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Old 01-20-2008, 12:50 PM  
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Hisshot sounds like his shot as in (he toke his shot and he missed the toilet)

Yeah I kinda figured someone would pick that out sooner or later. That's just how the name looks, but if you were to say it, it'd sound like "Hiss" (like a snake's hiss), and "Hot" (like something's hot temperature wise). It's not "his" "shot".

That's really the only good Fire-like name I could come up with for a Snake Pokemon Fire Type. The other names I came up with didn't really sound too good.

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I think the idea of Fire, Water, and Grass/Plant has been used to much. How about an electric starter or rock or fighting. Anything, really. Who said it had to fire, water or grass besides tradition?

Well I think the reason the Pokemon starters in each game are always Grass, Fire and Water types are because probobably the creators of the game wanted to go with something similar to the main elements of the Earth or something...Fire, Land (or Grass), & Water. I also think they wanted to stick with what was being shown on the TV show too. I personally like the Fire, Grass, or Water tradition, but yeah I agree with you to some degree iOwnage. Maybe they could throw in a game that gives you different options. Maybe instead of being given a Pokemon to start with, you'd have to catch your own in the wild, that'd be cool.

But I doubt the tradition will change much. The only game I've played that gave you a totally different type of starter was Pokemon Yellow, where you'd get Pikachu as your starter, but again, that game was based on the Cartoon show, like what I mentioned earlier.

It seems they have tried to put a bit of variety in the evolution stages of the starters though, like Empoleon's Steel type, or Charizard's Flying type. If you count up the other starter evolutions you'll find some differences in their second type:
Charizard - Fire/Flying
Venusaur - Grass/Poison
Blaziken - Fire/Fighting
Swampert - Water/Ground
Torterra - Grass/Ground
Infernape - Fire/Fighting
Empoleon - Water/Steel

Maybe this is the Pokemon Company's way of putting different types with the starters...

I've seen somewhere on the internet one time, that they were thinking about making a Psychic, Fighting and Dark starter trio. That would be a good starter trio, because Psychic beats Fighting, Fighting beats Dark, and Dark beats Psychic, an intertwined circle where one type beats the other. Just like Fire beats Grass, Grass beats Water, and Water beats Fire.
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Grass
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Water

This little cycle is used since it is at it's most basic, the easiest three part cycle to understand, being that one is resisted, and one is 2x SE to each side.

The only other alternative to a balanced starter point, would be something like
Psychic, Dark, Fighting. The problem with this is that dark is COMPLEATLY immune to psychic. The idea is that starters have the rock paper scissors relationship with each other.
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...The idea is that starters have the rock paper scissors relationship with each other.

Well put Strype McClaine. That's basically why the only starters that would be a good fit are always Grass, Fire and Water.

I like the "Rock-Paper-Scissors" analogy too.

Hope that answers your question about why there's only Grass Fire and Water starters iOwnage.
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Well put Strype McClaine. That's basically why the only starters that would be a good fit are always Grass, Fire and Water.

I like the "Rock-Paper-Scissors" analogy too.

Hope that answers your question about why there's only Grass Fire and Water starters iOwnage.
What if they added a Paper and Scissors type!!!! They already have a Rock type so........
Mabye Sizeor(The guy that evolves from Syther) v.s. Geodude and .........ummm....Mr.Paper!!!
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What if they added a Paper and Scissors type!!!! They already have a Rock type so........
Mabye Sizeor(The guy that evolves from Syther) v.s. Geodude and .........ummm....Mr.Paper!!!
Ummn, I already made that joke in my first post.
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What if they added a Paper and Scissors type!!!! They already have a Rock type so........
Mabye Sizeor(The guy that evolves from Syther) v.s. Geodude and .........ummm....Mr.Paper!!!

paper and scizzer type would be pointless...
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paper and scizzer type would be pointless...
=c :l...I was kidding....and Jeff,just a suggestion,but mabye you could have a SHINYPokemon Avatar!!!!
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What if they added a Paper and Scissors type!!!! They already have a Rock type so........
Mabye Sizeor(The guy that evolves from Syther) v.s. Geodude and .........ummm....Mr.Paper!!!

I'd have to agree with Plazmis on that one.

No offense Nick Atack, but a "Paper" type and "Scissor" type Pokemon would be kinda silly. I think they have enough types as far as they go. There's already 17 types, not to mention the "Shadow" type from Pokemon XD.

It used to be just 15, but once the Gold/Silver/Crystal games cam out, they added "Dark" and "Steel", which brought the total Pokemon types to 17.

