Wii Chat Forums


 
 
Extras


Go Back   Nintendo Wii Forum > Nintendo Wii Forums > Nintendo Wii Gaming

Nintendo Wii Gaming General Wii gaming discussion. Upcoming titles - rumoured and confirmed. Stuck on a game? Why not ask for help here or share your Wii gaming hints and tips!

Sign Up today and these ads will disappear!
Wii Chat is the largest Unofficial Nintendo Wii community, with the latest Wii news and articles alongside upto the minute Wii gaming and hardware discussion.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, by joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload your own photos and access many other special features.



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-11-2007, 08:31 AM   #1
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Friends: 0

View WiiTim's Profile   View WiiTim's Photo Album   View WiiTim's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Ok hockey fans. I'm not sure if this is the best forum to get a message out to EA. (I was actually thinkinking of writing to them) They definetly must have NHL 08 coming to the Wii with the gameplay controls down pat or many won't be happy.
There are many forums out there that look for suggestions on the next NHL game, but everyone gives the same crap about better AI, music, voices, animation, etc. etc. Let's talk about the controls for the Wii to set it apart from the other consoles. Here are my suggetions or concerns for the game.

- SHOOTING - Wouldn't it be awesome to do a slap shot with the nunchuk and wii remote?
But here's the dilema; how does this translate onto screen for left handed and right handed players? (I shoot right, does that mean Crosby will shoot right handed on the screen too?

- PASSING - Any suggestions for passing controls? Forehand? Backhand? or How about a drop pass between the legs?

- BODY CHECKS!!! This will be fun. Here's my suggestions;
- CROSS CHECK - nunchuck and wii remote extended like you are actually crosschecking someone high in the face (get 25 game suspension ), or low on the lumbar area.
- SHOULDER CHECK - Chris Pronger is skating backwards with Ovechkin coming down hard on the LEFT. Extend both the nunchuk and wii remote hard to the LEFT and Pronger flattens Ovechkin with a game ending shoulder check.
- HIP CHECK - Same thing as above with Pronger and Ovie coming down on the LEFT. Pronger decides to upend Ovechkin instead with a hip check by extending both the nunchuk and wii remote to the RIGHT instead to simulate a hip check.

- FIGHTING - This will be a favorite. I'm right handed so I'll extended my nunchuk out in front while holding down the "Z" button to grab Todd Bertuzzi's jersey while I pound his face with the wii remote in my right hand. Vice versa for the controls if you're left handed.
Wanna slow down the fight? How about both the nunchuk and wii remote extended out while holding menacing George Laraque's jersey with the "Z" and "B" button so that you can just jostle with him.

With the wii controls, the gameplay suggestions are boundless. Keep sending your suggestions and hopefully EA will read these before the release of the game.

Last edited by WiiTim; 04-11-2007 at 08:38 AM.
WiiTim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 12:52 PM   #2
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Norrköping
Posts: 6
Friends: 0

View AndiOne's Profile   View AndiOne's Photo Album   View AndiOne's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Interesting thoughts

But about the skating?
Perhaps the nunchuk for skating and the wii-mote as your stick.
AndiOne is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 01:46 PM   #3
 
WiiZero's Avatar
Game Wiizard
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,729
Friends: 0

View WiiZero's Profile   View WiiZero's Photo Album   View WiiZero's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
1st off EA will not read this hate to break it to you second I don't think EA should make Madden 08 it's better with a regular controller
__________________
Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler Alert!
WiiZero is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 05:56 PM   #4
 
FWELR's Avatar
Bonds Passes Hank 8/7/07
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 1,676
Friends: 0

View FWELR's Profile   View FWELR's Photo Album   View FWELR's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
as far as the shooting goes, you can hold the wiimote in either hand, so that shouldn't be a problem. i like the rest of your ideas (especially the hitting), and would like to add some more.

