Metroid Prime 3 revolutionary?

Squall7 · 06-08-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GamerCon

such as Perfect Dark was to Golden Eye, but not a revolutionary one.

I think Perfect Dark did something that no others have done since: it made playable a multiplayer game into a single player one. It's got a tonne more features that were really quite innovative (psychosis gun, laptop gun, remote controlled rocket launchers, the ability to actually instruct computer players to do different things etc). Though I agree it didn't "revolutionise". I think people need to realise that whether it's revolutionary or not, it will still be a game that looks incredibly promising.

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The lack of online play is needed if they want it to look as good as it can.

I'm not too bothered about online tbh. It's always better to have a few people round, with some beers, dorritos and such. I appreciate that online would be nice, but not essential for it's success.

GamerCon · 06-08-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall7

It's got a tonne more features that were really quite innovative

Agreed, with everything. It was innovative. I love that game.

So MP3 will not be revolutionary, just innovative. Is that better?

Wiinter · 06-08-2007, 11:45 PM

The game is pretty obviously evolutionary, not revolutionary. What gives it the potential to be one of the greats is not some unbelievable innovation or creativity, but rock-solid execution and the ability for pin-point accuracy (tight controls are a common Nintendo strength). Online play, doubtful as it is, would give a bigger audience greater access to that execution and more reason to get deeper into the game, further ingraining MP3 into our hearts and minds.

It isn't really an insult to say that something isn't revolutionary. Frequently the first company to do something isn't the one that survives. Being first comes with many pitfalls and perils. Usually, the company that comes in behind the revolutionaries and learns from all their mistakes and triumphs succeed.

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lets just hope nintendo tells everyone the release date for this game at E3, along with other crucial info about Wii. Can we say possible harddrive?

The release date is late August (20th?) and was announced several weeks ago. Given the speed at which Nintendo is approaching online activity (Very, very slowly), I'd be amazed to see an HD come in at E3. But I wouldn't be surprised the rumor of new hardware being into'd was true.

Squall7 · 06-09-2007, 12:12 AM

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Usually, the company that comes in behind the revolutionaries and learns from all their mistakes and triumphs succeed.

Absolutely, just like the Dreamcast and online play.

Interestingly though, it seems to have become a deal-breaking feature. I think Nintendo were right to hold out of online til this long - it's not making it standard, it's a creditable feature. Also the fact that there were tonnes of people that didn't have broadband speed internet access back in 2001. I know I didn't (not at home anyway).

DazzeL · 06-09-2007, 01:24 AM

Your all entirely correct. Of course, you could interpret 'revolutionary' as the first game to do something. I suppose that's fair. All I was saying is that I don't think that's the best way of terming it. I class something as 'revolutionary' only when it actually creates a revolution; i.e. changing how a genre/game is played that is taken as the new standard.

Anyone I think we've exhausted that topic

As for online I think it's really important for any game to become "big" these days. I wouldn't say I agree with Nintendos pace, but it does seem to be quickening. I think it was right to hold off last gen but they should of done more this gen. Still, it does seem to be coming. Just not for Metroid.

LevesqueIsKing · 06-09-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GamerCon

The Wiimote was 'revolutionary' sure but since they already have a few shooters, making a new one wouldnt be considered a revolution. Final Fantasy 7 wasnt a revolution, it was 3D and things but the same thing as the other ones. MP3 is just a FPS that uses the Wiimote, there are a lot of FPS's that use the Wiimote. Really think about what a revolution is.
If i sound like a dick, toasty. So your a little more closed minded then me, oh well. I have a Wii and some FPS games for it so i already know what the layout of MP3 will be like.

On the contrary, it WILL BE the first fps to use the wii-remote nunchuk to it's (nearly)full potential. You cannot disagree with that.

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Originally Posted by ciper

Actually it is on the believers to prove to everyone else that MP3 is a revolution.

You misread my comment. I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by GamerCon

Agreed, with everything. It was innovative. I love that game.

So MP3 will not be revolutionary, just innovative. Is that better?

Imo, no, it isnt. It is somewhere inbetween revolutionary and innovative. Why? Because every single wii game that uses motion controls is innovative. Innovative wont cut it for MP3, just like MP3 wont cut it for revolutionary.

Its simply...revolinnovative

SuppaRoy · 06-09-2007, 09:05 PM

Metroid prime 3 will mostly sell to the people that have played and loved the first 2. SSBM, SMG, and Halo 3 are going to EVERYBODY cause you dont need any other games to get into the bandwagon of these games. SSBM cause it hasnt changed that much SMG cause everybody loves mario and HAlo 3 cause anybody that owns a xbox 360 knows wut halo 3 is all about and will buy it for the online play. Also now a days if a game doesnt have online, its considered not up to the times. So Metroid prime 3......you know

G3n0cide · 06-10-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SuppaRoy

Metroid prime 3 will mostly sell to the people that have played and loved the first 2. SSBM, SMG, and Halo 3 are going to EVERYBODY cause you dont need any other games to get into the bandwagon of these games. SSBM cause it hasnt changed that much SMG cause everybody loves mario and HAlo 3 cause anybody that owns a xbox 360 knows wut halo 3 is all about and will buy it for the online play. Also now a days if a game doesnt have online, its considered not up to the times. So Metroid prime 3......you know

Not necessarily.. People who like the FPS genre may be inclined to buy MP3 as there really aren't any other decent FPS's out YET. I for one have never played Metroid 1 or 2 and plan on buying MP3..

Celestial · 06-10-2007, 01:22 PM

I've got Metroid Prime, and Prime 2.. but I can't remember playing them

Squall7 · 06-10-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Celestial

I've got Metroid Prime, and Prime 2.. but I can't remember playing them

I got both. I was very impressed with Metroid Prime, but I haven't played the second one, as it requires 60hz TV. My TV is very old, and cannot do that...

Still, I've got a while to play it (Being in the UK especially)...

Celestial · 06-10-2007, 01:29 PM

I should play it then, was probably my brother who bought them and played it

Squall7 · 06-12-2007, 05:37 PM

Slightly off Topic:

Here's an awesome wallpaper of Metroid vs Halo.

Obviously user created, and because it's soo big, I won't post the image here, but take a look if your internet connection can handle it:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2...oidhalodj1.jpg

CyanRussel · 06-13-2007, 07:16 PM

I've got Metroid Prime 2 and played it, had for 2 years and havent beat it yet!!!
The maps are just to freakiing complicated (Notice the two i's, thats how complex the game is)

But i would still get MP3, hopefully the map would easier to look and deal with, than the one on MP2

LevesqueIsKing · 06-14-2007, 05:03 PM

^I have to admit, I relied on a walkthough for a few parts of MP@. It was EXTREMELY confusing. Hopefully MP3 is a slight bit more direct in what your mission is, without being too linear.

Kind of like Zelda, you know what you have to accomplish, but you can still visit shops, ride around hyrule field, talk to some people, beat the shit out of some goblin things, etc.

CyanRussel · 06-14-2007, 05:36 PM

^Very agreeable, hopefully the representatives/developers at Nintendo Headquarters are putting their mind into the stuff like the things we're talking about^