MarioKart: Graphics vs. Controls

T3kNi9e · 06-23-2008, 06:32 AM

bruce, bruce, bruce. Posting in the Wii forums does nothing because the majority bought the Wii for using motion controls so of course most would prefer the Wii wheel to the traditional style. But there are also millions of 360, PS3 and even PC gamers who all prefer a traditional controller by a long shot over a Wii wheel or even a wireless steering wheel.

Want to know why I know this? Because if you ask in these forums whether people prefer Wii mote aiming for FPS or a traditional controller, just about everyone prefers the Wii mote. But if you go to the PS3 or 360 forums they all hate the Wii mote because they say it's inaccurate, uncomfortable, annoying, etc. etc.

Keep in mind to anyone who decides to reply to me. Yes, a traditional controller can be extremely accurate in FPS. Just because you are newbs who can't get a head shot while jumping in the air and someone is running in circles doesn't mean it can't be done. There's alot of people who can easily get head shots with a sniper on there first try and ive seen alot of people miss constantly on MoH:H2. So just because YOU suck with a controller doesn't make it inaccurate.

Anyway, my point is none is better and none are more fun, because in the end it's all depends on the person. I'll take traditional controller for racing games anyday

Zorba · 06-23-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by T3kNi9e

Want to know why I know this? Because if you ask in these forums whether people prefer Wii mote aiming for FPS or a traditional controller, just about everyone prefers the Wii mote. But if you go to the PS3 or 360 forums they all hate the Wii mote because they say it's inaccurate, uncomfortable, annoying, etc. etc.

and if you go to a pc forum they will say that they prefer the keyboard and mouse set up for FPS games, etc etc.

your not going to get an unbiased opinion from anyone. you will never hear a wii owner saying "i prefer the controls of the ps3" or vice versa. the only people that can truly have any arguments in this thread are people who have owned all consoles.

Sovieto · 06-23-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

and if you go to a pc forum they will say that they prefer the keyboard and mouse set up for FPS games, etc etc.

your not going to get an unbiased opinion from anyone. you will never hear a wii owner saying "i prefer the controls of the ps3" or vice versa. the only people that can truly have any arguments in this thread are people who have owned all consoles.

i can say for surely that for competitive play, people will take a 360/ps3 controller over a wiimote any day, even the wii owners (unless theyre retarded).

Guster · 06-23-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovieto

i can say for surely that for competitive play, people will take a 360/ps3 controller over a wiimote any day, even the wii owners (unless theyre retarded).

What kind of competitive play? Surely, it depends on the genre of game.

If it were me, I would play with a 360/PS3 controller for a tactical shooter (like Rainbow Six or something). But if it were a shooter that operated like house of the dead, then hand me the Wiimote.

There's no way that you could play a game like Trauma Center with a 360/PS3 controller. Surely, even if there were a way to, it would be more competitive to play with the Wiimote than a controller with sticks.

To be honest, all it seems is that you are only trying to stir up some trouble.

captainff · 06-23-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovieto

i can say for surely that for competitive play, people will take a 360/ps3 controller over a wiimote any day, even the wii owners (unless theyre retarded).

Why the use of the word retarded? Do you have some personal issues to share (please don't)?

I'd rather use the wiimote / nunchuk combination that allows some freedom of movement in my hand position than a PS2/3/Xbox controller that means having my hands in a fixed position as it reduces the amount of cramping in my hands and arms during a long gaming session.

f[i]Rebat · 06-23-2008, 10:13 AM

I think a lot of the time, using the wiimote to slash and shoot is fun, but when you think about it, instead of pressing a button, you're now just flicking the controller...

well you would be if the wii actually had some decent games that used motion sensing

Sovieto · 06-23-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Guster

What kind of competitive play? Surely, it depends on the genre of game.

If it were me, I would play with a 360/PS3 controller for a tactical shooter (like Rainbow Six or something). But if it were a shooter that operated like house of the dead, then hand me the Wiimote.

There's no way that you could play a game like Trauma Center with a 360/PS3 controller. Surely, even if there were a way to, it would be more competitive to play with the Wiimote than a controller with sticks.

To be honest, all it seems is that you are only trying to stir up some trouble.

wtf who would play house of the dead or trauma center competitively? MAYBE house of the dead but youd do that at an arcade anyways where the actual gun it uses is dominant over the wiimote.

the main game for competitive play is the shooter. second to that is fighters/brawlers. and we already know wii owners are smart enough to use a LAST GEN controller for brawl while playing.

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Why the use of the word retarded? Do you have some personal issues to share (please don't)?

I'd rather use the wiimote / nunchuk combination that allows some freedom of movement in my hand position than a PS2/3/Xbox controller that means having my hands in a fixed position as it reduces the amount of cramping in my hands and arms during a long gaming session.

really? youre saying a 360 or PS3 controller is what would cause cramping? ever hear of something called wii-elbow? your post honestly sounds like a joke saying that.... ive never cramped once on a 360/ps3 controller and ive played a 360 for 12+ hours straight. though, i have cramped on the wii in 10 minutes just playing rampage.. god that game is awful.

