Having not tried the PS3 yet, I'm not sure I'm entirely qualified to give an objective opinion of it, but I'll give it a shot: I don't think Sony have tried hard enough. Everything about it reminds me of the Sega Saturn (ironically beaten by the original Playstation)- it's overpriced, there's very few exclusive "killer apps", and there's not a lot of difference between it and the competition. Sony needs to sort out these problems, or the PS3 will suffer the same fate the Saturn did.

In case you haven't noticed, your Wiichat alias is NOT making you any less of a fanboy. There are lots of great non-kiddy games in the Wii's future, just like there are lots of great games in the PS3's future.

Exactly. There's Manhunt 2, Driver, Sadness, Umbrella Chronicles, The Godfather, Scarface, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, No More Heroes that are really quite high-profile, and what about the ones we haven't heard about yet?.
Then there's tonnes of titles that are more "teen" like (rather than kiddy). Seriously, until we get Dora the Explorer on the Wii, there's nothing to wory about!

Also, most people mistake "mature" for gratuitous violence and gore (also a little sexual innuendo). That really isn't mature. It's 18+. Fact of the matter is, is that people believe that Nintendo is kiddie because some of their most popular titles are kid-friendly. That doesn't mean however, that they are all about catering for the child, and not to the adult. They're about - and have always been about catering for everyone. It's the equivolent of saying that adults cannot enjoy Wallace and Gromit because Gromit doesn't take a chainsaw to Wallaces head, or that Shrek cannot be enjoyed by adults because you don't see the princess' knickers. - Some things are meant for everybody.

Also:Capcom does M rated games for the Wii

Sure there will be a few great non kiddy games, but the questions is... Will the controller ruin the gameplay? imo the answer is yes. Zelda was not that good. If it had a normal remote I would enjoy it alot more. The only games that benefit the remote are games like wii sports. The other games are interactive, but it gets old really quick. cod & redsteel were some of the worst games ive played on the wii. The controller ruined it completely.

Since everyone is throwing out an opinion I will do mine as well. Imo I think the wii is not an advancement in technology. I think they put the gamecube into a new case, and slapped on some 10 year old technology to the remote. I think the wii will have great success, but I think adults will grow tired of it and the kids will continue to love it. All the games are following in the same footsteps as the gamecube. Gamecube had a select few good games, with a bunch of crappy kids games. The wii is defintely here to stay. I think it will sell over 10 million by next november pretty easily. In the long run I dont think it will sell like the ps2 did. The ps2 did well because its took years to harness the power to its full potential. The games and the graphics got better as time went on. Devs will hit that with the wii in less than a year very easily.

I think the ps3 will have great success since technology is always advancing. The ps3 only has 1 good game out, but will soon change in less than a month. Im looking forward to motorstorm and lair. Theres a couple others, but those are ports from the 360. Europe has a strong demand for the ps3 so that will really help with sales. The ps3 is here to stay, and so is bluray. I suggest that if anyone has an hd dvd player you should sell it asap. If you look at the facts you will obviously see that it has no chance in hell.

lol those 'facts' are based on ps3's being used as blu ray players... sony is just shovin it up anyones ass, who in the hell wants to spend $1000/$600 for a blu ray player when you can get and HD-DVD player for $200/$500?

There's no comparison, I mean how could you compare swinging a sword with the wii remote like a real life event compared to pressing " X " constantly.

Now I know a lot of you are going to say previous consoles have always been like that, but Nintendo made a change whereas PS3 didn't. This is why it amuses me when a shop sign for the PS3 says " A whole new way to play "

why are you here?

We've already established that you know nothing about what "facts" are.

Next time you give an opinion, try not to refer to "facts" that you've not actually given. And by facts, I mean a statement that is undeniably true, and that doesn't rely on any assumptions (say for example, that the PS3 sells because of it's Blu-ray: the assumption. Not everybody has a phone to play mp3 files on. Likewise, not everybody who bought a PS2, brought it for the DVD player).

sigh....is it just me or are these threads getting a tad repetitive and very boring!

please whos gives a shit what you think of the console

buy what YOU like and dont slag off other ones because it doesnt have better graphics or gameplay

thank you

I have to agree with you, I love the PS3, I will be getting one, but I do think they tried a bit too hard with it, therefore it is too expensive. However, I will still be buying it.

Trying to convince fanboys that your system is better is like trying to convince a politician that porking that hooker in Vegas is going to hurt his career: you can keep the pig out of office, but you can't make the pig keep his pig in the barn.

I believe many companies are already creating games for the Wii. Rockstar only ever mingled with Nintendo once when they felt like making a portable game and the only portable console at the time was the GBA, but they went straight back to Sony with the launch of the PSP. Since then, they have NEVER made a Rockstar game on the GCN, however Manhunt 2 has been confirmed for the Wii. Ubisoft is focussing more on individual games for the Wii now instead of porting games such as Splinter Cell on the GCN with worse graphics and gameplay of that on the PS2 and Xbox. Many companies can see success in Wii, it's written in red and they are not missing out on this opportunity. There is a lot of money to be made as the Wii has nearly reached 5 million sales in under 3 months whereas it took the Xbox 360 to sell 10 million in over a year.

I think they need to reinvent their controller. It was terrific for the PS1, then still pretty good for the PS2, now the PS3 basically has the same design, it seems they are just too lazy. maybe change the grips or whatever your hands go around maybe. The only noticable changes they did make were the sixaxis and the L2 and R2 buttons push like triggers. :9