PS3 sucks, now tell me why not to think so.

PtonJalken · 03-19-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wezeles

really which is better or worse is all opinion, you can say what each has and what each doesnt... but when it comes down to it in the end we will know which was "better" just meaning sold the most or made the most money its to early to tell who will win... xbox has the time and numbers so far.. they can drop there price quicker then the rest.. and still make out because of game sales to the consoles on the market already, wii is seling great and could still come down in price because they arnt even loosing money on the system yet.. they are making money. ps3 is slow but so are the games... games are what makes a system.. without good games it doesnt matter what you have so if ps3 does get the titles they are known to get there sales will pick right up... you can see just based on the members here alot buy the console based on the games it has.. each has there own nitch for games, but they get the games based on how many consoles they sell and then the 3rd party game developers put it out on the platform that will make them the most money...

wii could sell millions of systems wont matter without game sales the money they make on console isnt enough to stay in buisness.. every one needs games...

360 has the lead being out the longest giving it the edge and more appeal to 3rd party's because the amount of games that are possibal to sell, and is the most appealing for online gameplay profit

ps3 has the tech but not the numbers "yet" so it appeals to alot of developers being they arnt limited with what they come out with.. they make money stricktly on games.. the most money comes from the best games.. alot of times thats something new and unique that sells great.. with the ps3 they have the power to do alot with a game..

its all up in the air right now anyone claiming any as the winner or loser is just being ignorant... there is nothing but opinion, no fact except sales figures which mean nothing this early in the launch

Good post.

My few sense:

Wii: Has dominion over several other ages/groups of people (Youth/Older people and new to the scene.. GIRLS!) that the other systems dont even touch. They have control over the 'party' console title (and anyone who has played with a bunch of friends will agree with that) They have also attracted many 3rd party developers to Nintendo that were never even considering for Nintendo (Examples: TakeTwo, Valve, Square Enix(more), etc). The Wii being able to cut its price down by a large percentage compared to the other systems will be good in future years also. They could cut it down significantly but still make profit per console, which niether the Xbox360 or the Ps3 can do. I can see the Wii being 99-150$ if ever need be. That would attract the 'low class' or 'casual' gamer even more.

Xbox360: Has the most control over the largest chunk of gamers right now due to their early release. This will keep them solid for the rest of the console war due to their huge library, their millions of consoles sold, and their Gold Membership Online Subscribers. Even if they loose people to the Wii/Ps3 they are by no means needing to worry for this Generation of consoles.

Ps3: Even though i recently have begun to have a fueled rage to sony. (not sure if its because of some of the Rep's statements or certain Sony fans.) Anyways the Playstation has a fairly large fanbase that still try to remain loyal even if they have went for a Xbox360 due to early release or cant quite afford it. So this fanbase can easily help fuel their needs. Id say out of all 3 systems right now Playstation has the largest ammount of exclusive developers/titles. And of course they have the dominion currently over MMORPG(for consoles) an example being Final Fantasy's. Even though many of their exclusives have wondered off to the Wii and some to the Xbox360 they still have lots their own. If the price CAN drop (im not too sure if itll do good or harm) they could get some more customers, but itll cost them even more of a loss per system (and they are already loosing enough). PS Home should attract some people, but we will have to see until it comes out. I dont think another Virtual Reality is what they need though.

Its hard to tell who will win in the end, we all have our bets and our facts and bluh bluh. Certain consoles are winning now, some are loosing. We all know things can totally flip backwards in any situation given due time.

Yea.
Hope this clears a little of what few people think im some fanboy, i just dont like people ranting on about a dam console. lol.

My god the Wii owns... · 03-19-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmonaut

Yea, I have no doubt you understand what a contraction is and how to use it...dude, consider the sources man..you're like oozing with info that no one on this site is going to logically take in and process..they don't care, they're stuck on their own views and have fabricated opinions based on their possessions etc etc..like I said man, lost cause.

Now that's a paragraph worth reading. If you haven't read the original post, read what I just quoted.

Edit: And the guy above me. Read that.

Ferg · 03-19-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NY_KRaKRocKS

Insultin my system don't go well wit me. Here you are a$$ Hol3.

Blu-ray games
blu-ray technology
high definition graphics
storage of music
storage of video
storage of pictures
Motion Sensor controller (also with tilt)
bluetooth compatible
list of fun, real hits
crazy online to come out in fall (PLAYSTATION HOME)
PSP playback
PlayStation Store(demos, games, trailers of games and movies)
So if you still like playin a lunchbox worth $50 dollaz tops with no great games or features, then your

crazy.

ok the storage of music and pictures is stupid. and Blu-ray games and blu-ray technology dont do jack S$@t for you if the console dznt have ony good games to play. Wii has motion sensor controller. What are you going to do with Blutooth on the PS3? Playstation hasnt come out yet (but it dose look cool ill give you that). PSP playback looks retarted. and the demos arnt good so k

PtonJalken · 03-19-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg

ok the storage of music and pictures is stupid. and Blu-ray games and blu-ray technology dont do jack S$@t for you if the console dznt have ony good games to play. Wii has motion sensor controller. What are you going to do with Blutooth on the PS3? Playstation hasnt come out yet (but it dose look cool ill give you that). PSP playback looks retarted. and the demos arnt good so k

(in your reply to his Demo statement)
And there was a conferance with Nintendo saying they may make a Demo Channel in the future anyways. So scratch that out as special. :P

im not sure if the Xbox360 has a demo shop?

