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Old 08-15-2007, 02:16 AM  
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Wuddle I'm gonna redo my snorlax for sure, skarmory no I don't wanna redo that, I think nothing you said bout my skarmory bothers me, thanks for the spikes info. Salamence is looking pretty good in my opinion in battles, so I'm keeping that. I said what I'm doing with gengar, and yes I've tried life orb tyranitar and when I was using life orb I was thinking choice band t-tar, but i said NO WAY when I forgot that it had dragon dance.....But you didn't answer this...I will repeat it:

Very basic team....I mean VERY....So many OU pokemon....I'm deciding what to use, electivire(My very first EV trained pokemon), or starmie, I heard that starmie is faster, and ice punch won't really take out a garchomp...or will it? How much does the expert belt increase it by? Sorry if wrong section, and if so can it take out a good EV trained garchomp w/ good natures and stuff? So I'm deciding between starmie and electivire, and also what are good OU pokemon? I'm deciding what to get for an OU team cuz I'm gonna make one. Oh wow, I never really noticed, but when my EV trained pokemon by me are fully ev trained and have full movesets and stuff and are finished training(Which are only two pokemon), they are lvl 33...Oh and I forgot, I might replace snorlax with blissey, or put both on my team, or stay, but I really like blissey and I for sure am gonna get one
Lol i honestly ignored that part after reading through the first two lines. It sounded like a blonde person talking fast [no offense to blondes] Expert Belt is supposed to be a +20% increase to the base power of the super effective attack. Ice Punch should be OHKOing Garchomp I think. But however Garchomp is faster then Electivire. If you use Ice Beam with Starmie, I still think it Ohko's it and Starmie is faster.
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Lol i honestly ignored that part after reading through the first two lines. It sounded like a blonde person talking fast [no offense to blondes] Expert Belt is supposed to be a +20% increase to the base power of the super effective attack. Ice Punch should be OHKOing Garchomp I think. But however Garchomp is faster then Electivire. If you use Ice Beam with Starmie, I still think it Ohko's it and Starmie is faster.
So should I use starmie or electivire? And should I use blissey or snorlax or both? Or should I use starmie AND electivire?
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So should I use starmie or electivire? And should I use blissey or snorlax or both? Or should I use starmie AND electivire?
If you were to use Starmie, I don't think that Gengar would be necessary as they are both looking like Special sweepers. If you wanted to choose between the two though, I think Starmie>Electivire just because of the speed difference. I'm not a particularly big fan of the pink fatass, but I'd say use Blissey if you want to garruntee a solid sp def wall. Otherwise your other fatass walls good too.
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If you were to use Starmie, I don't think that Gengar would be necessary as they are both looking like Special sweepers. If you wanted to choose between the two though, I think Starmie>Electivire just because of the speed difference. I'm not a particularly big fan of the pink fatass, but I'd say use Blissey if you want to garruntee a solid sp def wall. Otherwise your other fatass walls good too.
Lol! Fatass! Well okay this is gonna be my different team combinations:

My OU sets:

Electivire
Salamence
Gengar
T-tar
Blissey
Skarmory

Electivire
Salamence
Starmie
T-tar
Blissey
Skarmory

Electivire
Garchomp(I wanna get one, it's pretty popular)
Gengar
T-tar
Blissey
Skarmory

Electivire
Garchomp
Starmie
T-tar
Blissey
Skarmory

What's some good UU pokemon?
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http://neoseeker.com/forums/24412/t933908-neoseeker-diamond-pearl-tier-list-2007-round-4-updated-8-6-07/

use that, it isn't 100% completely right, but I'm pretty sure the uu's and crap like that are okay

sorry for my laziness lol
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garchomps are good for a physical sweeper. and weaviles amke a good choice also.
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Please rate my team to-be

Charizard-
Metal claw
Flamethrower
Outrage
Air slash

Lucario-
Extremespeed
Dragon pulse
Aura sphere
Either bone rush or dark pulse

Garchomp-
Dig
Crunch
Iron head
Outrage

Lapras-
Ice beam
Brine
Body Slam
Confuse ray

Spiritomb-
Hypnosis
Dream eater
Destiny Bond
Sucker Punch

Electivire-
Thunderpunch
Fire punch
Ice Punch
Karate Chop

Thanks!!! Also, what should i ev train each of my pokes in?