Bob#4 · 06-23-2008, 04:05 PM

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Brawl was everything I hoped it to be, plus more. You guys just expected too much of it and more than likely forgot the whole concept of Smash Bros.

I agree, but the online was definitely a disappointment. Either way, Brawl can never get repetitive if you play with a friend, and if you have a lot of friends coming over you can easily spend the entire day playing this.

Over-hyped? Maybe a little. But the game is fantastic, and yes, it is the biggest game on the console (being that it's the only game people would buy a Wii for).

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Why the use of the word retarded?

Do you have an issue with people using the word retarded? It's a wonderful word.

festivaman · 06-23-2008, 04:19 PM

personal issues with the wii controller for me got fixed when i learned to play with it. still issues with fighters as i use the classic controller but i could never go back to playing shooters with classic controllers (360/ps3/gc). it takes some getting used to (as does everything) but was well worth it to me.

T3kNi9e · 06-23-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

and if you go to a pc forum they will say that they prefer the keyboard and mouse set up for FPS games, etc etc.

your not going to get an unbiased opinion from anyone. you will never hear a wii owner saying "i prefer the controls of the ps3" or vice versa. the only people that can truly have any arguments in this thread are people who have owned all consoles.

Exactly, which is why I don't understand why people make these types of threads because it's pointless. It does nothing but add to their ego for making the "right decision".

T3kNi9e · 06-23-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by captainff

Why the use of the word retarded? Do you have some personal issues to share (please don't)?

I'd rather use the wiimote / nunchuk combination that allows some freedom of movement in my hand position than a PS2/3/Xbox controller that means having my hands in a fixed position as it reduces the amount of cramping in my hands and arms during a long gaming session.

Yea, im going to go with Sovieto, this was a stupid comment. This is a perfect example of a fanboy using any excuse to justify their decision no matter how stupid or little the reason.

captainff · 06-23-2008, 05:48 PM

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Yea, im going to go with Sovieto, this was a stupid comment. This is a perfect example of a fanboy using any excuse to justify their decision no matter how stupid or little the reason.

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i have cramped on the wii in 10 minutes just playing rampage.. god that game is awful.

And you say my comment is fanboyism? The quality of one game doesn't make a controller either good or bad, only the game.

FFS I was playing games before most of you were even born. I've played on EVERY major gaming platform that was released since 1982 while they were current and not as some 'retro fun'. I've got a fair few control systems to compare against through first hand experience. Because I prefer the wiimote / nunchuk combination over a traditional gaming pad is hardly fanboyism.

You may not agree with my opinions but they are presented as opinion unlike some who post their opinions as irrefutable fact and resent anyone who dares to disagree.

Sovieto · 06-23-2008, 06:13 PM

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And you say my comment is fanboyism? The quality of one game doesn't make a controller either good or bad, only the game.

FFS I was playing games before most of you were even born. I've played on EVERY major gaming platform that was released since 1982 while they were current and not as some 'retro fun'. I've got a fair few control systems to compare against through first hand experience. Because I prefer the wiimote / nunchuk combination over a traditional gaming pad is hardly fanboyism.

You may not agree with my opinions but they are presented as opinion unlike some who post their opinions as irrefutable fact and resent anyone who dares to disagree.

the fact that a game was able to bring me more pain than enjoyment is sad. yes that is just one game and doesnt call out the wiimote as whole, i was just using it as an example of how the wiimote can wear you out as opposed to a traditional controller (cause let me tell you i beat rampage world tour in one day on the n64 and had no problems).

Boethiah · 06-23-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sovieto

i can say for surely that for competitive play, people will take a 360/ps3 controller over a wiimote any day, even the wii owners (unless theyre retarded).

Then I guess I'm retarded.

captainff · 06-23-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sovieto

the fact that a game was able to bring me more pain than enjoyment is sad. yes that is just one game and doesnt call out the wiimote as whole, i was just using it as an example of how the wiimote can wear you out as opposed to a traditional controller (cause let me tell you i beat rampage world tour in one day on the n64 and had no problems).

Fair enough.

I'm assuming that the game used the wiimote as a tacked on control method rather than being specifically designed for it?

As I said way back near the start of the thread each to his / her own. You don't like it (as is obvious from your posts around the forum) but others like me have found that it works well for them. Personal taste and all that. Same for games too.

The classic controller .. .. .. .. IMO that sucks.. .. ..

Brawny · 06-23-2008, 06:29 PM

When the current generation is ~50, auto-manufacturers are working on going to a joystick steering setup...

So will videogames in 30 years be more realistic that way? XD

bruceleroy · 06-23-2008, 06:41 PM

This thread turned into wii controls vs gamecube/ps3/360 controllers. With the way the wii is selling right now, sony and microsoft has no other options but to copy the wii's controls. In fact, i think sony is already in process of making one at this moment. And once they do imitate, that's when competitive play that sovieto mentioned will turn out to be waggle-fest.