WiiZero · 03-19-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NY_KRaKRocKS

Marvel Ulitimate Alliance(sucks for wii) But sucks more for the PS3 have you even played the Wii version
For more, go to ign.com in the ps3 reviews section Why would I spend 5 minutes when I could be doing my homework

I think I might actually use my homework as an excuse to stop playing PS3

WiiZero · 03-19-2007, 01:08 AM

Okay I'm going to break this down for you I'm eliminating the ones that are the same thing or are fake

1 point Blu-Ray > Regular
7 points Motion sensing < Better motion sensing
6 points Crazy online = crazy online
5 points Playstation home > Mii Plaza
1 point PSP playback < DS compatible
4 points PlayStation Store < Shop Channel

Wii = 15 points
PS3= 9 points

wezeles · 03-19-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NY_KRaKRocKS

Marvel Ulitimate Alliance(sucks for wii) But sucks more for the PS3 have you even played the Wii version
For more, go to ign.com in the ps3 reviews section Why would I spend 5 minutes when I could be doing my homework

hes right though.. alot or atleast most game critics have rated the same games higher for wii that are out on all 3 consoles.. they might just be moderate to crap games, but just the new gameplay seems to give wii and extra star or 2 in rattings because the gameplay keeps you from passing out from boredom.. not that nintendo should slack off on games.. they might take a good chunck of the market this time around with the new gameplay, but the way to keep it is to get the games...

in the end i just want all of them to get better it does nothing but help us... we dont need all the extra bells and whistles.. and if we want them make them add ons not built in... just give us the best cheepest game system and the best games possibal so we get a good bang for our buck... little competition never hurts the customer...

RedProdigy · 03-19-2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiftfallout

A visual form might help....

Boggles the mind, but the low supply actually means more demand and low price. High quantity of the PS3 is more pricey as there is less demand for it.

As for nintendo and sony having a monopoly.. well mono means ONE, so its not much of a monopoly is it. But your also forgetting Microsoft, when theres three, there should be some healthy competition. Nintendo, in order to be successful against the titan that is Xbox has to have a low price system, because right now xbox is selling their system for much cheaper than its actual worth is and it has a ton of games.

So all 3 gaming companies make the Wii? Nintendo and Microsoft make the PS3 as well? Nintendo has a monopoly for the Wii, Sony for PS3, Microsoft for 360. Thus the supply and demand graph for each individual console is very different than one from competitive. With a monopoly, demand can rise and fall despite the price (unless the price itself changes but that occurs infrequently). However, people will still tend to go for the cheaper product.

If you generalize consoles, then the gaming market is competitively monopolistic. The graph will thus still be more different than a competitive market.

Shiftfallout · 03-19-2007, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RedProdigy

So all 3 gaming companies make the Wii? Nintendo and Microsoft make the PS3 as well? Nintendo has a monopoly for the Wii, Sony for PS3, Microsoft for 360. Thus the supply and demand graph for each individual console is very different than one from competitive. With a monopoly, demand can rise and fall despite the price (unless the price itself changes but that occurs infrequently). However, people will still tend to go for the cheaper product.
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MY GOD... you're an idiot.

Im not calling you a name, im stating that you really need help.

Cosmonaut, you are right. There is no hope for them at all.

Cosmonaut · 03-19-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiftfallout

Cosmonaut, you are right. There is no hope for them at all.

Twas a valiant effort though dude

People just need to understand that dissimilar opinions and preferences are good, they keep things interesting and us from being dull and insipid.

RedProdigy · 03-19-2007, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiftfallout

MY GOD... you're an idiot.

Im not calling you a name, im stating that you really need help.

Cosmonaut, you are right. There is no hope for them at all.

FFS, stop acting like you know everything and anyone who disagrees with you is a noob. Were you not able to say anything meaningful? I know what you're saying and such but I'm just talking economics. Sheesh. You think I'm just throwing words around?! The PS3 is more expensive because Sony made it so, not because of market forces.

..wait. How am I an idiot for correctly pointing out that Nintendo has a monopoly on the Wii? Did I not clarify my original use of monopoly (and I should have).

A RAND0M TAC0 · 03-19-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiftfallout

MY GOD... you're an idiot.

Im not calling you a name, im stating that you really need help.

hahahahaha

chwisch87 · 03-19-2007, 08:02 AM

Sony, by releasing a cheaper blu-ray player is perhaps a sign that they do not have much faith in their PS3 console anymore (to push Blu-ray into the mainstream market).

Is in a rock and a hard place right now. As much as they would love to drop the price on their PS3 console, they can't. It would force Sony to ask for more money in licensing fee's which would have the likely effect of driving up the price of games to 70 or even 80 dollars. Otherwise Sony would lose more money than they would make from having the console out in the open market more.

This is why Sony is releasing the cheaper blu-ray player, because they cannot count on the PS3 bring blu-ray into the open market.

Sony has got some serious thinking to do about how to solve this PS3 issue. Personally when it comes right down to it, i'm not sure the PS3 really matters to sony in the long run; all they need to do is win the blu-ray battle and they would probably be fine. The PS3 as a console is probably dead however; Blu-ray is not. If Blu-ray fails however, the PS3 is most certainly a dead device.

What Sony could do to fix the problem ...

Take the blu-ray player off the PS3 and release the console with DVD games. Price it under the or at the 360. The Cell Broadband would probably be enough to make the console a success.

MasterChief · 03-19-2007, 08:30 AM

This thread is annoying, I hope the rest of the forum is not like this.

Robertking1123 · 03-19-2007, 09:19 AM

I dont really care what anyone has to say about my opinions. I feel the way i feel and I like what I like. At the current time I like the Ps2 and the Wii. No matter what anyone else say I will not worry about the ps3 till the price drops. I am a grown man that can think for myself. So with that being said, Fanboys are stupid. Games are fun. If the system doesn't have any worth playing the the system is a waste. I like all games but the ps3 at this point in time is still crap. Ill get one when its not so full of shit.