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05-14-2007, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by thoughtcrimnal84
You nintendo fanboys make me laugh. Acting like graphics don't matter. Gameplay is important, but when (6 months after release) only 1 game on the Wii is even worth a shite there is a problem. Games like Red steel, that were touted as having great controls are supposed to be system sellers. But instead the controls sucked, was filled with tons of kiddie swear words to seem "adult", and looked like the bastard child on a very bad N64 shooter. When a game looks like crap, it takes the absolute BEST gameplay and controls to make it worth playing.
Developers haven't figured out good controls for the Wii yet, but it would be nice to have had decent graphics at least.
The Wii is severly lacking in decent games. We all knew that the graphics were going to be crap, but we expected other things to be supplanting that, and we were wrong. (me included because i have a wii and am extremely dissappointed with it)
The Wii has nothing but kiddie games, kiddie graphics, innovative controls, not necessarily better though (and when you step back and look at it, you really wouldn't have a problem if the controls were like they were for previous titles of the same lame ports the Wii is getting). And seeing that this forum is filled with nothing but 16 year olds. I hoped for so much more from the wii and we haven't gotten it.
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I agree with much of what youre saying. Whilst graphics arent the be all and end all, the graphics on most of the Wii games have been very poor and the controls haven't been utilised that well. There's constant talk about all these great games around the corner, but to be honest all I ever see is 2nd rate ports. |
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05-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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all im sayin is that the wii would have been the ultimate console if it had hd.
It would be many times more better than the ps3, and all them ps3 fanboys wuld have nothing to complain about!
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05-14-2007, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
People with good quality television sets aren't worried about 480P. Any progressive signal looks great with a good TV. Still, I think Nintendo are hiding 576P ... in theory Wii should be capable of this. Chances are we might get it in a firmware update for when the "DVD Wii" is released.
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576P is considered high-definition and all PAL DVDs come stock with 576P (unless limited by player equipment).
You do the math.
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05-14-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
576P is considered high-definition and all PAL DVDs come stock with 576P (unless limited by player equipment).
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All DVD formats are interlaced (both 480I and 576I). It's your equipment, the DVD player, that is doing all the conversion (reverse pulldown with line doubling).
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.40 |
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05-14-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mk_south_london
all im sayin is that the wii would have been the ultimate console if it had hd.
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If Wii had been the ultimate console, they were more likely to be crushed by MS and SONY. |
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05-14-2007, 10:21 PM
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HD would own for the wii, but the games arent that high of detail, so thered be no reason for HD...
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05-15-2007, 01:53 PM
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Hmm. Seems I was incorrect. Maybe this DVD player isn't so cheap after all...
Infact, I must have a really powerful DVD player. O.o; Wow, it was so cheap. I totally scammed the place. xD
I see, so does this mean Blu-Ray is progressive scan by default or...?
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05-15-2007, 02:20 PM
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There is almost no chance that Wii will ever do HD.
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05-16-2007, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
Hmm. Seems I was incorrect. Maybe this DVD player isn't so cheap after all...
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Progressive DVD players are dirt cheap now, and are getting cheaper still.
In the US, you can get progressive DVD player for $50.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1167445401646
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I see, so does this mean Blu-Ray is progressive scan by default or...?
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Nope, Blu-Ray supports both progressive and interlace. However, movies are normally encoded at the native frame rate 24p (24 frames progressive) and other HDTV or video 50/60i (50/60 frames interlaced). |
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05-16-2007, 02:43 AM
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No, it would take entirely new internals for the Wii to produce HD. The Wii is built to put out 480p max. HD is 720p or greater. The component cables will transmit 720p, but your resolution is only as great as your source.
BTW if you bought a Wii hoping for great graphics...well...you're a dumbass.
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05-16-2007, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jorge
No, it would take entirely new internals for the Wii to produce HD. The Wii is built to put out 480p max. HD is 720p or greater. The component cables will transmit 720p, but your resolution is only as great as your source.
BTW if you bought a Wii hoping for great graphics...well...you're a dumbass.
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The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess has great graphics. I believe it's better than Fable or the latest instalment of Final Fantasy. Heck, the intro of Super Smash Bros. Melee has amazing graphics..
Mate, please don't judge graphics purely on the source of power of the system. It's true more detailed graphic engines and rendering systems require more powerful hardware, but there are alternative methods for 3D graphics to display the same picture with less system requirements. It's called 'good programming'.
And mate, if you buy a gaming console hoping clock rates determine graphics, you're a dumb ass.
