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12-16-2006, 06:16 PM
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WiiChat Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Vhdblood
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Just because it says b/g doesn't mean it needs both, it just means it supports both. B wireless is on older version of wireless, while G is the newer standard. Also, I'm pretty sure that ad-hoc is only transmitted in 802.11b anyway, not in g, so that was really making me hope even more.
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12-16-2006, 06:24 PM
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Wii noob
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Wales, UK
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Yeah I'm aware of that, I just read somewhere on this forum that the Wii needs both, but having looked further into it, I know now it doesn't
btw, I edited my orginal post.
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12-16-2006, 06:31 PM
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WiiChat Member
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Vhdblood
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That's one of my main problems, I don't have another device to check it with. I will pretty soon, but I don't right now. Also, how do I make the device broadcast the SSID, because I can't find an option for this. I really don't think it's that though, because I went in and set the SSID manually, but it still won't pick up the signal.
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12-16-2006, 06:32 PM
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Wii noob
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Wales, UK
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btw, I'm assuming you have connection sharing active and your wireless deviced bridged to your internet connection. Also might be worth disabling windows firewall (only for this connection)
Even if your Wii can't access the net, it should find your network. Still reading up on ad-hoc connections and the Wii. The official Nintendo line is that they aren't supported at present. Doesn't mean they won't work though.
Last edited by Goots : 12-16-2006 at 06:36 PM.
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12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
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WiiChat Member
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Vhdblood
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Yeah, I figured as much. Anyway, I have sharing active, but if I go in and enable sharing on my normal connection so that it shares through the wireless device, it won't let me bridge them.
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12-16-2006, 06:54 PM
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Wii noob
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Wales, UK
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buy this right now
it's what I use for 3 PC's, DS, Wii and Laptop
works a treat with no messing about and ur ad-hoc PC doesn't need to be on for your Wii Connect24 to work
(2 mins left on that auction at time of posting)
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12-16-2006, 06:57 PM
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WiiChat Member
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Vhdblood
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Too bad I can't afford it.
Anyway, do you have any more ideas for me?
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12-16-2006, 07:16 PM
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WiiChat Member
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Vhdblood
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YAY! I did it! Sorta.... It's now detected, but it won't connect.
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12-16-2006, 07:32 PM
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Wii noob
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Wales, UK
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Well when I was first setting up the Wii with my Router, it would find the wireless network and connect to it (even using 128bit WEP encryption) but it kept failing the internet connection test thing.
I had to add the mac address of the Wii to my routers' mac filter table to allow the Wii shared internet access.
Don't know if that's your problem, but at least you seem to be making some progress
[edit]: do you mean it can see your wireless network but won't connect to it, or it has connected to your wireless network but won't connect to the internet ??
If it's the first one, I would try turning the WEP (and possibly firewall) off just to see if it's getting blocked.
Last edited by Goots : 12-16-2006 at 07:34 PM.
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12-16-2006, 07:34 PM
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WiiChat Member
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Vhdblood
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I was actually about to ask how I would access a MAC filter table. I also wanted to make note that on my actual DSL modem I am able to see the IP address I manually set for my Wii, I guess because I tried to access it.
Also, what do I need to set the MTU value for?
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12-16-2006, 07:36 PM
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Wii noob
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Wales, UK
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Hmm I'm not sure how you would access a mac filter table on an ad-hoc set up, mine is inbuilt into the routers' internal pages. Maybe Vagrant could help you here, I think he uses an ad-hoc connection.
Each ISP has a recommended MTU setting it's something to do with the maximum transferrable units in each data packet or something, I just left the Wii set to 0 for now, can always tinker with it later. Mine did the 2 big updates pretty quickly with it set to 0. I am on an 8mBit connection, but I'm not sure what speed nintendo feed the updates at.
FYI my PC mtu is set to 1458, though a lot of people recommend 1430. I'm thinking that the Wii's "0" might a kind of automatic mtu speed setting or something.
Last edited by Goots : 12-16-2006 at 07:41 PM.
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12-16-2006, 07:38 PM
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WiiChat Member
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I'm thinking my modem isn't letting it through. I'm doing a live chat with my DSL company so maybe they can tell me.
