Let's cover the previous storage capacity. The N64, DC, PS2, and Xbox. Around 90% of all games for each system did not use even 75% of the capacity for those consoles. I doubt few companies will manage to fill the entire Blue Ray capacity. Ogre Battle 64, Xeno Saga are just a handful of games that actually used the full capacity back then.

If you go over the capacity like Resident Evil 4, and FF7 that's also not meeting the target. Very few, and I mean very few games will come close to the exact capacity.

I don't think it's too early to claim the inclusion of BR a mistake at all. Whether or not the system suceeds in the long run, it has had a very rough start. Sony and the PS3 have a poor public image at the moment, and it won't be easy to get back on their feet. Will they win in the end? Can't say. Would they have had a much clearer shot to victory with a $300 console six months earlier? Hell yes. What caused the delay and the price? Blu-Ray.

sony's first party dev's are in teams.each team has a game to make.its not like the whole sony first party lineup is 1 big room of guys making the same games.ALOT of there first party games now were 3rdparty companies which sony bought.i.e. the dev comapny of lil big planet (cant remember the name)and sony's 1st party is HUGE.only EA sports is bigger.

know one is saying that they have to fill up all 50gb but even 30gb is more then 1 dvd9.the point is more discs is more money.but i feel im typing for no reason. the majority of the people on here dont listen and in fact have nextgen wars on there signature,so that shows how much they know.LMAO

I'd love for some names of these groups. Remember there is a difference between first and second party developers, so ones that seem to be first party may actually be second party.

Anyways, please share the list to see how many first party developers there are for the Playstation.

im going to dig up the graph on beyond3d forum and ill post it as soon as i got it

ok as im STILL searching for this dumb graph the companies name is media molecule.sony purchased them after getting pitched the idea for little big planet.they are now first party

Turtle, you repeatedly double post on these forums, please edit your previous posts!

Not many compaines do manage to fill the maximum storage capacity however if there is more space available, then 75% may be filled up, however this is still going to be more then what we have at the moment. Maybe soon enough we could be seeing a much higher potential of the PS3

i guess just delete them then if you dont like my posts

Ok. Anymore?

Also, it's interesting that they were only formed in January 2006. This seems to be their first game too. Well, I think we do need more British game developers, although I would have prefered them on a Nintendo console.

*sigh* I miss Rare...

Rare was good. Anyone else a big fan of Conkers bad fur day? best game ever made .. maybe lol

As for MMs first game, it was rag doll kung fu found on STEAM. A popular downloadable game that uses the Half Life 2 engine and physics system.

Loved that game. And most other Rare games. Although never got to try Jet Force Gemini, but even ones like Blast Crops were brilliant.

:o Rare! Didn't they make "Killer Instinct"? That game was amazing!

Yep they did. Also a game that incorporated the "Death Move". Only a handful of fighters did that, which is something I liked. It gave you that much more to fight for, to have a shot at performing the finishing blow. Probably would have liked Tekken and Street Fighter more if they would have had the same thing...

They did a whole host of games. Although they've had bad luck since going over to the Xbox. Haven't had quite the same success. It's a pity, cos Rare own the rights to the franchises, even though most of the people who produced the classics in rare are now elsewhere.

It was a bad move to sell their shares to Microsoft...

While Blu-Ray has about the same or slightly better cost per GB than current gen DVD, that only counts if they're filling the disc. For a 5 or 10 or 20GB game, it is still cheaper to manufacture multiple DVDs than a single Blu-Ray.

i would love to see some facts on that.anything to back that up?

Im a big fan of Conker's bad Fur Day, and yes it was the best bloody, bad language, disgusting, funny game out there on the N64! And it was one of the best games ever made by rare, on the N64!!!
But dont forget about Perfect Dark, and Also GOLDENEYE 007!
Now these i have to say are the best shooting games on the N64's life-cylce!

Single layer Blu-Ray capacity is 25GB. A dual layer DVD9 holds 7.95GB. One major replication plant is charging $1.30/disc for a SL Blu-Ray and $0.50/disc for a DL DVD9, both a 25,000 disc run. This puts the cost/GB at $0.052 on Blu-Ray and $0.063 on DVD.

So the breaking point is somewhere between 2 and 3 discs, or 16 and 25 GB. That is, it's more cost effective to put a 8-16GB game on 2 DVDs than 1 Blu-Ray, but more cost effective to put a 16GB+ game on a single Blu-Ray than 3 DVDs.

This doesn't take into account development, advertising, packaging, or the million other little costs that go into that $59.99 you actually end up paying for a game. In the end, the physical manufacturing difference isn't that great.

http://wesleytech.com/blu-ray-vs-hd-...-revealed/111/

The article is from February, so maybe costs have come down (although they'd come down for both, so that can't be a great big factor).

P.S. I used the single layer Blu-Ray in the figuring because it's in Sony's advantage. Making a 50GB DL Blu-Ray puts the breaking point at more like 4-5 discs.

No...its not, you could not be more wrong with that statment