Start up disc ... real purpose?

gzusnw · 10-19-2006, 02:31 AM

I found in the web that the start up disc is for setting up controllers, internet and to register to the VC... is this true (NOTE: this info comes from a reply from someone unknown)

Source: N-Central (read the reply)

Demon Slayer · 10-19-2006, 02:49 AM

Intresting and it makes sence..

xxwiiwiifanxx · 10-19-2006, 02:54 AM

ya makes alot of since, i wouldnt doubt this-in my head i think its probably true-but who knoes...

Jenova · 10-19-2006, 03:09 AM

That's probably true, I have actually no doubts in that theory. The name even sounds like that is what it could be.

Sovieto · 10-19-2006, 04:31 AM

It says: Opera Software, yet youll have to pay for it? Perhaps its free now since to many people said: (well atleast i did) Why on earth would you pay money for a browser you can get on free on your computer and you obviously have a computer already if your connecting to the internet.

xxwiiwiifanxx · 10-19-2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovieto

It says: Opera Software, yet youll have to pay for it? Perhaps its free now since to many people said: (well atleast i did) Why on earth would you pay money for a browser you can get on free on your computer and you obviously have a computer already if your connecting to the internet.

this is whats happening, the browser will be freefrom now until june 07', when it hits june 07' u will have to pay a 1 time fee-dats it

Sovieto · 10-19-2006, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by xxwiiwiifanxx

this is whats happening, the browser will be freefrom now until june 07', when it hits june 07' u will have to pay a 1 time fee-dats it

and u hurd dis where?
as you would say, lol

Seriously though, where did you hear this..I know about the June thing, but they never gave details.

I_Dont_Know859 · 10-19-2006, 04:54 AM

i believe ion mention this in his new posts, i'll find it real quick

I_Dont_Know859 · 10-19-2006, 04:55 AM

http://www.wiichat.com/latest-ninten...r-details.html

Sovieto · 10-19-2006, 05:27 AM

Yah, it's old, but no one really understands it. They don't know if you get it free for download until July or just a demo until July. They don't clarify it.
But still I ain't paying for a browser, no one should, it's just plain lazy and stupid if they have to spend like $10 so they don't have to go on the computer where they have all their cool instant messaging services too.

Kherrek508 · 10-19-2006, 05:49 AM

But hey, having a fully featured browser built into your TV console is worth like, 30 bucks at the very least. So I will appreciate that they do stuff like this for us.

jakke · 10-19-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovieto

Yah, it's old, but no one really understands it. They don't know if you get it free for download until July or just a demo until July. They don't clarify it.

You get browser for free, if you buy Wii before July07, after that you dont get it free.

Jenova · 10-19-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xxwiiwiifanxx

this is whats happening, the browser will be freefrom now until june 07', when it hits june 07' u will have to pay a 1 time fee-dats it

No, it is free for DOWNLOAD untill June 07. Then, you have it free forever. But, if you don't download it untill after June 07, you will have to pay for it.

COLDshiver · 10-19-2006, 08:41 PM

Nice, that seems correct.

teqguy · 10-19-2006, 09:24 PM

First off, to clarify, the startup disk contains an updated firmware for the Wii, which may or may not include Opera(the only way to be certain is to pop it into your computer when you get it and analyze the disk).

New firmware, however, has already been confirmed, as they didn't finalize it until post production of the hardware.

As far as the browser is concerned, Nintendo of Japan stated that they would include it free with the console up until June or July of next year, in which time, they will charge a fee of $10 for it.

The browser itself works on a limited trial basis, after which point the browser will alert you that it has gone to Virtual Console to be purchased(this should be subsequent to an update to the browser, inticing people to want to buy it).

Now, why would someone want a browser on their Wii?

Well, for one, the intuitive nature of the Wiimote will be perfect for elderly people, as they don't have to worry about the complications of a computer. Instant on capability could work wonders for people who just want to check something quickly before they have to run out the door to their busy lives.

Second, even those who have a computer to use will appreciate the fact that the Wii never needs any TLC to be running in tip-top shape, never gets a virus, doesn't limit you by any media or format restrictions like browsing on a cellphone or PDA does, and most importantly, can be had from the comfort of any room with a TV.

