The Conduit First Review!!!

Skorp

I'm really curious to see how the game sells. If it didn't have that much hype and came out of the blue everyone would be praising it. No More Heroes got a 7.8 from IGN. A score it deserved and people love it so much. An 8.6 is pretty solid, especially if the multiplayer is well done.

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raisinghelen

The rough amounts that I've heard were:

Wii - $5 million
360/PS3 - $20 million

So there is instantly more chance of a profit on the Wii even if the game only sells around 100k. With the current financial climate I would guess that is why a lot of games have been switched from 360/PS3 to the Wii.

I would also guess that the $5 million is for a top tier title, so a budget game would likely cost a lot less than that.

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Godwind

Everything that Halo did was done bigger and better with better games. It is mediocre on every level. Everything is generic. The enemies are crap. The game isn't that intense (thanks to lower frame rate and regenerative health). The lack of tactics is thanks to regenerative health (which focuses on camping to be successful and hiding like a pansy to recover health). Don't tell me that they didn't dumb down the genre. It provides only two weapons to carry. Some of the best weapons of video gaming came from id such as the rail gun, BFG, and many more. Plus you want to tell me that Halo measures up to games like Half-Life? It isn't biased, your just blinded by ignorance.

For some people, mediocre games are good enough for them.

For me, with the FPS market being so large, I expect higher quality stuff. I happen to have better things to spend my money on.

Simply put, predictability. It happens to be the way FPSes usual are going. So far, two reviewers have called it "like goldeneye and perfect dark". I never played those two series but perhaps I was off. I will give it a shot.

It isn't about a game I could "careless" about. Every time there is a discussion about first person shooters, Halo comes up. It isn't like a condition is exclusive to Nintendo related things. This comes up even when talking about Sony related games such as Killzone 2, Resistance series and other games. Halo is, as it is, a mediocre shooter that people like to place as the measurement of what FPSes should be.

Also don't tell me that it my opinions are based on nothing. I have been stating it as it is. Of course, you have yet to truly refute what I laid out. If someone was to say that Halo sucks, I would probably think they are being an absolute dipshits because the game is at least functions and contains content.

Bad controls can also kill a game. If people can't navigate through the games properly, it will leave people to hate it. In fact bad controls in Wii games have been part of why people dislike the Wii. Nintendo also makes some of the best controllers of all time. The only good contenders were Sega and Atari. Atari2600, first decent controller. Atari 5200, for innovations such as a pause button. The NES controller for the D-pad. Genesis for the the eight-way controller. SNES controller for the diamond button layout and shoulder buttons. The N64 controller for developing the analog controller and an expansion bay. The Saturn 3D controller for analog triggers and full 360 analog stick. I am also going to go out my way and say the Dualshock is the most versatile controller, also for including dual analog control. The Wii gets brownie points for the first Motion controller that was done correctly (there were motion controls before the Wii, the Wii just happen to nail it).

I would disagree. Last time I checked, I was calling The Conduit a Halo/Metroid clone. Now I am calling a Halo/GoldenEye/Perfect Dark clone.

If Halo was a Nintendo IP, I would still call it mediocre. Most Nintendo fans (like myself), tend to be multi-platform. In my opinion, Kid Icarus is a mediocre platformer. I don't understand the love that Earthbound gets from fans (granted, it is unique but the combat is boring and so is the exploration). I have yet to play Star Tropics and still have no interest in playing the game. Duck Hunt sucks and is buggy as hell. The first FZero sucked. Mario edutainment stuff is crap. Pokemon stopped being great after Gold and Silver, saphire/ruby were ok and Pearl/diamond sucked. Hey You Pikachu suffered from bad controls (oh shit, it had bad controls, a nintendo game. The world is to end.) Never bought Pikmin. Battalion Wars 2 sucked. Odama is likely garbage. The Virtua Boy has no interest. Nintendogs is likely a waste of my time.

Not every consumer buys their console towards the beginning of the console generation, some buy it at the end. The Xbox and Gamecube sold 24 million consoles over the course of 5/6 years respectably. The PS2 sold 140 over the course of 8 years. There is a huge advantage to waiting towards the end of a generation (games are cheaper, a vastly large library and et cetera). Even myself, I am still picking up PS2 and gamecube games. In fact I recently got Metal Gear Solid for the PS1 recently.

There are multiplatform users that are still interested in this game. Also keep in mind that other platforms have crappy shooters. Online multiplayer is still an incentive since people will still buy a game on that alone.

Your not an analyst, you're a forum troll. Michael Pachter is an analyst. Since you consider Halo a good game, I would never trust you with my money.

Pfft, you play Halo.

Depends on the game. Final Fantasy 7 cost $49 million to develop even though most games back than cost $1-$3 million. Games like Gears of War and Halo cost about $50 to $70 million dollars. The cost to develop a game for the Wii is between $1 million to $10 million

Sovieto

I stopped at your first post. It was all a matter of your opinion and preference with little to back it up other than 'I didn't like it'. So I figured the rest of the post would be a waste, until you can come up with something better for the first bit though, I won't go on. And I'm not one to usually bitch out when it comes to long posts, since I make them myself.

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manufan15

I, too, wish that everyone would stop comparing every FPS to Halo. Halo isn't even that great of a game. And the community just kills it. Too many screaming, cursing 10 year olds on Xbox Live. The game is too sluggish. Not being able to sprint is a pain in the ass.

It takes WAY too long to freakin kill someone. The weapons just don't feel right to me. Like Godwind said, the enemies are just dumb. There's nothing epic about it except for the music.

Of course this is all my opinion, and it's a solid FPS no doubt, but it's far from the "king" of the genre that every game should be compared to.