HOLD A and move wiimote to pass
HOLD B and move wiimote to shoot (quickly=wristshot, long motion=slapshot)
move wiimote to deke

Nunchuck-analog stick to move
C=speed burst
Z=turn your head around

I think that playing as the goalie would be fun, since the nunchuck could be your glove hand and the wiimote would be your stick hand. but that would prob. only be in like a special shootout mode.
__________________
Join the Buy BWii Campaign and Buy BWii!
Spoiler Alert!
FWELR is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 06:54 PM   #5
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Friends: 0

View WiiTim's Profile   View WiiTim's Photo Album   View WiiTim's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
That seems like the most logical way to set up passing and shooting with the A and B buttons. I just hope you can thread some good passes.
C button for speed burst = good simple idea.

If EA doesn't read this post. Where will they read it?
WiiTim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 11:24 PM   #6
 
scubasteve's Avatar
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 390
Friends: 0

View scubasteve's Profile   View scubasteve's Photo Album   View scubasteve's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by FWELR
as far as the shooting goes, you can hold the wiimote in either hand, so that shouldn't be a problem. i like the rest of your ideas (especially the hitting), and would like to add some more.

HOLD A and move wiimote to pass
HOLD B and move wiimote to shoot (quickly=wristshot, long motion=slapshot)
move wiimote to deke

Nunchuck-analog stick to move
C=speed burst
Z=turn your head around

I think that playing as the goalie would be fun, since the nunchuck could be your glove hand and the wiimote would be your stick hand. but that would prob. only be in like a special shootout mode.
ah you beat me to it, playing as goalie would rock, i played my first time a week ago, (in my league) i let in 7 shots out of 24, and my team won our first game this season, it was our fourth game to play so we needed a win, pretty good if i say so myself,anyway,the controls would be easy, nunchuk for glove, wiimote is the stick, and maybe press B and Z to drop to your knees. somone made a comment about skating, that would just be done with the joystick, we don't have to go crazy with motion sensing ya know. and somone said c for speed burst, that would be a good idea.
__________________
I don't need a ps3 i already have a toilet i just pwnd u sony!

pm me if you actually understand my sig...
scubasteve is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 01:18 AM   #7
 
Deadpoolio's Avatar
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 20
Friends: 0

View Deadpoolio's Profile   View Deadpoolio's Photo Album   View Deadpoolio's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Having an NHL game for the Wii would be amazing however I think that it would take a while to even work on the dynamics of the game.
I would have to agree that the passing and shooting would have to be associated with the A and B buttons.
In regards to threading passes, I think that as long as you point in the direction you want the pass to go with the Nunchuk joystick, the pass should be effective.
Agreed on the skating issue. Skating should just be done with the joystick, no need to over complicate things.
As far as shooting is concerned, there would have to be an option in the settings to determine the handness of the gamer. Options between right and left should be chosen, where the on screen player just mocks the gamer's movements regardless of the hand.
I believe that it would be better and more effective to have dedicated buttons to assist in checking (body and poke) as well as hooking and blocking. Some of the movements are hard to do and mapped buttons would definetly help.
Tactics could be controlled via the D-Pad on the Wii Remote.

Also, who said EA had to come out and develop this game. I'm sure someone will try and take on this challenge, EA or not.
Deadpoolio is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 02:53 AM   #8
 
ilikecookies's Avatar
MLG fan
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: B.C.E.
Posts: 1,168
Friends: 0

View ilikecookies's Profile   View ilikecookies's Photo Album   View ilikecookies's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
I would love to see hockey come to the wii but it is hard to make the controlls, it's going to be "neat" to see how they do if it comes.

p.s. the goalie idea would rock
__________________
ilikecookies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 04:20 AM   #9
 
scubasteve's Avatar
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 390
Friends: 0

View scubasteve's Profile   View scubasteve's Photo Album   View scubasteve's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Hellz yea, I'm thinking about doin goalie permanently, it was so fun, and everytime i made a save somone congradulated me, i don't score a whole lot so im not quite used to being the "hero" of the game if you know what i mean.
__________________
I don't need a ps3 i already have a toilet i just pwnd u sony!

pm me if you actually understand my sig...
scubasteve is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 04:38 AM   #10
 
StevenNevets's Avatar
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,710
Friends: 0

View StevenNevets's Profile   View StevenNevets's Photo Album   View StevenNevets's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Um, they won't read the post, anywhere, ever... You can try emailing it to them but you'll just get an auto-reply or they'll delete it.

