The Conduit - Official Thread

[Caliko]

Originally Posted by Atomheart

1. Better enemy AI - Most of the time the enemies didn't look terribly intelligent. Rarely, if ever, did they take cover or engage in any other tactical behaviors. Worse, at other times they were downright stupid, by getting stuck and running against objects and such (e.g., when the enemy got stuck in the hole and ran in place).

Just a heads up. One of the developers said they were still working on the AI.
The game is far from completed and High Voltage seems to be taking its time something a lot of Wii developers aren't doing. I like the way they work.

[raisinghelen]

Originally Posted by Zorba

and for me, split screen multiplayer on a FPS is rediculous. if you think about it, you able to see the other persons point of view. that means that the only time it would be worth playing is for cooperative. otherwise forget about trying to sneak up or running to hide.

It depends on the game maybe. Splitscreen multiplayer was one of the best things in Goldeneye or Perfect Dark. Everyone going into a panic because they've seen someone pick up the golden gun kind of made it more fun.

[linuxghost]

Also, split screen multiplayer isn't always competitive... for team-based online modes, the people sharing your screen could be on your same team, and won't care if you see their half or not.

[1337endo]

Personally, if HV didn't include split screen, it wouldn't bother me too much. If they did have it though, it would be nice. I am just excited about the online w/ voice chat!

IT BETTER BE LAG FREE(Obviously not completely)!

[Atomheart]

Originally Posted by CantGetAWii

Well theres nothing they can do about the sound really, Wii uses damn Dolby Pro Logic II so what do you expect? It sounds alright to me, not mindblowing or over the top but still good.

It's not about sound processers or Dolby this, Dolby that. They've used pretty terrible sound files in the game. Like I said, I literally heard sound files from the ORIGINAL Doom (what's it now, about 15 years old) at least once in the few minutes of footage that was shown.

It's not Dolby; it's just crappy sound files.

[Atomheart]

Originally Posted by George

People who say this is the first proper fps on wii obviously hav'nt heard of MP3 and MOH:H2...

MOHH2 wasn't that good of a game. The only redeeming quality of the game are the excellent controls. Otherwise, it's lackluster at best. Single player is a joke, and the online is riddled with basic flaws and becomes boring within a few short hours. Even the original SOCOM blew this game out of the water in terms of online quality.

Hopefully, The Conduit will finally bring the Wii with some quality online action. Now if only they don't require 10,000 bullets to bring someone down (ala MOHH2).

Originally Posted by Bob#4

If you don't like split screen, you don't have to play it. However, there are plenty of people that WOULD like to play it, and leaving it out would just be dumb. Regardless of how many points you can put up against it, there's no point in just not having it vs. having the option, as it's easy to implement and won't interfere with the development.

Leaving out something optional is always a bad idea if it doesn't hurt development time or other parts of the game.

Considering they're still trying to lock single player down to 30 FPS, I doubt they'll include a split screen mode as it'd like chug quite a bit. Anyone remember playing Perfect Dark split screen? It chugged like crazy even with only two people. For some reason, I can imagine HVS not wanting that to be the case and just leaving split screen out, especially considering very few members of the target audience would probably even use it. Split screen FPS games died a long time ago. Are any of the 360/PS3 shooters split screen?

[Bob#4]

Originally Posted by Atomheart

Split screen FPS games died a long time ago. Are any of the 360/PS3 shooters split screen?

Call of Duty, that I know of. I'm sure there are others. And it is insanely fun. And there isn't a more awkward moment than inviting a friend over, playing an awesome FPS, and he goes "Hey, let's play each other!" and you have to answer that with "Erm, this game doesn't have split screen". And you just glare at each other for a few seconds, then nod your heads in disappointment. This is even worse when you have a sibling.

I'm sticking to my statement, there's no reason to leave it out unless it hinders the game.

[linuxghost]

All the Halo games are split-screen online.

[vashivihan]

all you people complainig about mohh2s online and how long it takes to kill someone blah blah... how lomg did you play the game for? you probably were flailling your arms around. because me and many other people on wiichat are easily able to kill people with 5-9 rounds easily. must be somethinkg to do with our skill eh?

[Atomheart]

Originally Posted by vashivihan

all you people complainig about mohh2s online and how long it takes to kill someone blah blah... how lomg did you play the game for? you probably were flailling your arms around. because me and many other people on wiichat are easily able to kill people with 5-9 rounds easily. must be somethinkg to do with our skill eh?

I played for quite a long time. I'd say at least 15-20 hours online. And it takes longer than that to get used to the controls in order to make kills, I'm sorry, but it's a problem with the game, not the player. One problem definitely is the HUMONGOUS reticle, though. That thing is just way too big. It covers half the person, yet only the tiniest dot in the center actually indicated where the shots would be going.

But yeah, I could take down people in around 10 or so shots, if a few were in the head. But that is still ridiculous. One shot to the head with any gun should take someone down. Three or four shots anywhere else should. Don't get me started with the shotgun, which required at least 2 shots (more like three or more) to take someone down. Shoot someone point blank with a shotgun in real life, and they'll be split in half.

