Another TV & Cable Question

Andrakis_Scarr · 11-16-2006, 03:13 AM

After reading all this info about image quality and component cables and such, I had a look at the back of my tv to see what it takes. What I found is that it has inputs for normal AV, S-Video and Component cables.

My question is, does it matter what I use. Its a normal non-flashy TV (Link to TV specs: Welcome to Celestial)

Will I get better image quality if I use the component cable input or should I just use normal AV / S-Video input?

paintba||er · 11-16-2006, 03:28 AM

You might get slightly better quality picture but I don't think it would be worth $30 when you probably wouldn't even notice the difference. I would only get the component cables if you have a HD/ED TV.

Andrakis_Scarr · 11-16-2006, 03:43 AM

Cool. Thanks for the info. I'll prob just stick to the included AV cables then.

paintba||er · 11-16-2006, 04:00 AM

No problem.

infernocs · 11-16-2006, 07:14 AM

I have to disagree with you on this one, even on a normal tube you will see a difference between the component,composite and s-video.
Composite beeing total crap I'd suggest getting a better cable and If your set does have component inputs get the cable!
I'm not sure if you would see a difference between S-video and component but using composite is definetly the worst of them all.

Andrakis_Scarr · 11-16-2006, 09:04 AM

Anyone suggest where I could go to find out more about this?

Or any other opinions? I must admit, I am lost on this subject.

Joe_Swanson · 11-16-2006, 09:59 AM

try wikipedia it can tell you just about anything

Samster · 11-16-2006, 10:09 AM

OK - will try to keep this simple:

Best Quality
Component - the video signal is split into three signals, two color and one black and white, giving you the best picture. Use component video to take advantage of the superior picture found in such signal sources such as HDTV and progressive DVD.

Component connection is three plugs - red blue and green.

Better Quality
S-Video - The video signal is split into two signals, giving you an even better quality picture. For example, text displayed on-screen using this connection is noticeably sharper than composite or coaxial (RF).

S-Video connection looks like this:

Good Quality
Composite ("yellow plug") - The video signal is carried through a single "pin". This connection type is the one that is most commonly found on video devices

Basic
Coaxial (RF) - The video and audio signals are both carried in one cable. Used for antenna and cable signals.
(The other three connection types only handle video, requiring separate connections for sound.)

In short - if your screen has component inputs, regardless of whether it's an HDTV or not - buy the component Wii cable and use it. YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE.

If you don't have component inputs on your screen but do have an S-Video input, buy the S-Video Wii cable and use it.

If you can afford to buy the correct cables, always connect your screen to your input device using it's best inputs.

Andrakis_Scarr · 11-16-2006, 10:40 AM

Thanks. That was a great help

m7ticalm · 11-16-2006, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samster

OK - will try to keep this simple:

Best Quality
Component - the video signal is split into three signals, two color and one black and white, giving you the best picture. Use component video to take advantage of the superior picture found in such signal sources such as HDTV and progressive DVD.

Component connection is three plugs - red blue and green.

Better Quality
S-Video - The video signal is split into two signals, giving you an even better quality picture. For example, text displayed on-screen using this connection is noticeably sharper than composite or coaxial (RF).

S-Video connection looks like this:

Good Quality
Composite ("yellow plug") - The video signal is carried through a single "pin". This connection type is the one that is most commonly found on video devices

Basic
Coaxial (RF) - The video and audio signals are both carried in one cable. Used for antenna and cable signals.
(The other three connection types only handle video, requiring separate connections for sound.)

In short - if your screen has component inputs, regardless of whether it's an HDTV or not - buy the component Wii cable and use it. YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE.

If you don't have component inputs on your screen but do have an S-Video input, buy the S-Video Wii cable and use it.

If you can afford to buy the correct cables, always connect your screen to your input device using it's best inputs.

Nicely put!

yosh64 · 11-16-2006, 03:37 PM

hey

Hmm, it doesn't say in your television specs what resolutions it supports? maybe it supports 480p? if so, you should get a much better picture/display.

Anyhows, I might do some googling and try and find out.

cyas

epikon · 11-16-2006, 03:50 PM

good post has helped me about quite alot. thanks,

yosh64 · 11-16-2006, 04:10 PM

hey

Hmm, well I done some googling, and downloaded the manual. The only thing I found was in the manual... "Video system: PAL4.43, NTSC3.58, NTSC4.43 (50/60Hz)".

Well I'm guessing it don't support 480p, but I don't really know :\.