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Here's my team, I'm thinking about putting a Curse-Lax in my team or a Starmie. My team has soo many physical sweepers! I don't know what to do about that! Well rate my team plz:

Electivire/Adamant/Expert Belt
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Cross Chop
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch

Garchomp/Adamant/Life Orb
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Iron Head

Blissey/Bold/Leftovers
EV's:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Def

Moves:
Seismic Toss
Stealth Rock
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

Gallade/Adamant/I don't know item help me out on this. Oh and I'm looking to replace gallade with a Curse-Lax or starmie
EV's:252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Stone Edge
Night Slash
Earthquake
Leaf Blade

Skarmory/Lax/Chesto Berry
EV's:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, and I don't know others

Moves:
Spikes
Roar
Fly
Rest

Gengar/Modest/Petaya Berry or the thing that raises Sp. Atk
EV's: 252 Speed, 10 Atk(YES, I know it's bad I accidentally killed a goldeen so now I need 1 or 2 de-EV berries for atk), not finished EV training. It will look like this:252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP

Moves:
Substitute
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Focus Blast
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rate my team



shiny blaziken
lv 53


HP 157
attack 190(to the max)
def 82
sp attack 140
sp def 90
speed 106

shadow claw blast burn flamethrower brick break



kingdra(about to take out)
lv 82

HP 246
attack 195
def 180
sp atk 191
sp def 180
speed 172

dragon pulse waterfall surf ice beam

blastoise
lv 58

HP 167
atk 127
def 137
sp atk 130
sp def 136
speed 108

surf flash cannon ice beam hydro pump

donphan
45

HP 149
atk 126
def 113
sp atk 68
sp def 67
speed 62

magnitude slam assurance rollout

dragonite
lv 57

HP 193
atk 196(to the max)
def 128
sp atk 132
sp def 132
speed 110

aqua tail dragon claw dragon dance fly(hey i need a flyer)


gallade
lv 62

atk 220
def 101
sp atk 86
sp def 146
speed 135


psycho cut brick break night slash skill swap(good for double)





i know i suck but just rate
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OK Heres My New Team

Forest(torterra) LV 100 male
Relaxed nature
Item :Quick Claw
Stats
ATK 298
DEF 337
SP.ATK 230
SP.DEF 247
SPEED 182

Moves
Wood Hammer
Earthquake
Leech Seed
Crunch
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Luxrio(Luxray) lv 78 male
Hasty Nature
Item:Magnet

Stats
ATK 256
DEF 163
SP.ATK 210
SP.DEF 200
SPEED 190

Moves
Thunderbolt
Charge
Iron Tail
Crunch
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Cascada(Tyranitar) lv100 female
Mild Nature
Item:Quick Claw
Stats
ATK 362
DEF 275
SP.ATK 316
SP.DEF 288
SPEED 192

Moves
Crunch
Thunderbolt
EarthQuake
IceFang
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Luzil(Shiny Garchomp) lv100 female
Naughty Nature
Item :Leftovers

Stats
ATK 377
DEF 284
SP.ATK 259
SP.DEF 228
SPEED 300

Moves
Crunch
Fire blast
Earthquake
Dragon Rush
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ZigZag(Shiny Zangoose) lv84 female
Sassy Nature
Item:None

Stats
ATK 251
DEF 183
SP.ATK 171
SP.DEF 179
SPEED 209

Moves
Iron Tail
Close Combat
Attract
X-Scissor
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Ion(Shiny Latios) lv100 male
RASH nature
Item:Mind Plate

Stats
ATK 264
DEF 252
SP.ATK 292
SP.DEF 279
SPEED 304

Moves
Luster Purge
Shadow Claw
Dragon Pulse
EarthQuake
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since you dont EV (or do you) your pokemon's nature (some) doesnt go along with the pokemon itself.

Forest(torterra) LV 100 male
Relaxed nature <---------- not bad.
Item :Quick Claw
Stats
ATK 298 (the stats pretty high than what it should be, mybe its EV spread)
DEF 337
SP.ATK 230
SP.DEF 247
SPEED 182

Moves
Wood Hammer
Earthquake
Leech Seed
Crunch <------toxic maybe.
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Luxrio(Luxray) lv 78 male
Hasty Nature
Item:Magnet

Stats
ATK 256
DEF 163
SP.ATK 210
SP.DEF 200
SPEED 190

Moves
Thunderbolt
Charge <------ice fang i say ( it wont last long a physicl hit so no time to buffer charge ._.)
Iron Tail <------- maybe fire fang?
Crunch
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Cascada(Tyranitar) lv100 female
Mild Nature
Item:Quick Claw
Stats
ATK 362 (dunno looks pretty high from wht it should be)
DEF 275 (moves are good to go i think)
SP.ATK 316
SP.DEF 288
SPEED 192

Moves
Crunch
Thunderbolt
EarthQuake
IceFang
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Luzil(Shiny Garchomp) lv100 female
Naughty Nature
Item :Leftovers

Stats
ATK 377 (once again stats are pretty high specially def, sp attack)
DEF 284 compare to mine its really high specially with 300 speed i suppose
SP.ATK 259 its EV in speed and attack but the def doesnt match as well)
SP.DEF 228
SPEED 300

Moves
Crunch
Fire blast
Earthquake
Dragon Rush
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ZigZag(Shiny Zangoose) lv84 female
Sassy Nature
Item:None

Stats
ATK 251
DEF 183
SP.ATK 171
SP.DEF 179
SPEED 209

Moves
Iron Tail
Close Combat
Attract
X-Scissor
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Ion(Shiny Latios) lv100 male
RASH nature
Item:Mind Plate