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05-16-2007, 06:33 AM
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No, what I'm getting at is the fact that the Wii is all about interactive gameplay. I never said it had bad graphics.
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05-16-2007, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
If you want it, do it. Graphics cards are easily replacable, you just need to play around until you figure out what the Wii graphic outputs to and replace that with your PC video card. xD Then hope the firmware can handle it.
Regardless, as I said, if you get it working and it delivers a HD signal you may not like what you see at all.
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edit: ooooops Spiritshotgun already said something like this... sorry dude...:
Umm has any1 here even opened a game console before?
I have.. ive opened an xbox, ps1, ps2, xbox 360, gamecube and ALL of them have an onboard graphics card/chip which is part of the motherboard so i dont see how it is 'easy' to just replace the graphics card.
They are not designed like PC's. they are not designed to be upgradable...
So i dont know why your giving people ideas to open their Wii and just grab a PC graphics card and wack it in..
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05-16-2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bubs
edit: ooooops Spiritshotgun already said something like this... sorry dude...:
Umm has any1 here even opened a game console before?
I have.. ive opened an xbox, ps1, ps2, xbox 360, gamecube and ALL of them have an onboard graphics card/chip which is part of the motherboard so i dont see how it is 'easy' to just replace the graphics card.
They are not designed like PC's. they are not designed to be upgradable...
So i dont know why your giving people ideas to open their Wii and just grab a PC graphics card and wack it in..
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Graphics cards are easily replacable, you just need to play around until you figure out what the Wii graphic outputs to and replace that with your PC video card. xD Then hope the firmware can handle it.
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Totally, lol. I was being sarcastic. I hope people don't get ideas... =\ Lol..
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05-16-2007, 03:56 PM
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i dont have a hd telly so i am happy with the wii at this point
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05-16-2007, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
Chances are, no. If you want a better signal just buy component cables. Chances are people will hack the Wii and install a new graphics card in it, if you do this you're voiding your waranty... and you may not at all like what you see - some graphics just aren't designed for HD.
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You WILL NEVER be able to install a new graphics card in the wii like you can with a PC thinking that is just so rediculously stupid... im surprised nobody else has mentioned it...
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
If you want it, do it. Graphics cards are easily replacable, you just need to play around until you figure out what the Wii graphic outputs to and replace that with your PC video card. xD Then hope the firmware can handle it.
Regardless, as I said, if you get it working and it delivers a HD signal you may not like what you see at all.
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even more total bollocks pardon my french... but PC graphics cards are easily replaceable... console ones ARENT! infact in the history of consoles thus far... nobody has successfully upgraded the graphics card...
as to the "hope the firmware can handle it" thats even more dumb... sorry but you really shouldn't say rediculous rubbish like this... I'm just shocked that some people aren't bringing you up on this...
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Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
People with good quality television sets aren't worried about 480P. Any progressive signal looks great with a good TV. Still, I think Nintendo are hiding 576P ... in theory Wii should be capable of this. Chances are we might get it in a firmware update for when the "DVD Wii" is released.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii
http://nintendo.com/
http://wii.com/
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I just cant belittle your post enough... if I could give your post a rating out of 10 it would be a -15
my god... posting links to random wii websites citing them as "sources" does not make your clap trap relevant...
I for one will be sendthing your drivvel to my friends for a good laugh...
and for the OP... no the Wii wont have higher graphics unless they release a whole new wii... the graphics (or at least the developers ability to make full use of the Wii's potential) will improve over time just like with all consoles...
but you will never get HD graphics like the 360 or PS3...
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05-16-2007, 05:16 PM
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LOL!
Totally, lol. I was being sarcastic. I hope people don't get ideas... =\ Lol..
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Sarcasm from Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmos), 'mockery, sarcasm' is sneering, jesting, or mocking at a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound[1] — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's fantastic" to mean "that's awful". It is used mostly in a humorous manner, and is expressed through vocal intonations such as over-emphasizing the actual statement or particular words. Use of sarcasm is sometimes viewed as an expression of concealed anger[2] or annoyance.
that is how you give information and quote sources...
but obviously you know that...
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05-16-2007, 09:34 PM
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i think this was brought up in another "HD wii" thread... but i remember gran turismo 4 on Ps2 and there was an option for 1080i in the options menu... not sure how good it looked but the option was there.... so couldnt devs tweak the software a lil bit to maybe get 720p? i know this is WISHFUL thinking but if polydigital could do it with ps2 and the wii is like what 1.5x better than ps2 hardware speaking they could perhaps do it on wii but the speed of the game might suffer due to more stress on the software to scale to HD.
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