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08-18-2006, 12:24 PM
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Take out Saddam? Was he ever even a threat? To the average, uneducated and ignorant American they probably hate him for no good reason other than him being who he is or, they might give the excuse of the Kuwait genocide (though I seriously doubt how many Americans really care about that other than giving it as a reason to hate him).
Additionally, there are constant allegations of Saddam being guilty of crimes against humanity. I find this hilarious as he hasn't done anything America hasn't done now in their so called "War against Terror". Firstly, terrorism cannot be stopped. "Terrorism" is not a physical or tangible place or thing, it is a manifestation of beliefs. You can kill the followers but you cannot kill the belief. The best thing to do to stop it is to not bomb the hell outta some country but rather by stopping the causes of terrorism and trying to geniunely help the country instead of wringing it for all its worth.
Let's not forget that it was actually proven that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction, as well as the fact he had no ties to Al Quaeda or anything like that. Other people initiating war on the US? I'm sorry but I agree with DarkDepths. The lie about Weapons of Mass Destruction certainly did the trick.
Even moreso, do you guys even get coverage of all the destruction and atrocities that are being committed over there? It's all okay tho because that whole neighborhood was occupied by terrorists, what branch? who cares cuz they were terrorists anyway, and the women and children? Well they shouldn't have been there should they? Even though all the guys killed were all decent hard working people with real jobs and families doesn't matter because that's all "Collateral Damage" according to the American military.
Its just so amusing how we'll never see this ugly side of the "American Way" portrayed in any game at least no game made by any American development crew).
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08-21-2006, 01:27 AM
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Yeah they do need to make a few different varieties.
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08-22-2006, 02:14 PM
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i dont think an developer has the gonads to make a ww2 game from the axis perspective. rightly so.
i personally want to see more ww2 games, cause i havent found a good one yet. call of duty 2 for 360 is as close as it gets to great ww2 shooter to me, but im not dropping 400 bones on a system for that game alone.
i am pretty pumped for CoD3 for wii, and am probably gonna go that route, but i dont mind ww2 shooters cause they all suck, and i dont buy them.
there was a recent flux of vietnam shooters a while back, shellshock, conflict, and men of valor(best)...
i want a revolutionary war game that plays like socom. hide in the mud and give signals to other minute men in the trees, sweet
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08-22-2006, 04:19 PM
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I'm getting pretty tired of all these war games as well, specifically FPS games since there's not a lot of difference between them. And I doubt we'll see a game with the option to play as the Nazis, at least not from a major publisher- it's practically commercial suicide.
As for the wider debate on the war on terror this thread seems to be about now- I'm going to be controversial here and say I think the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were justified, if disastrously executed. Don't think I'm some kind of neo-conservative bible-basher here, I hate Bush and his right-wing friends as much as any sane person. But I have my reasons:
1. Even if Saddam Hussein did not have any weapons of mass destruction or the means to produce them, the fact remains that he was a vicious tyrant who killed thousands of his people and I can't believe anyone could support him. The Taliban were no better, imposing their ultra-conservative policies on Afghanistan and forcing people to adhere to crazy laws (including one which required men to have beards of at least a certain length). Say what you like about the legitimacy of invading another country, I'm glad they're out of power.
2. People complain that the government is just sending soldiers to their doom, but they forget that those soldiers weren't conscripted- they willingly signed up (I am deeply opposed to conscription, by the way). They knew the risks when they joined (or at least, they should have).
3. Saddam Hussein may not have had any weapons of mass destruction, but would it have been safe to leave him alone so that one day he could have acquired such weapons?
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08-22-2006, 10:27 PM
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Pshhhhh! Call of Duty pushes everything, the new one is gonna have vechiles and you can fight people for their guns with your hands!!!!! Well I just hope they fix the Sniper Rifle, its toooo rigged. And with the hold your breath thing just makes it wayyyyyy easier/rigged. They need to make it like DoD, putting the scope up to your eye accutaly takes time (you screen goes blank for awhile) then you see the scope, and when you shoot you accutaly have to unzoom to reload...on CoD2 its just zoom right awya, shoot shoot shoot, hold breath to get a headshot, then reload your clip.
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08-23-2006, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sovieto
Pshhhhh! Call of Duty pushes everything, the new one is gonna have vechiles and you can fight people for their guns with your hands!!!!! Well I just hope they fix the Sniper Rifle, its toooo rigged. And with the hold your breath thing just makes it wayyyyyy easier/rigged. They need to make it like DoD, putting the scope up to your eye accutaly takes time (you screen goes blank for awhile) then you see the scope, and when you shoot you accutaly have to unzoom to reload...on CoD2 its just zoom right awya, shoot shoot shoot, hold breath to get a headshot, then reload your clip.
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So true. 
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09-26-2006, 01:33 PM
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WWII games rock!
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09-26-2006, 04:03 PM
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Only ones I like are Day of Defeat, Day of Defeat Source, and Red Orchestra, on Steam for PC.
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09-26-2006, 04:19 PM
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world war 2 games are great they can only get better, call of duty make great games just like brothers in arms, medal of honour, and u learn alot too from them games, there fun but yet are based on a real war, which makes u think what people went through in the world wars, there not boring there great, lets hope they keep making them i prefer them to scifi or futureistic fps,
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09-26-2006, 04:24 PM
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Well, i kinda like WWII games, though i agree, we should have other points of view to the game. What about the english? Russians, we kinda have CoD (Which is one of my all-time favorite FPS). If we can't get Nazis (Nazi-thinking is the most horrible thing ever, i know), what about the Italians? Or the autralians?
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09-26-2006, 09:11 PM
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As an American, I personally feel that World War II was a time period where good and bad was clearly split. We know who was good and who was bad, looking back noone would disagree. And it was a war, it had lots of action (great game setting), fought on different areas (pearl harbor, normandy, etc.), and was just plain that the Nazis were evil. You can't find anything that has good and bad so clearly defined like WWII. Can you say the same about Indians vs. Europeans? Iriquois vs. Americans? Aztecs vs. Spanish? But there are some decent things like the Gulf War and such but nothing that effected the world as much as WWII.
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