Edit, I just came across a nice post by Inspire, which I think answers your question

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspire

You get an extra boost just using these cables - even if you don't use progressive scan. Video signals are composed of three individual signals - Red, Green, and Blue. Your standard Composite cables compress all three of these signals and trasmit them over a single cable. This is a ludicrous idea - that your sound is actually given more bandwith than your video signal (Sound - red and White / Video - Yellow).

S-Video cables work better, but I won't go into an explanation here.

Component video cables work best (as far as analog signals are concerned) and allow for the video signal to be sent as its separate individual components - Red, Green, and Blue. This helps big time with distortion and color bleeding and sharpness.

Progressive scan ices the cake off real nice by displaying a full image in each frame, rather than playing magic tricks and letting your brain compile the interlaced image.

So, what I'm getting at is that 480i (interlaced) and 480p (progressive) most put out the same amount of pixels per second, progressive scan just does it in a better way.

cyas

Adisah · 11-18-2006, 04:53 AM

That's helps a ton. I'm probably sticking with the S-Video unless my dad gets a HDTV.

Scooter80 · 12-08-2006, 11:16 PM

Thanks, this helped me out alot. I still have a CRT tv with component input (its kinda new ish) I think I will pick up a set of component cables and see if it looks nicer. I am hopefull it will.

ilovekakairu · 12-09-2006, 04:08 AM

Question. I just got my Wii component cable today, hooked it up, worked great. Something I notice though...although all of the images look much clearer, sharper, and full of color, I see small little lines. What I mean is, for example, as I move around in Zelda, on Link and the environment these little tiny lines move, almost as if the image is still being "interlaced", and not showing the whole image every frame. It's weird. My TV supports up to 780p, so there shouldn't be a problem. Do TV settings need to be switched into Pogressive Scan somehow? 'Cause I thought they did that on their own. Just wondering...

epikon · 12-09-2006, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samster

OK - will try to keep this simple:

Best Quality
Component - the video signal is split into three signals, two color and one black and white, giving you the best picture. Use component video to take advantage of the superior picture found in such signal sources such as HDTV and progressive DVD.

Component connection is three plugs - red blue and green.

Better Quality
S-Video - The video signal is split into two signals, giving you an even better quality picture. For example, text displayed on-screen using this connection is noticeably sharper than composite or coaxial (RF).

S-Video connection looks like this:

Good Quality
Composite ("yellow plug") - The video signal is carried through a single "pin". This connection type is the one that is most commonly found on video devices

Basic
Coaxial (RF) - The video and audio signals are both carried in one cable. Used for antenna and cable signals.
(The other three connection types only handle video, requiring separate connections for sound.)

In short - if your screen has component inputs, regardless of whether it's an HDTV or not - buy the component Wii cable and use it. YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE.

If you don't have component inputs on your screen but do have an S-Video input, buy the S-Video Wii cable and use it.

If you can afford to buy the correct cables, always connect your screen to your input device using it's best inputs.

i think thats in america, because the cables i recieved with my wii are the yellow, white and red one.

phatboix91 · 12-09-2006, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epikon

i think thats in america, because the cables i recieved with my wii are the yellow, white and red one.

what you're talking about are the composite cables that come with the wii, which everyone has. the yellow cable is all of the video signals, while audio is divided into two cables, red and white. samster's post does include composite cables in it.

nyk0n · 12-09-2006, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatboix91

what you're talking about are the composite cables that come with the wii, which everyone has. the yellow cable is all of the video signals, while audio is divided into two cables, red and white. samster's post does include composite cables in it.

yellow is Composite Video also known as RCA (type of connector) and Baseband Video
White is Left channel analog Audio
Red is Right channel analog Audio

Component uses RCA connectors to divide your Video into Three cables these are commonly labled Y (green), Pb (blue), Pr (red) PLUS two more cables like Composite for the audio White and Red see above

If your TV contains Component Video Jacks it is likely a Progressive Scan TV and is capably of much improved Image Quality

contrary to popular belief that S-Video is much better than Composite (Yellow) it has been proved that most people cannot see the difference in quality between the two.

It is also slightly possible you may not see the difference between the supplied composite cables and the component cables. ( my mother in Law cannot tell the difference between SDTV and HDTV but my wife and I can for example.

the differences may be subtle or major and can be compared to look something like this

I always recommend buying the cable making sure you can return them in case of issues.

take 'em home and try it out (don't forget to set your Wii to 480p)

if you are not able to justify the cost with the slight increase (or large increase) in image quality then return them (again dont for get to set your Wii back to 480i before disconnecting it)