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04-24-2008, 06:14 PM
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Internet Channel Support for Flash 8 & 9
i have been round and round with opera (wii internet channel developers) on the fact that the wii opera internet browser (channel) does not support any flash 8 or 9 content. this is a huge hassle when trying to view video content through your wii browser. you can find our discussion here.
there is a lot of confusion going around about who is responsible for this incompatibility. some people think it is opera's fault, some think it is adobe. yet no one is pointing the finger at nintendo.
the reality of the matter is the issue is completely out of opera's hands. it is partly adobe's fault, but mostly nintendo, because nintendo calls the shots.
the only way this issue is going to be resolved is if massive ammounts of consumers contact nintendo.
to that end, i have contacted both adobe and nintendo and if any concerned consumers are out there reading this, you should contact nintendo too here. adobe can be contacted here.
you can use my letter as a template for your complaint.
i sent nintendo the following letter:
Dear Nintendo,
This request is in regard to the lack of Flash 8 or 9 support on the Internet Channel (Wii Opera internet browser). I have been in contact with the developers at both Adobe and Opera regarding this issue.
Adobe has informed me that as of October 1, 2007 the Micromedia Flash Player 7 SDK (which is used by Opera) will no longer be available and that the migration path for the Flash Player 7 SDK is Adobe Flash Lite 3.
When I approached Opera about the issue, they informed me that Flash Lite 3 could be made compatible with the Wii Opera internet browser, but it is not programmed to support it because Nintendo has not asked Opera development to implement the up to date Flash Lite 3 player.
Why has Nintendo not addressed this issue when the update has been available for over 6 months?
When is Nintendo going to request that Opera update the browser for the Wii and make it available to loyal Wii Internet Channel customers?
If cost is an issue, there are many consumers like myself who have already paid the 5 U.S. dollars to purchase the Wii Internet channel but were gravely disappointed to learn that most Flash video content is not viewable through the browser we just purchased. I would gladly pay another $5 to make the Internet Channel compatable with Flash 8 and 9 content through the use of the new development kit provided by Adobe, Flash Lite 3.
Please let us know when this will be addressed.
Sincerely,
Loyal Nintendo Customer
nintendo set me the following response:
Message(#6851-000670-4599\6704599)
Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,
I appreciate your taking the time to share your comments with us in regard to wanting the Flash Player updated for the Internet Chennel. I will forward your e-mail on to the appropriate department for further review. While you won't be contacted further regarding this issue, please rest assured that your feedback will be taken into consideration when planning future applications.
Sincerely,
Nintendo of America Inc.
Sharon Matheny
adobe responded like this:
[[issue]]
nintendo wii/opera support for flash player
[[envi][
nintendo wii
opera
[[symptoms]]
currently not supported
[[aciton]]
sent to wish form
explained limited to the nintendo wii envi
so basically, adobe sent the issue to a "wish form" the same way nintendo did.
the only way this will ever be resolved is if we all make our wishes known to nintendo and/or adobe.
if you're reading this, please help out by doing something about it.
use my letter as a template. it only takes 5 minutes of your time. let's force them to address this issue or we'll never be able to view flash content on our consoles.
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04-24-2008, 09:19 PM
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Master of Drunken Fist
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It can be annoying since Opera is very limited in many ways. But we can't expect too much since the channel is ""almost"" free (And for some, it was free).
Not to mention, many people will probably be forced to delete this channel because it takes so much memory. ( At least for me, I have too much VC games. )
But don't get me wrong, I'm not against the idea. Good luck! 
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04-24-2008, 11:33 PM
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The Sony PS3 browser suffers the same Flash limitation as the Wii's Opera browser.
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04-25-2008, 03:46 AM
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VOTE FOR THE NDP!!!
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very few sites use flash players over 7. Its not a huge issue. You have a computer so use it.
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05-20-2008, 03:26 AM
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ya very few sites use flash 8 or higher...
only cnn.com, foxnews.com, nba.com, nfl.com, espn.com, mtv.com and pretty much every other relevant site on the internet, with the exception of youtube.
good call.
most users do use their computers. however, it's not exactly as comfortable to watch extended media from your office chair all by yourself, when you could be watching it from your couch on your big screen tv, with a wiimote in your hand and your family by your side.
you may want to consider the fact that other people have circumstances that differ from your own.
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05-20-2008, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ratskins
ya very few sites use flash 8 or higher...
only cnn.com, foxnews.com, nba.com, nfl.com, espn.com, mtv.com and pretty much every other relevant site on the internet, with the exception of youtube.
good call.
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Blame Adobe. They have yet to release an updated SDK for embedded devices.
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05-20-2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ratskins
you may want to consider the fact that other people have circumstances that differ from your own.
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I am pretty sure that attacking another reputable member is not a way to make a point. I agree, that the lack of higher versions of Flash makes me sad, because I would love to stream the episodes of The Office on my Wii, but the fact of the matter is there are computers that are capable of such viewing. Going through all the trouble of contacting Opera, Adobe, and Nintendo is a little ridiculous, but I definitely applaud the efforts - now let's get their focus on storage solutions!
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05-20-2008, 09:24 PM
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Adobe did release a new SDK, its called Flash Player Lite 3.
Its up to Opera so they update the browser.
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05-20-2008, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wiifan156
Adobe did release a new SDK, its called Flash Player Lite 3.
Its up to Opera so they update the browser.
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Actually it's up to Nintendo to ask Opera to update the browser (and to pay for those changes). And that's assuming that Flash Player Lite 3 is doable on the Wii. There still seems to be some confusion as to what Adobe does and does not allow based on some posts in the Opera Wii forum. Even if Lite is a solution, it doesn't look like there's any changes in the near future for the Wii browser.
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05-21-2008, 06:49 AM
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need help with wii?
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i sent an email about it
and the response:
Message(#6851-000682-8967\6828967)
Hello,
I appreciate your taking the time to share your comments with us regarding your desire to see an upgrade to the Internet Channel on the Wii console. Rest assured that your e-mail will be forwarded on to the appropriate department for further review.
Sincerely,
Nintendo of America Inc.
Kurt Wagner
Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com/
Power Line (Automated Product Info): (425) 885-7529
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yeah i know.
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