The whole health regeneration thing was uber-annoying too and exacerbated the whole "taking-so-many-bullets-to-take-someone-down" thing. Unless you're out in the wide open (and you're stupid if you are), it's easy to duck behind something/around the corner/etc. and regenerate all your health after being one shot from death. It was just ridiculously cheesy.

[Fillieto]

Originally Posted by Atomheart

I played for quite a long time. I'd say at least 15-20 hours online. And it takes longer than that to get used to the controls in order to make kills, I'm sorry, but it's a problem with the game, not the player. One problem definitely is the HUMONGOUS reticle, though. That thing is just way too big. It covers half the person, yet only the tiniest dot in the center actually indicated where the shots would be going.

But yeah, I could take down people in around 10 or so shots, if a few were in the head. But that is still ridiculous. One shot to the head with any gun should take someone down. Three or four shots anywhere else should. Don't get me started with the shotgun, which required at least 2 shots (more like three or more) to take someone down. Shoot someone point blank with a shotgun in real life, and they'll be split in half.

The whole health regeneration thing was uber-annoying too and exacerbated the whole "taking-so-many-bullets-to-take-someone-down" thing. Unless you're out in the wide open (and you're stupid if you are), it's easy to duck behind something/around the corner/etc. and regenerate all your health after being one shot from death. It was just ridiculously cheesy.

Then why did you play it for 20 hours? Couldnt have been that bad.

If it was....WHY are you here talking about it? Go and buy another game/console that flaots your boat. Are you really this sad?

[George]

Originally Posted by Atomheart

MOHH2 wasn't that good of a game. The only redeeming quality of the game are the excellent controls. Otherwise, it's lackluster at best. Single player is a joke, and the online is riddled with basic flaws and becomes boring within a few short hours. Even the original SOCOM blew this game out of the water in terms of online quality.

Hopefully, The Conduit will finally bring the Wii with some quality online action. Now if only they don't require 10,000 bullets to bring someone down (ala MOHH2).




Considering they're still trying to lock single player down to 30 FPS, I doubt they'll include a split screen mode as it'd like chug quite a bit. Anyone remember playing Perfect Dark split screen? It chugged like crazy even with only two people. For some reason, I can imagine HVS not wanting that to be the case and just leaving split screen out, especially considering very few members of the target audience would probably even use it. Split screen FPS games died a long time ago. Are any of the 360/PS3 shooters split screen?

Alright then maybe not MOH but MP3 should still be remembered.

[vashivihan]

Originally Posted by Atomheart

I played for quite a long time. I'd say at least 15-20 hours online. And it takes longer than that to get used to the controls in order to make kills, I'm sorry, but it's a problem with the game, not the player. One problem definitely is the HUMONGOUS reticle, though. That thing is just way too big. It covers half the person, yet only the tiniest dot in the center actually indicated where the shots would be going.

But yeah, I could take down people in around 10 or so shots, if a few were in the head. But that is still ridiculous. One shot to the head with any gun should take someone down. Three or four shots anywhere else should. Don't get me started with the shotgun, which required at least 2 shots (more like three or more) to take someone down. Shoot someone point blank with a shotgun in real life, and they'll be split in half.

The whole health regeneration thing was uber-annoying too and exacerbated the whole "taking-so-many-bullets-to-take-someone-down" thing. Unless you're out in the wide open (and you're stupid if you are), it's easy to duck behind something/around the corner/etc. and regenerate all your health after being one shot from death. It was just ridiculously cheesy.

no i can tell you its definately a problem with the player. after 2 or 3 hours with the online and all the problems you mentioned become obsolete as your brain works around those problems. ask anyone that plays this game like subarnu, winter, thas, wezels, aowfraggit etc. and yes in the game, shotgun does kill you in one hit from point blank.

EDIT: so you would have it like this?: respawn, get hit in the head once, die, respawn, hit someone in the head, kill, get hit inthe head once, die.....

anyways, lets stay on topic shall we?

[FR.]

Originally Posted by Fillieto

Then why did you play it for 20 hours? Couldnt have been that bad.

If it was....WHY are you here talking about it? Go and buy another game/console that flaots your boat. Are you really this sad?

So now it's a crime that he played the game? He probably played online 20 hours to form a solid opinion on the game and attempt to master the controls. And why is he here talking about it? Maybe because he played the game and his stating his honest opinion...

[Zorba]

when did this stop being a conduit thread and start being a mohh2 thread?

besides, atomheart is a proven troller, i dont even read his posts anymore.

[vashivihan]

^ lmao

i would like to see duel wielding and flamethrower in this game but that prolly wont happen,

imagine onrails segments where wiimote is the right hand weapon and nunchuck is left hand. both have their own reticules. if that sort of thing is even possible with nunchuck. i also would like to see what kind of fire effects this engine can do. i loved the watrer effects in hte sewers in teh latest videos.

[AoWFraggit]

reasons i'm keeping my wii:

1.) the conduit
2.) guitar hero IV
3.) brawl
4.) cod5
5.) next zelda