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Sovieto

Yeah, I didn't like how it took so long to kill people either, that's why I played SWAT when I owned it and was happy I had a choice. Other than that, the community is fine when you discover the mute option and not having a sprint does suck, but let me guess, you're comparing this to CoD?

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manufan15

Well, not exactly. I do enjoy CoD more than Halo, but I just think in general that it takes too long to kill someone in normal modes. CoD does have all of the features that I mentioned, and it enhances the experience for me.

I also think it takes too long to kill someone in Killzone 2, but having that sprint button is nice. But you're partly right, I do think that in Core modes in Cod4 it takes just the right amount of bullets to kill someone.

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castlezelda

stop comparing a game to another game, thats stupid, like tale Halo compared to the Conduit...who cares. Some people enjoyed Halo, others didn't, The conduit is the "read FPS on the wii thats very good but people compare to much about anything. every game has its ups and downs. Can't please everyone gosh people.

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i may pick this up later.

this guy is as excited as a 5 year old.

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Ok, that is what's wrong with America as a nation. LOL

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stickmode

Anyone checked the Gamepro review, is completely awful (3 1/2). I blame Gamepro to let a Wii hater review a great Wii game like The Conduit.

Personally I consider a score no less than 9.5, but I pleased with IGN 8.6 score.

Why?

Becose for me The Conduit is far better than Halo3 and HaloDST. Just for better customisable controls and graphics as close any xbox360 standart game and an outstanding online multiplayer mode.

raisinghelen

Which do you prefer overall, Killzone 2 or COD4? A lot of PS3 owners seemed like they didn't care about the possibility of losing the COD series on PS3 because they had Killzone.

I've heard Perfect Dark mentioned in The Conduit's reviews so I think that I'll be picking it up tomorrow despite it sounding rather short and cliched. I doubt that it'll get big sales though because Sega doesn't seem to have promoted it much outside of regular gaming circles. If I was High Voltage I'd have insisted on having some TV spots as part of the publishing rights, i'm sure that would have boosted sales a lot.

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RivalDestiny 

Then, I guess you'll be hating a lot of review sites from now on.

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Hi11Zone

sry i haven't been on guys i was on liek every day ketching up with my new wii. So from what iv seen of Conduit looks amazing some reviews are off. But i still need to play and see what it is really worth

Kage848

Stickmode that review was a JOKE!

Did you read it? All they did was bash the graphic's capability of the Wii. "The Conduit doesn't blow Goldeneye's graphics out of the water". Um what? Also they say "they did a great job of squeezing every last drop of performance out of the Wii's tiny, bumblebee-like engine." This "review" reads like it was done by a 14 year old fanboy. Its so unprofesional i cant believe what i read.

Ok we all know the Wii is not known for its graphic's but come on this game looks good.

Then they say

"The funny thing is, after wrestling with the terrible controls"

and in the same paragraph

"I will admit that the weapon aiming, a crucial aspect of FPS games that I've never really enjoyed on the Wii or any console game for that matter (I'm a diehard keyboard and mouse fan), is actually handled really well in The Conduit. I'd go so far as to say it's the best I've seen in a Wii title"

Wich one is it terrible controls or not?

Also i cant find the quotes where he says he didnt play the multiplayer but he didnt.

This is why Metacritic dosent work.

You really need to read these things ( Not You Stickmode i just re-read your post and know you read it ) and see what these reviewers are talking about. This guy was talking out of his F'in @ss.

IGN is the real deal. Well at least i have the same tastes as them. They have never steered me wrong.

RivalDestiny 

This is the reason why I never rely on review sites or preferences on other peoples' biases. If I have an interest in the game, I'll go on my system and directly download the demo and try it myself.

There are many gems out there with a rating between 65-70% range, it's just people overlook the actual game and simply read the score and base their opinion off of that number.

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Sovieto

JUST for better customizable controls and graphics? So you think The Conduit is better than Halo 3 because it can almost look as good as a standard 360 game? Then customizable controls, wheres the deal in this? Do you mean because its on the Wii?

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Skorp

Yeah the graphics don't compare to 360 graphics. They're still very good for the wii though and I'm perfectly happy right now with my purchase. As far as Halo vs Conduit, they are very similar. Halo wins on graphics and polish because its been out for longer. I can't wait to see what The Conduit 3 would be like. But as far as controls go, wiimote beats dual analog anyday for pure aiming FPS control. Throwing grenades works surprising well but I'm going to remap the weapon thrust thing cause its hard to thrust at the right time and keep the remote straight when you're in a frantic battle.

After a few disconnects and frustration I finally got in some good games and they were fantastic fun. I may never go back to single player, the multiplayer is well worth $50 if you enjoy FPSes at all.

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manufan15

Ehh, I don't really know actually I love them both. Killzone 2 has a deeper multiplayer experience for me, with all of the unlockables and clan support. But I'd say the gameplay in Cod4 is a bit better suited to me. But Killzone 2's graphics are unmatched in the FPS genre...but I liked Cod4's campaign better.

So you see, I like them for different reasons.

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Frog

I rented it and payed 8 of 9 levels. I really enjoyed it. The music, menus, and storyline were cool. In some ways it reminds me of Perfect Dark(spy stuff) and Deus Ex(Conspiracies, setting, some of the tech), Half Life(some of the art), and Halo (only 2 weapons, monster voices, and definitely one of the creatures)

The online on the other hand I coud not get to work at all. It connects and gets a full field of players but nothing happens when the game starts. Probably my crap connection though.

I'd give the game an 8 and it was killer rental. Definitely no Halo though. But it is better than I expected. Especially the storyline and music!