Zelda Twilight Princess, Classic Controller.. yes?

Colmino · 12-01-2006, 10:10 PM

I toyed around with this one briefly at a friend's place. Long enough to realize that the control scheme is never going to grow on me. Fortunately, Nintendo had the laudable foresight to make available for purchase a perfectly acceptable traditional controller, which they call their "Classic Controller". And it plugs straight into the Wiimote, thus becoming a very doable combo for a mix of normal control and the occasional need to aim at something.

Add in the fact that the Gamecube will have little choice but to support a traditional control scheme, and this seems like a no-brainer that I should feel foolish for even asking about.

But... I need to ask. Does Twilight Princess allow one to use a real controller?

Or do I get to wait a little while and pick up the Gamecube version?

And on that note, what might the differences between the two versions be?

Homesrfan · 12-01-2006, 10:20 PM

You've been mislead. The Classic controller is for the old games that you can buy through the Wii. Called Virtual Console.

No Wii games (right now) support it as far as I know. Super Smash Bros Brawl is the only game that will support GC controller, that I have heard.

Colmino · 12-01-2006, 10:53 PM

That is disappointing.

I wouldn't say I was mislead. Nobody told me Zelda was going to support a normal controller. It just seemed, all things considered, such an obvious option that I am frankly willing to label the developers as situationally braindead. Or maybe so blinded by the potential of their fancy new control scheme that they literally never dreamed that somebody might want to play the game in a traditional mode.

Maybe they can patch the game via an update. I think I will just wait for them to do that.

vagrant · 12-02-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmino

That is disappointing.

I wouldn't say I was mislead. Nobody told me Zelda was going to support a normal controller. It just seemed, all things considered, such an obvious option that I am frankly willing to label the developers as situationally braindead. Or maybe so blinded by the potential of their fancy new control scheme that they literally never dreamed that somebody might want to play the game in a traditional mode.

Maybe they can patch the game via an update. I think I will just wait for them to do that.

You are in the minority. The new control scheme is a hit.

COLDshiver · 12-02-2006, 01:45 AM

Just get the GC version.

im_a_super_smash_bro · 12-02-2006, 01:46 AM

just a question.........can you use the vc controller for gamecube games?

Jenova · 12-02-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by im_a_super_smash_bro

just a question.........can you use the vc controller for gamecube games?

No, you can't.

And just one question: HOW do you not like the control scheme? It feels so much better, and more natural than the GCN control scheme...

phatboix91 · 12-02-2006, 01:52 AM

nope, GC games can only be played with GC controllers.

Blackjack · 12-02-2006, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Homesrfan

No Wii games (right now) support it as far as I know. Super Smash Bros Brawl is the only game that will support GC controller, that I have heard.

Wrong, Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi Supports the Wiimote AND the GC controller.

and seriously, how has it not grown on you?
O.O
Pretty sweet if you ask me, but thats my opinion....and possibly almost everyone elses.
I probably couldn't go back to a GC controller now seeing how much more comfortable the Wiimote is compared to it.
oh well.

Sam_Harris · 12-02-2006, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Homesrfan

You've been mislead. The Classic controller is for the old games that you can buy through the Wii. Called Virtual Console.

No Wii games (right now) support it as far as I know. Super Smash Bros Brawl is the only game that will support GC controller, that I have heard.

As stated above Dragon Ball supports and so does the Grim Adventures of BIlly and mandy

Homesrfan · 12-02-2006, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam_Harris

As stated above Dragon Ball supports and so does the Grim Adventures of BIlly and mandy

I didn't even know this. I guess that's because those are 2 titles I'm not looking forward to.

Colmino · 12-02-2006, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vagrant

You are in the minority. The new control scheme is a hit.

No offense, chief, but the "majority" you so fondly affix yourself to is not relevant to my concerns. And I bet the new control scheme would have been an even bigger hit had it not come complete with a small but undeniable bit of latency.

Colmino · 12-02-2006, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackjack

and seriously, how has it not grown on you?

This is not easy to answer. Have you ever played a RPG that let you control the rotation of the (third person) camera, but only in one direction - opposite of how you like? That's sort of how I feel using the Wiimote/chuck combo.

I would say I am used to performing all the fine control with my left thumb (I do happen to be left-handed) and less precise tasks (buttons, camera) with my right. But the Wiimote demands two left hands if I want the same level of control. I can't figure out which hand to use to hold which stick. This is a problem right-handers are not likely to encounter. They'll be using their right hand for the Wiimote for 100% of their games, and it is no transition at all for them to place that nunchuck's thumb pad in their left hand since they've been doing that for years. In essence, what the control scheme demands from me is tantamount to learning to use a mouse (with equal effectiveness) with my non-primary hand. This is difficult, uncomfortable, and - in light of how it could have been solved with the same controller support that the GC version will have - stupid.

vagrant · 12-02-2006, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmino

No offense, chief, but the "majority" you so fondly affix yourself to is not relevant to my concerns. And I bet the new control scheme would have been an even bigger hit had it not come complete with a small but undeniable bit of latency.

Get your shit fixed, because I don't know what latency you are referring to.

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In essence, what the control scheme demands from me is tantamount to learning to use a mouse (with equal effectiveness) with my non-primary hand. This is difficult, uncomfortable, and - in light of how it could have been solved with the same controller support that the GC version will have - stupid.

I have an amazing idea, switch the hand that the wiimote/nunchuk are in.

miiplaywii · 12-02-2006, 05:26 AM

If it wasn't for the pointer aim, I would be disappointed with the controls. I wouldn't say there's noticable latency but the hand movements you do are seen digitally to the game, they replace the push of a button. This game was mainly made for Gamecube. I expect in the next Zelda, designed for Wii, your specific hand motions will manipulate the way link swings the sword. I prefer these new controls but theres h u g e room for improvement.

vagrant · 12-02-2006, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by miiplaywii

If it wasn't for the pointer aim, I would be disappointed with the controls. I wouldn't say there's noticable latency but the hand movements you do are seen digitally to the game, they replace the push of a button. This game was mainly made for Gamecube. I expect in the next Zelda, designed for Wii, your specific hand motions will manipulate the way link swings the sword. I prefer these new controls but theres h u g e room for improvement.

The way link swings his sword and the movement to do it is that way for a reason. It has to wait for a move to finish before you can do another. You know, kind of like you would have to IN REAL LIFE.

Wow if this is the latency people have been referring to, then you are all just really stupid.

And if you thought you would have 100% control over links sword...then you are also just dumb, because that would kind of go against zelda games in general. That would kind of remove the point of having special attacks in the way that they are and have been.

JerrodDRagon · 12-02-2006, 07:43 AM

Zelda is pretty easy to get use to so I dotn care much, and DBZ HAD to of had the classic contoller work with it or else it would be just as hard to lay as Red Steel.

vagrant · 12-02-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JerrodDRagon

Zelda is pretty easy to get use to so I dotn care much, and DBZ HAD to of had the classic contoller work with it or else it would be just as hard to lay as Red Steel.

Red steel is easy to play. Unless you are under 12 or really bad at fps.