Stats (same with these 1)
ATK 264
DEF 252
SP.ATK 292
SP.DEF 279
SPEED 304

Moves
Luster Purge
Shadow Claw
Dragon Pulse
EarthQuake
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the rest are good to go, some of the poke has hacked stats, assuming they are higher stats than normal ones.
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Here's my team, I'm thinking about putting a Curse-Lax in my team or a Starmie. My team has soo many physical sweepers! I don't know what to do about that! Well rate my team plz:

Electivire/Adamant/Expert Belt
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Cross Chop
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch

Garchomp/Adamant/Life Orb
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Iron Head

Blissey/Bold/Leftovers
EV's:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Def

Moves:
Seismic Toss
Stealth Rock
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

Gallade/Adamant/I don't know item help me out on this. Oh and I'm looking to replace gallade with a Curse-Lax or starmie
EV's:252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Stone Edge
Night Slash
Earthquake
Leaf Blade

Skarmory/Lax/Chesto Berry
EV's:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, and I don't know others

Moves:
Spikes
Roar
Fly
Rest

Gengar/Modest/Petaya Berry or the thing that raises Sp. Atk
EV's: 252 Speed, 10 Atk(YES, I know it's bad I accidentally killed a goldeen so now I need 1 or 2 de-EV berries for atk), not finished EV training. It will look like this:252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP

Moves:
Substitute
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Focus Blast
Rate my team plz
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Originally Posted by Slimi
Here's my team, I'm thinking about putting a Curse-Lax in my team or a Starmie. My team has soo many physical sweepers! I don't know what to do about that! Well rate my team plz:

Electivire/Adamant/Expert Belt
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Cross Chop <-------- brick break better accuracy
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch

Garchomp/Adamant/Life Orb
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Earthquake
Dragon Claw <-------------no use u have outrage already i suggest rockslide
Outrage
Iron Head

Blissey/Bold/Leftovers
EV's:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Def

Moves:
Seismic Toss
Stealth Rock
Softboiled
Thunder Wave (good to go i suppose)

Gallade/Adamant/I don't know item help me out on this. Oh and I'm looking to replace gallade with a Curse-Lax or starmie
EV's:252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Moves:
Stone Edge <-----------psycho cut, why? high critic as well and better accuracy and almost same power as well 70 + 20 stab is 90 power
Night Slash
Earthquake
Leaf Blade

Skarmory/Lax/Chesto Berry
EV's:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, and I don't know others

Moves:
Spikes
Roar
Fly
Rest<------------------i say roost

Gengar/Modest/Petaya Berry or the thing that raises Sp. Atk
EV's: 252 Speed, 10 Atk(YES, I know it's bad I accidentally killed a goldeen so now I need 1 or 2 de-EV berries for atk), not finished EV training. It will look like this:252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP

Moves:
Substitute
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb <-----------maybe psychic?
Focus Blast

i say salac berry, but petaya works too, but if its modest gengar then salac berry.
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@ slimi

Electivire: either earthquake or fire punch.
Blissey: teach it psychic, itl die due to a physical attack, though
Garchomp: replace dragon claw with crunch
Gallade: fine
Skarmory: teach it stone edge
Gengar: fine

@ diamond matt

Blaziken: replace blast burn with stone edge or solabeam
Kingdra: fine, DON’T TAKE OUT!!!!
Blastoise: replace it with something else seeing as you already have kingdra
Donphan: assurance and rollout should be replace with fire and thunderfang
Dragonite: replace it with something else seeing as you already have kingdra
Gallade: maybe replace skill swap with stone edge

@emmspokemon

Torterra: replace wood hammer or leech seed with stone edge
Luxray: replace charge with ice fang
Tyannitar: replace crunch with aerial ace
Garchomp: replace dragon rush and fire blast with outrage or dragon claw and flamethrower
Zangoose: replace attract with aerial ace, maybe
Latios: not a lot of people like legends.
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Electivire: either earthquake or fire punch.
Blissey: teach it psychic, itl die due to a physical attack, though
Garchomp: replace dragon claw with crunch
Gallade: fine
Skarmory: teach it stone edge
Gengar: fine

@ diamond matt

Blaziken: replace blast burn with stone edge or solabeam
Kingdra: fine, DON’T TAKE OUT!!!!
Blastoise: replace it with something else seeing as you already have kingdra
Donphan: assurance and rollout should be replace with fire and thunderfang
Dragonite: replace it with something else seeing as you already have kingdra
Gallade: maybe replace skill swap with stone edge

@emmspokemon

Torterra: replace wood hammer or leech seed with stone edge
Luxray: replace charge with ice fang
Tyannitar: replace crunch with aerial ace
Garchomp: replace dragon rush and fire blast with outrage or dragon claw and flamethrower
Zangoose: replace attract with aerial ace, maybe
Latios: not a lot of people like legends.

welll Latios is my fav poke so he always stays in my team

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hey i go with my way(u dont even know wat skill swap is for)

and knigdra im takeing him out(im makeing my team with diff typs)
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