I'd just like to take a minute to voice my oppinions about those Contest buildings found in some Pokemon games.
I think the Contests from the Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, and Diamond/Pearl are just a waste of time. I mean, no male Pokemon player will ever even enter a Contest tent/building unless it contained a decent item or TM. I think the reason for the Contest feature of these games are intended for female Pokemon players, if there are any, which I'm sure are.

Personally, I've never entered a Contest exept for the first time (just to see what it was like). You don't get anything important for winning, except a Ribbon, and maybe an Item and a small photo of your winning Pokemon on the wall of the building.
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=c :l...I was kidding....and Jeff,just a suggestion,but mabye you could have a SHINYPokemon Avatar!!!!

nah, I prefer the normal colored Pokemon. It's just a personal preferance though.

But thanks for the suggestion Nick!

And if you or anyone else is woundering...my next post of new starter ideas is coming soon, just have to think some more about them!
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paper and scizzer type would be pointless...
=c :l...I was kidding....and Jeff,just a suggestion,but mabye you could have a SHINYPokemon Avatar!!!!
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I'd have to agree with Plazmis on that one.

No offense Nick Atack, but a "Paper" type and "Scissor" type Pokemon would be kinda silly. I think they have enough types as far as they go. There's already 17 types, not to mention the "Shadow" type from Pokemon XD.

It used to be just 15, but once the Gold/Silver/Crystal games cam out, they added "Dark" and "Steel", which brought the total Pokemon types to 17.

I'd just like to take a minute to voice my oppinions about those Contest buildings found in some Pokemon games.
I think the Contests from the Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, and Diamond/Pearl are just a waste of time. I mean, no male Pokemon player will ever even enter a Contest tent/building unless it contained a decent item or TM. I think the reason for the Contest feature of these games are intended for female Pokemon players, if there are any, which I'm sure are.

Personally, I've never entered a Contest exept for the first time (just to see what it was like). You don't get anything important for winning, except a Ribbon, and maybe an Item and a small photo of your winning Pokemon on the wall of the building.
Contests arnt pointless,there kinda fun....and if you beat all Master Contest you will get somthing I think.....and in the Big Picture of things,the Game is only for fun,like thae Contest in the game is only for fun.....
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I was Kidding!...and contest arnt pointless,there kinda fun....and if you beat all Master Contest you will get somthing I think.....and in the Big Picture of things,the Game is only for fun,like thae Contest in the game is only for fun.....

True, I'll admit, the game is for fun all in all, but some people take it too seriously...I just don't like contests, that's probably why I put them down alot.
Sorry if I offended ya or whatever.

BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THIS THREAD IS GETTING A BIT OFF TOPIC...IT MIGHT"VE BEEN MY FAULT THOUGH, BUT LETS GET BACK TO STARTER IDEAS FOR A POSSIBLE 5TH GENERATION!
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True, I'll admit, the game is for fun all in all, but some people take it too seriously...I just don't like contests, that's probably why I put them down alot.
Sorry if I offended ya or whatever.BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THIS THREAD IS GETTING A BIT OFF TOPIC...IT MIGHT"VE BEEN MY FAULT THOUGH, BUT LETS GET BACK TO STARTER IDEAS FOR A POSSIBLE 5TH GENERATION!
Na I dont like em like Major,but there cool I guess...no offence taken....what I ment by Shiny ,Jeff,is,a Pokemon of a different color,like a Shiny Charazard is Black,and a Shiny Gyarados is Red.....
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And heres my updated Pokemon List:
OK,a Water Squid Starter,a Skeleten crab Jack o lanturn guy,and a Grass Starter that looks kinda like a Flying Thwomp that bumps things...

Water
Squikala-Squid Pokemon-a Mini Squid with a Sea Shell hat-Water-Best Stat is Speed-Worst is Special Attack
Tentifan-Tenticle Pokemon-Has HUGE Tenticles and in a Seashell-Water-Best Stat is Defence-Worst is Specal Attack
Cethalasquid-Giant Squid Pokemon-A Giant Squid with Spiky Suckers,horns,and Blue tipped tenticles-has beak that can breath ice-Water Dragon-Sig Move-Tentacle Blast-Fun Fact-Cethala comes from the Squid and Octopus Family called Cethalapoda.There are more members than just Squids and Octopuses in the Family-Best Stat is Speed and Attack-Worst is ...well,Defence is a bit worse than the others