With Google's consumption of Writely, you can even do word processing and spreadsheets online from the Wii, eliminating the need for boring term papers to restrict you to an uncomfortable desk.

$10 doesn't seem like a lot when you consider the value that can be had from having a browser on your TV. Sure, five to ten years ago, when WebTV came out, I mocked it at being horribly conducive to failure, due to the many restrictions it placed on web browsing. It seems like Nintendo got it right this time.

COLDshiver · 10-19-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by teqguy

First off, to clarify, the startup disk contains an updated firmware for the Wii, which may or may not include Opera(the only way to be certain is to pop it into your computer when you get it and analyze the disk).

New firmware, however, has already been confirmed, as they didn't finalize it until post production of the hardware.

As far as the browser is concerned, Nintendo of Japan stated that they would include it free with the console up until June or July of next year, in which time, they will charge a fee of $10 for it.

The browser itself works on a limited trial basis, after which point the browser will alert you that it has gone to Virtual Console to be purchased(this should be subsequent to an update to the browser, inticing people to want to buy it).

Now, why would someone want a browser on their Wii?

Well, for one, the intuitive nature of the Wiimote will be perfect for elderly people, as they don't have to worry about the complications of a computer. Instant on capability could work wonders for people who just want to check something quickly before they have to run out the door to their busy lives.

Second, even those who have a computer to use will appreciate the fact that the Wii never needs any TLC to be running in tip-top shape, never gets a virus, doesn't limit you by any media or format restrictions like browsing on a cellphone or PDA does, and most importantly, can be had from the comfort of any room with a TV.

With Google's consumption of Writely, you can even do word processing and spreadsheets online from the Wii, eliminating the need for boring term papers to restrict you to an uncomfortable desk.

$10 doesn't seem like a lot when you consider the value that can be had from having a browser on your TV. Sure, five to ten years ago, when WebTV came out, I mocked it at being horribly conducive to failure, due to the many restrictions it placed on web browsing. It seems like Nintendo got it right this time.

If this browser becomes widely popular on the Wii, coders will definitely be making viruses just for the Wii

Since the Wii is connected to the internet 24/7, it leaves people very vulernable and since it's wireless, you can't just pull an ethernet cable from it to disconnect it from the internet. You have to pull it's power plug. And it would be a huge problem because everytime you turn it on, the virus will then be working and bad things could come of this. Hopefully, security will be tight for Wiiconnect24. in a recent post of yours, teqguy, you said that the network is a 'mesh' and that all the clients are connected together instead of a single server. This would be a huge problem imo because it would cause the virus to spread much faster into Wiis that are connected to the internet 24/7

teqguy · 10-19-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by COLDshiver

If this browser becomes widely popular on the Wii, coders will definitely be making viruses just for the Wii

Since the Wii is connected to the internet 24/7, it leaves people very vulernable and since it's wireless, you can't just pull an ethernet cable from it to disconnect it from the internet. You have to pull it's power plug. And it would be a huge problem because everytime you turn it on, the virus will then be working and bad things could come of this. Hopefully, security will be tight for Wiiconnect24. in a recent post of yours, teqguy, you said that the network is a 'mesh' and that all the clients are connected together instead of a single server. This would be a huge problem imo because it would cause the virus to spread much faster into Wiis that are connected to the internet 24/7

And I suspect coders are going to pay the $1000 required for the SDK as well?

There's a thing about proprietary platforms that Apple has banked on for a very long time: Nobody goes after minorities when it comes to spreading viruses.

For one, virus writers want to reach large targets, and two, the amount of time and money it would take to research any exploitable features of the Wii would be worthless. In that amount of time, those coders could just as easily be looking for ways to play copied Wii games and sell the chip/bootloader online.

Furthermore, it's nearly impossible to exploit software that has few to no flaws, hence the reason Windows gets bogged down with so much crap.

Equis · 10-19-2006, 10:20 PM

sounds good!

and the opera is free till june.

so they better come up with something reall good to keep people wantin to have it

teqguy · 10-19-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Equis

so they better come up with something reall good to keep people wantin to have it

A browser on your TV that supports full format media, Javascript, and Flash, in addition to never needing to be booted up or shut down doesn't sound good enough to you?