are pretty ignorant. __________________ Wii Games: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Heatseeker, Excite Truck, Wii Play, NHL 2k9, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Strikers Charged, Shaun White Snowboarding, The Bigs, Guitar Hero: World Tour, Ghost Squad, Call of Duty: World at War, Wii Sports Resort, Punch-out! VC: Wave Race 64 Homebrew Channel

04-27-2009, 07:31 PM	#35
sprinter WiiChat Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa U.S.A. Posts: 79 Friends: 0 8622-4911-2881-8614	Nah just tired of trying to point out the right thing all the time... People or so used to doing it the laziest, cheapest, any way to get it free way possible. That's a LOT of what's wrong with our country today. __________________ there he goes, one of god's own prototypes... a high powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production... too weird to live, and too rare to die... Buy the Ticket... Take the Ride...


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04-29-2009, 01:29 PM	#36
heymoe99 WiiChat Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cleveland Posts: 354 Friends: 0	technically, a pc cannot play dvd's either. you have to install software to play them. so what's the difference if you put software on your wii rather than your pc? when i first got a decent pc (back in 1999) i had windows 98 and a cd-rom. i upgraded to xp pro (yes i bought it). eventually bought a dvd-rw (expecting dvdr's to drop in price like cdr's did). i could not play a dvd unless i had the right software. luckily, my video cards website had free software (wasnt good but it worked most of the time). EDIT (after thinking about it for a few min..) i got a dvdrom before dvdrw. a friend of mine gave me one he had laying around. it would not play dvd's on it's own. nvidia had dvd software that worked most of the time. Last edited by heymoe99; 04-29-2009 at 01:59 PM.

04-29-2009, 03:35 PM	#37
sprinter WiiChat Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa U.S.A. Posts: 79 Friends: 0 8622-4911-2881-8614	PC DVD software is licensed. Unless you pirate it... The DVD-ROM drive itself is also licensed, that's why it's allowed to carry the DVD logo on it. __________________ there he goes, one of god's own prototypes... a high powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production... too weird to live, and too rare to die... Buy the Ticket... Take the Ride...

04-30-2009, 03:45 PM	#38
rukus WiiChat Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 936 Friends: 4	this world is licensed for all sorts of crap. stealing? no shit. what a surprise. but who determines what i can and cannot do with something i own. nintendo can go screw themselves. same with anyone who licenses something then expects people to pay exorbitant lingering prices. if i want to protect or backup something i own, im going to. thats not stealing, its going against a technicality on a products EULA. __________________ Wii Games: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Heatseeker, Excite Truck, Wii Play, NHL 2k9, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Strikers Charged, Shaun White Snowboarding, The Bigs, Guitar Hero: World Tour, Ghost Squad, Call of Duty: World at War, Wii Sports Resort, Punch-out! VC: Wave Race 64 Homebrew Channel

05-01-2009, 05:06 PM	#39
sprinter WiiChat Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa U.S.A. Posts: 79 Friends: 0 8622-4911-2881-8614	According to the federal government, and the Digital Millenium Copyyright Act, it's stealing. __________________ there he goes, one of god's own prototypes... a high powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production... too weird to live, and too rare to die... Buy the Ticket... Take the Ride...

05-02-2009, 08:26 AM	#40
rukus WiiChat Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 936 Friends: 4	its called not putting money into the greedy gold-lined pockets of big corporation __________________ Wii Games: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Heatseeker, Excite Truck, Wii Play, NHL 2k9, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Strikers Charged, Shaun White Snowboarding, The Bigs, Guitar Hero: World Tour, Ghost Squad, Call of Duty: World at War, Wii Sports Resort, Punch-out! VC: Wave Race 64 Homebrew Channel

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