Grass
Bumbillbee-Bumper Pokemon-a Square tiny Green Bee like Pokemon-Grass-Bumbillbee is a pun on Bump and bee-Best Stat is Speed-Worst is Specel.Attack
Thumpath-Bumper Pokemon-A big Green Pokemon with Spikes and more wings-Grass Rock-Best Stat is Speed-Worst is Special Atack
Smashtrek-Destruction Pokemon-still has wings,huge and green,Arms and Legs with MANY Spikes on body-Grass Rock-Sig Move is Smashing Finish-Fun Fact-Body is similar to Regice's.....-Beat Stats are attack and Speed.Speed is Suprizingly Good-Worst is Special attack

Fire
Pumpbones-Pumpkin Pokemon-A Jack o lantern that is set Ablaze-can see bones under it-Fire Grass-First Fire and Grass Type I think-Best Stat is Special Attack-Worst is Attack
Cartomaroe-Bone Pokemon-A Jack o lantern with Bones for legs-arms are Claw bones-on fire-Fire Ground-Best Stat is special Attack-worst is Speed
Skelifire- Bone Crab Pokemon-a Skeliten Crab with a Blazing Jack o lantern Shell-green roots under Pumpkin lanturn-Fire Ground-best at Defense and Special Defence-Worst at Speed-Sig move is Fire Root
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Hey Nick, I know what you mean when you say "Shiny Pokemon", but I prefer having avatars of Pokemon in their normal form/color.
I have some more ideas posted below, Nick, if you'd like a look \l/. Here's some more ideas I came up with recently for new starters:

Grass
Cubberry - Pronounced: "Kub" "Berry" (Bear Cub + Berry)
Bear Cub PKMN
Type: Grass
Height: 2'04" Weight: 31 lbs
Evolves at LV: 18
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Hibervine Pronounced: "Hi" "Burr" "Vine" (Hibernate + Vine)
Hibernate PKMN
Type: Grass
Height: 3'11" Weight: 78 lbs
Evolves at LV: 36
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Grizzleaf Pronounced: "Griz" "Leef" (Grizzly Bear + Leaf)
Grizzly Bear PKMN
Type: Grass/Dark
Height: 6'05" Weight: 346lbs
Description: A large Grizzly Pokemon that has strange leaf-like shields growing from its back and forearms. It also appears to be wearing a helmet, and can clear cut a forrest with its razor claws.
Stats: Highest = Attack, Lowest = Speed
Signature Move: Tree Snapper

Fire
Embunny Pronounced: "Em" "Bunn" "Eee" (Ember + Bunny)
Small Rabbit PKMN
Type: Fire
Height: 1'08" Weight: 25 lbs
Evolves at LV: 16
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Thumperupt Pronounced: "Thum" "Purr" "Rupt" (Thump + Erupt)
Volcano Hare PKMN
Type: Fire
Height: 3'03" Weight: 46lbs
Evolves at LV: 32
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Rabbignite Pronounced: "Rab" "Ig" "Nite" (Rabbit + Ignite)
Giant Rabbit PKMN
Type: Fire/Psychic *first Fire/Psychic type ever*
Height: 4'07" Weight: 80lbs
Description: A firey rabbit Pokemon that's ears are engulfed in flames. It's powerful hindlegs are extremely Powerful, and can deliver blows as hard as when a horse bucks. Along with it's tremendous kicks and fire attacks, it has psychic powers to fool enemies with.
Stats: Highest = Speed, Lowest = Defense/Sp. Attk
Signature Move: Blaze Kick

Water*You'll like this idea Nick
Squidrip Pronounced: "Skwi" "Drip" (Squid + Drip)
Sea Squid PKMN
Type: Water
Height: 2'00" Weight: 12lbs
Evolves at LV: 16
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Squidive Pronounced: "Skwi" "Dive" (Squid + Dive)
Squid PKMN
Type: Water
Height: 3'07" Weight: 26lbs
Evolves at LV: 36
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Squidrown Pronounced: "Skwi" "Drown" (Squid + Drown)
Electric Tentacle PKMN
Type: Water/Electric
Height: 5'11" Weight: 113lbs
Description: An enormous electrical squid Pokemon from the deep seas. It can wrap prey within its 9 powerful tentacles and zap them with electrical impulses corsing through Squidrown's body.
Stats: Highest = Sp. Attk, Lowest = Attack
Signature Move: Hydro Pump

By the way, for those of you still wondering if I'm still putting Pics/drawings of my ideas on this thread or not, don't worry, I'm still trying to do that! When I get them on my computer somehow, I'll definitly post them!
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