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but nobody can argue that better graphics is a bad thing.
Well that depends on how you define "Better graphics" I do think that it is not the size of the polygon breasts (Do not take literally) but more so artistic vision and how art is supporting game that counts. I think Wii sports looks fantastic because graphics are supporting game and it's core rather well. Allso I think that with some half serious asset try to make wii sports "look better" instead of simplified human kariatures it would loose some of it's edge.
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ok i hear what your saying mate but i personally dont define good graphics by the size of the game characters breasts? lmao. nobody would have a bad word to say if the mii's looked like a spitting image of you... obviously its not gunna happen but better graphics are never a bad thing & i stand by that. wii sports looks good, looks fun but everyone who has already seen it & liked it is already biased. if nintendo had never released it like that & instead the mii's looked like you 100% then nobody on this forum would be arguing "yeah it looks really good but i just wish nintendo had dummed it down abit & used more basic graphics. it would make the game alot better..." lol... better graphics might not always improve the game but they can NEVER MAKE IT WORSE
so your telling me if the mii's looked more realistic it would make it worse?
Sheesh. How about limiting your thinking to what I actually wrote.
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bollocks mate. look im not complaining bout the mii's or wii sports, dont get that twisted but nobody can argue that better graphics is a bad thing. i wouldn't change a thing about the wii or wii sports they both look great - thats why i bothered to signed up to this forum. great graphics might make a game slightly better, they might not but they sure wont make it worse.
Nobody said better graphics aren't better. If you can't see that cartoony graphics is making the system more approach to non-gamers, then I don't know what to tell you.
The simplicity of the graphics in Wii Sports and Miis makes the system less intimidating to older, non-gamers. For these people, higher-res graphics = more complex gameplay. Heck, there are gamer fanboys that believe the same thing!
The simplicity of the graphics in Wii Sports and Miis makes the system less intimidating to older, non-gamers. For these people, higher-res graphics = more complex gameplay. Heck, there are gamer fanboys that believe the same thing!
Agreed man. Nintendo is going for simplicity with the bundled game to attract that first wave of "non" gamers. But my qeuestion is, what are they doing for gamers? No online, terrible graphics (some worst than next-gen), and in some cases, simplified features. That can only go so far before the true gamers start wanting more.
Thats when they bring out more, with these features. Yes, the geniousity! Like, Tiger Woods online or something. With graphics compariable to the PS3! But not in a good way. Hopefully when true gamers start wanting more, nintendo will answer their call. Except if the phone line is busy.
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If I was to have gay sex, then I think it would have to be with a female, otherwise it wouldn't really be gay. But that's just me. I think I should just shut up now. But if I was male, and were to have gay sex, then there would be no reason NOT to play the Wii or at least watch TV. Okay now I am really going to shut up.
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No offense but why would you think that the Wii-motes would work with the Wii?
Agreed man. Nintendo is going for simplicity with the bundled game to attract that first wave of "non" gamers. But my qeuestion is, what are they doing for gamers? No online, terrible graphics (some worst than next-gen), and in some cases, simplified features. That can only go so far before the true gamers start wanting more.
That is Nintendo's next challenge and it will ultimately show whether the Wii is holiday-season flash-in-the-pan for an innovative game system that breaks the mold.
As for "true gamers" I hope that you aren't talking about the typical Playstation and XBox gamers. Nintendo has very wisely stated they aren't going to compete in that gamespace. I believe that this time around, Nintendo will offer a wider variety of games... I mean, COD3 as a launch title?! I wouldn't have thought that.
Developing for the Wii is far less expensive and less complex than developing for the 360 or PS3. When we factor that in with the sales and buzz of the Wii, suddenly it becomes an attractive system to develop for.
The next 6-12 months will be telling. But so far, I really like where the big "N" is going.
If I was to have gay sex, then I think it would have to be with a female, otherwise it wouldn't really be gay. But that's just me. I think I should just shut up now. But if I was male, and were to have gay sex, then there would be no reason NOT to play the Wii or at least watch TV. Okay now I am really going to shut up.
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No offense but why would you think that the Wii-motes would work with the Wii?
Sheesh. How about limiting your thinking to what I actually wrote.
nobody said better graphics aren't better. If you can't see that cartoony graphics is making the system more approach to non-gamers, then I don't know what to tell you.
The simplicity of the graphics in Wii Sports and Miis makes the system less intimidating to older, non-gamers. For these people, higher-res graphics = more complex gameplay. Heck, there are gamer fanboys that believe the same thing!
did i ever say that cartoony graphics make the system less approachable to non-gamers? no, i didn't think so. check out this quote from my earlier post in relation to wii sports...
"...its a great way of demonstrating the wii's capabilities & involving people who have previously been alienated by other more complex consoles..."
your arguing a point that i agree with, and im sure most people on this board do so why waste your energy? im not saying i don't like the way the game looks all im saying is better graphics are never a bad thing, i know for a fact that if my mum for example saw a game being advertised on TV that had the same concept as wii sports but had basically life like graphics she would be pretty damn interested. only reason i commented on your breast analogy was because it seemed pretty out of the blue to me, but i guess you should use what ever you need to get your point across lol... i mean somebody read that post? am i the only person who doesn't quite understand what your getting at? and jesus im going to write this in capitals...
I AM GETTING A WII. I AM GETTING WII SPORTS. IM SURE I WILL ENJOY IT IMMENSLY/ IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT GAME.. BUT IF IT HAD GREAT GRAPHICS I WOULD STILL BUY IT. BETTER GRAPHICS WOULD NOT MAKE IT WORSE.. THEY MIGHT NOT MAKE IT ANY BETTER BUT THEY WOULDN'T MAKE IT WORSE!!! E.G. maybe if you could choose what clothes your wii wore? would they make the game a million times better? no. but would that alienate people? no. would that make them less attached to it? no! it would be a nice add on...
i also find the 7.5 ign gave wii sports was harsh also,they said it didnt have enough depth, but was it supposed to. Wii sports is something you can just get used to right awy and play, there wasnt meant to be depth. the red steel review on the other hand i can understand, that game is very bad, though ign didnt say it was bad they said it was not bad, but not good, they gave ita 6.
i dont think its fair for magazines to criticise wii sports for not having enough "depth" aslong as it feels responsive & its easy to pick up & use then its achieved its goal. if it was a game made for retail then it would be different... but its not, its just a freebie thegood people at nintendo packaged in with a very fairly priced console so when you take that into account, you can't really fault the game... aslong as it feels responsive - i can't comment on that side of things, haven't played it but it looks good
a very valid point but the bad thing is all i ever see advertised personally is wii sports & all though its undoubtedly going to be a fun game, people who don't know much about the wii ( e.g. some hardcore gamers who avoid nintendo systems due the the stigmata attached to it - "poor graphics" & "kiddy games" etc etc ) will probably think games with these graphics is all the wii is capable. i know thats the impression alot of my playstation fan boy mates have got. philistines obviously i set them straight after they make this mistake & have converted quite a few. just doing my bit for nintendo
How stupid does someone have to be, to believe that a $250 machine is only capable of producing 'Wii Sports' graphics?
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p.s: i've said it once & i'll say it again, nintendo! you already have the kiddy audience locked! now you need to cater abit more to the hardcore gamers who also like maturer games, cos lets be honest, its all well & good having kids love your system but most kids are broke, its the hardcore gamers who are gunna make you most of your money!
While i agree that they should try and cater to the hardcore gamers, it's not entirely true that that's where the money is. Most hardcore gamers also have bills to pay, whereas, with children, they'll most likely get a few games for Christmas, birthdays, and possibly with chore/pocket money etc.
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