UPDATE: God, retarded support told me how to port forward on my modem when I asked how to allow MAC addresses. Anyway, I guess I'll keep trying it for awhile. Thanks anyway. Also, what should I be doing, bridging the connections or sharing my main connection through the wireless device?
Last edited by vhdblood : 12-16-2006 at 07:46 PM.
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12-16-2006, 07:55 PM
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Wii noob
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When I ran my daughters PC as a wireless device through my PC, I had to share my main connection using ICS. To be honest though I'm not entirely sure.
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12-17-2006, 10:58 PM
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WiiChat Member
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Ok, so it can still see the wireless device, I choose that device, and it tries to connect, then I get the error "Unable to find Access Point. Please confirm your SSID". I have ICS enabled and all my firewalls are down when I try this. My router has no MAC filter table, and I'm pretty sure I have all the right ports open because I believe the Wii just connects to the internet like normal, and that is allowed on my Modem. Anyway, I really need some more advice as to what to do next. As people give me advice, I'll repost a list of what I have tried, so we can narrow down the problem. I will do that the next time someone gives me advice, cause I don't have time to do that now.
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12-20-2006, 08:02 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
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im on the same mission!...any progress? i had my wii pick up the SSID once .. but not since, and its gone from saying "no access point" to "no internet connection" and my wireless adaptor lights are going crazy with no other wireless system anywhere
noob xD
keep up the good work!
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12-22-2006, 12:08 AM
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Wii Fan
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Location: Queensland,Australia
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JetHead
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To Phill
Do you have any Anti-Virus software on you ad-hoc computer (eg. Norton)? If you do the software may be blocking your Wii's i.p address!
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12-22-2006, 12:13 AM
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WiiChat Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Set your wireless to AP mode, not ad hoc.
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12-25-2006, 02:47 PM
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Hero of Time
Join Date: Jul 2006
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From what I have read the connection needs to be access point not peer to peer, has anyone gotten peer to peer to work with their Wii, if so can you post your settings, also maybe post the windows exe to set up the network then what settings you use for the Wii so people can connect easier.
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12-25-2006, 04:16 PM
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wiilly
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Wii Online Code: 4815-8156-1119-5344
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exon
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hi everyone - im back from holiday with a new zest to solve this problem - came back and spent the last hour trying to fix the ad-hoc problem in vain...
Jethead: I do have Norton on the ad-hoc internet connected computer - if it is interfering with the Wii how can I solve this? im on my 2nd computer in my room which doesnt seem to have problems with norton over the wireless network. in fact, none of my computers (incl a laptop) have any probs connecting to the host computer and internet...
i would buy a router but i have an odd broadband modem from BT (damn you BT) that can only connect via USB to a computer - and i dont think normal routers are compatible (if im wrong please correct me and i'll go buy one tommorow)...
but the wii can detect my SSID and the fact that it has WEP - the signal that the WII detects is 4 bars, its just that it cant connecyt - ive tried turning off WEP, and get the same error, so its not that.
im going round the girlfriends tonight who has a 'normal' wireless network/router - so that should show whether my wiis a bit odd, or the fact that ad-hoc networks are just not compatable witht he wii.
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12-25-2006, 06:00 PM
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Wii noob
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North Wales, UK
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To answer part of your question Phill, if you get an ADSL modem/router (about £40 brand new on ebay) it will be the end of your problems. There is a thread on here started by Wii17 that shows some compatible ones. Personally, I use a Netgear DG834G and it works for 2 PC's, a Laptop, 2 DS's and the Wii with no probs at all.
The router connects to your PC using an ethernet patch lead (included) and does away completely with the need for that dodgy BT modem. You just need to know your BT username and password. The router has internal "web pages" for configuration and stays connected all the time it's turned on - even when your PC is turned off.
I presume your PC has a network port (ethernet socket), it would have to be pretty damn ancient not to, but even if it doesn't these things are uber cheap. A few quid at most.
It seems that connecting the Wii to ad-hoc (or even AP) style networks appears to pose a bit of a problem for a lot of people. This router will not only solve your connection problem, but will mean you can use your Wii online without having your "wireless server host PC" turned on.
Make sure you get a "modem router" though, some of them are just "routers" and have no built in DSL modem. The DG834G does.
Last edited by Goots : 12-25-2006 at 06:03 PM.
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