Now that sounds like a ****ing hater. its ok to have the roms on pc, but put it on the psp and its a crime. two faced ass shit. so is it ok when you make that disk that lets you play old games on the gamecube? which could be used on the wii. since it plays those games. i guess thats ok cause it nintendo's? trying to bitch about illegal roms like you are the perfect citizen.

no i was just making a point. you you dont get it, you dont get it.




so when 9-11 happened, we went over there "looking for oil??" plus saddam getting hung. still no bin ladin. people dying? sounds like war to me. if we where there to help then why does it take 7 years to "help" people?


wont even address this

Don't be stupid. I didn't say you lean more towards fanboy, read the post you just quoted, I didn't say YOU lean more towards a fanboy, though I think that now because of all this crap. Every try that? READING the post? And why the hell do you think I called you dumb, because you started your post off by calling three members gay ninty fanboys and then went into detail. That, sir, is stupidity at the uttermost highest level.
Loser, I never called you a fanboy. In fact, I PM'd hotpotato and said "he actually would have sounded smart if not for the bullshit at the beginning." I can copy and paste the PM right now if you want me to.

Tell me how i'm a fanboy show even 1, single post where i'm bashing the PS3/360 ANYWHERE. Just try; but I know you won't because you know that you're just spouting out crap that's not true.

Did I honestly need to give a reason? It was so apparent that a blind person would have noticed it; but just so you're happy I already put a reason in my 1st paragraph.

Everything I say is based on FACTS that I KNOW you imbecile. Did you not see when Shift was listing all those facts about the PSP and how it will become great competition for all consoles, I said, "wow...sweet. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE PSP SO I CAN'T DEBATE WITH YOU ON THAT; BUT YOU SURE DID JUST LIST A LOT OF REASON FOR ME TO BUY IT"

If you praise Shift as your god, then see what he has to say. He already said i'm not a fanboy at all, and i've already expressed my opinions about hotpotato78 and MasterJedi2U.

Think before your post, it's a helpful technique when you want to, you know, sound intelligent.

sorry mate my bad, i refer to masterjedi as jedi, u reffered to him as master, so it didnt click to me. and i read all this at work while alt tabbing every few seconds so i dont get caught during work, so i miss words here n there sometimes, thats why half my posts are all edited, my bad.

i dont praise shift as my god.. lol i dont even read his posts.

if your not a fanboy then ill take that back, but after reading some of your posts it made it seem to me that u, hotpotato, and jedi team up in other threads to bash on certain products. If its not like that then forget what i said.

Jonny i wont lie to you but there was no excuse nor reason possible for what you did. It was done out of immaturity... We don't plan to be in the same thread. Sometimes we just end up there and usually there always be someone talking garbage.. But hey I no i am not a fanboy, plus i don't call myself one..... But all three of us could talk for each other. I never go around bashing anything. But dude you surely did make your self an enemy because of this. Even though i'm cool now but dude you cross some serious borders that wasn't meant to cross.. The way you use fanboy , is the same reason we say it is over used.

Actually it's more like this. MasterJedi2U posts, Shift debates him (or vice versa) and me potato are just somewhere in the mix. :/

The only reason I said that is because I was exaggerating out of frustration, but it's just that you don't pick him out, but you did us three....

And no, us three don't gang up and bash on other products.

I agree the Ps3 is a heck of a good deal but I really don't wan't Blu ray shoved down my throat because I still don't see nothing wrong with DVD's and I Like my regular TV the way it is and I am not ready and can't afford to upgrade to a HDTV......but in 4-5 years time i will seriously consider getting a HDTV and by then wii2 or xbox1000 will be out and i will want the new one not the old ps3.

How is blue ray shoved down your throat? If you dont want blue ray then the system is probably not the right system for you. No one forces you to want a console. I could say, "the wii is one heck of a system, but why do they shove using the wiimote down my throat? I just want a regular controler and no wiisports". Each product is packaged in a way where you want what it has or you dont. If you get a bag of trail mix (food) and love everything in it except for the raisins.. then are you going to complain that the company making the trail mix is shoving the raisins down your throat? No you either buy the bag of snacks and dont eat the raisins or you dont buy it and get another snack.