Discusion of the game is good but unless you work for one of the top game sites or manage to get millions of peoples attention to where the info is bound to get to them don't bother trying to get them to read it.


Sorry to tell you but that's just how this is, getting suggestions to developers in general by yourself is something that can ussualy only be done with small games and small companys (such as little mmos)
__________________


a;lfjljljf2;lasf
StevenNevets is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 04:48 AM   #11
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Friends: 0

View WiiTim's Profile   View WiiTim's Photo Album   View WiiTim's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Where do I look to for help?
That's right....EA doesn't have to be the one, but I've played their hockey games the most and I just want it done right. I just think EA has the most money to devote developers to doing it right. Is there any game developer out there who are hardcore hockey fans that can make this game? (Wishful thinking)
I love all the suggestions so far, especially the goalie idea. That'll be great if the expand the controls in the fighting modes.

Anyone like the idea of having optional automatic or manual stick handling modes? I got hands of stone, but some skilled hockey players would probably like to stick handle their own way in the game.
WiiTim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 07:50 AM   #12
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 19
Friends: 0

View Eif87's Profile   View Eif87's Photo Album   View Eif87's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Good ideas. But instead of EA, why don't you send them to 2K sports. The NHL 2K series are way better than EA in terms of realism and control scheme. I've played ice hockey for almost 15 years now, and I can tell you that playing a game of NHL 2K7 is as close as the real thing as you will ever get. But, if you want Arcady gameplay and good graphics, stick with EA I guess
Eif87 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 07:53 AM   #13
 
FWELR's Avatar
Bonds Passes Hank 8/7/07
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 1,676
Friends: 0

View FWELR's Profile   View FWELR's Photo Album   View FWELR's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Eif87: I agree with you that 2K makes better sports game than EA. More realistic, anyway. I disagree with you that sending it to 2K will do you any good, seeing as how EA decided to jump on the Wii's bandwagon early, with lots of ports of other games (Godfather, SSX Blur), plus adding most of their sports franchises over (Madden, Tiger Woods, NBA Live for 08). We know that EA will make a hockey game, will 2K?
__________________
Join the Buy BWii Campaign and Buy BWii!
Spoiler Alert!
FWELR is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2007, 04:40 AM   #14
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 19
Friends: 0

View Eif87's Profile   View Eif87's Photo Album   View Eif87's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Good point FWELR. I guess I can't really complain about EA anymore, because they have been huge supporters of the Wii (and Godfather is simply amazing). It was just wishful thinking on my part :-) Would be an amazing game though
Eif87 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2007, 06:26 PM   #15
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Friends: 0

View WiiTim's Profile   View WiiTim's Photo Album   View WiiTim's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Good points on EA. They seem to be going full steam ahead with the Wii. Good news people. I just found an old high school friend who works with EA on motion capture animation. I'll send him this thread and see if he can direct us to the right person in charge of NHL 08.

BTW: any comments on the optional automatic or manual stickhandling with the wii remote?
WiiTim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2007, 06:36 PM   #16
 
FWELR's Avatar
Bonds Passes Hank 8/7/07
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 1,676
Friends: 0

View FWELR's Profile   View FWELR's Photo Album   View FWELR's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiiTim
BTW: any comments on the optional automatic or manual stickhandling with the wii remote?
yeah, should be optional. some hotshots will want it. beginners will get tired of it.
__________________
Join the Buy BWii Campaign and Buy BWii!
Spoiler Alert!
FWELR is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2007, 05:51 AM   #17
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Friends: 0

View WiiTim's Profile   View WiiTim's Photo Album   View WiiTim's Blog   View Social Groups
Tournaments Joined: 0
Tournament Wins: 0
At one point I saw the NHL 08 had a release date of September 19, but no it's gone. Maybe it's harder to develop than many think, because of the controls.
WiiTim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiStumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2007, 06:40 AM   #18
WiiChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 105
Friends: 0

View San Dimas's Profile   View San Dimas's Photo Album   View San Dimas's Blog