Regular DVDs hold 4.7 gigabytes. We are at that cross roads where we need a bit more than 4.7 gigs. Probably not the 50gigs sony is offering but thats intended for the long term approach. But we do need more than 4.7 for next gen gaming. HD tvs are becoming more and more common, to make up for this, more HD friendly disks are needed to become more common. DVDs dont help those with HD tvs.

If you are turned off by the PS3 then its clear you are not who they are marketing the product too. Thats all, its just that simple.

Sony just sent me a Blu-ray Casino Royale!

I would have to say this sounds quite correct there shift. BUT doesn't trail mix have different varietys in those snacks(i could be wrong). but the problem with your example is. You can take the raisins out of it. But you can't take the blu ray out of the PS3. So that example is incorrect. Plus there is a difference between food and electronics/games.... Food usually comes in many variety, when the consoles only come in one. So their is a case to say that sony is shoving blu ray down your throat because you have no other choice but to buy the system with blu ray.......

The wii example i give you props for in a way.... The problem with that is. The wii has more than one controller. In the interview with someone from ssmb, they told the games not to throw away their GC controller. So that could mean their is a possiblity it will be used in that game..... But i do feel as if nintendo should have made to special controllers. one being the wiimote and the other being the wiicontroller. So that people can choice whether they want to swing there wii mote or just sit down with the wiicontroller and not have to move anything other than your thumbs and a few other fingers.

I thought this discussion was supposed to be about ps3?

You either choose to not understand it, or cant. Key work here: Packaging. Doesnt matter the product, food or electronics, its all the same. Marketing and packaging.

Nothing i have said in my post has any problems. The analogy is quite correct. You are in the mood for snacks. Meaning you are the target audience and the product is aiming for you as the hungry consumer.

The package includes different things. Like consoles, they include a mixture of hardware and software. Its built off of a recipe of many things to create a whole. You either deal with it or get something that you like. Packaging, marketing.

Nothing is being shoved down anyones throat. I have yet to see trail mix without raisins, but if you dont like that example, then how about M&M's. You dont like the green M&M. But the package includes them, what do you do? do you say they are shoving green M&Ms down your throat (pun intended) or do you deal with it. Either buy what the package offers or look for something else.

In the same reguards, the wii is shoving the wiimote down my throat? the 360 is shoving that big bulky powercord down my throat. What if i dont want a dvd player at all, what if i want a cd player. Are they shoving the dvd player down my throat? You see how lame that sounds?

A product is packaged with many parts that make a whole. Dont like the package, dont complain and move onto another product. Like the product but dont like one part of it? then you have to decide if you will get it reguardless or move on. Simple.




thanks.

Shift you miss the whole point of what i was saying....... Shift you can not use the trail mix example because you can take out the raisins. With the PS3 and wii can't do that. For the ps3 you can't take out the blu ray so then this is when you have to deal with it. You could buy trail mix and not complain because you can separate the raisins and whatever have...When it comes to electronics its a difference......you don't have a choice with those consoles but you have a choice with the trail mix. You have to live or die with those consoles hardware and software. but with food you can simply take out what you don't like.......

You can take out the blue ray, but it wont do you any good because you still have to pay for it.

Same with trail mix. You CAN pick out the raisins, BUT, you still are paying for the package. Same thing works with the PS3. Thankfully that Blue Ray player plays cds,dvds, and blue ray so you really dont have much to complain about.

Get it now?

You are honestly going to use that first sentence.... you know if you take out the blu ray thats the end of the Ps3 because blue ray is its foundation.....With trail mix, raisins is not a foundation of it because you can take it out and still have a great package. You take out the blu ray and you don't have a great package.. it wouldn't do you any good to take out the blu ray..... but some people can be allergic to raisins or what ever else, so it would do them good to take out what they dont like or allergic to.