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SouthPaw26 · 02-05-2008, 08:07 PM

Can't find where the original thread went, but I figured we could start a new one since the 2008 season is coming up soon. Spring training is less than a month away, opening day 2008 is on March 31 (yay it starts early this season). I can't think of who else is playing that day except my boys, the Mets. So what is anyone else's thoughts?? Who's your team & how far to do think (or want them to) they will get??

As for the Mets, it couldn't get any sweeter this offseason. I mean Omar Minaya made a few moves here & there (my 2nd favorite to Santana being getting rid of Mota, my not so favorite trading Milledge, but at least we have 2 catchers that can throw now), but Johan Santana in a Mets uni is something I didn't see after the 2007 season ended. Not only that, but not having to give up Fernando Martinez seemed almost unreal to me as well!!! Only thing I think they should do now is sign another pitcher that can eat innings & add stability to the back of the rotation. That particular pitcher would be Livan Hernandez (El Duque's half brother). It's become obvious that El Duque is way too injury prone to stay in the rotation & moving him to the pen could bolster the pen as well. If there's anything else I'm more excited about than seeing Johan pitch, it's the return on Duaner Sanchez.

My expectations as far as the rotation:
Johan will get 18 wins & pitch the Mets 1st ever no hitter.
Pedro will get 12,13 wins, Johan takes a lot of pressure off of him since he doesn't have to be the ace.
Maine will get 16 wins.
Perez will get 14 wins, may eclipse 200 k's if he stays consistent. He's got one of the nastiest sliders I have ever seen.
If Livan comes along, 11 wins, the least of the rotation, but along with Johan, pitches over 200 innings.
Pelfrey/El Duque is too hard for me to predict because Duque seems to be out longer each year on the DL & Pelfrey got off to a pretty bad start, but near the end of the season looked much better...

blueovalboy7 · 02-07-2008, 03:45 PM

I'll find it and have Syntax move it over here, but yea Johan in a Met's uniform, who knew. I thought for sure he'd end up on the Yankees or Red Sox.

Bliss · 02-07-2008, 03:50 PM

ohhhh yess he looks damn good in orange and blue...great year to be a Met fan.

As for Livan they have already said they are not goin after him or any other pitcher, they are content with wat they have (can u blame them?) main reason why they arent goin for him is cuz there bullpen already is jam packed they have 5 guys fighting for that last spot come spring training. Also to add if u look at the stats of last season El Duque was there best pitcher.
Yea i was pretty bummed when they traded Lastings also but hey for wat we got it doesnt look THAT bad.
And keep Fernando and still gettin Johan was a complete shock to me but i am SOO glad it happened

blueovalboy7 · 02-07-2008, 04:10 PM

$137.5 million over 6 years, they can't afford to go after any other pitchers. That is just f***ing stupid, he's not worth that much, no player deserves to be paid as much as he's going to be and as much as A-rod gets paid. Win a Championship then I won't be as hostile.

Bliss · 02-07-2008, 04:13 PM

lol yea ur soo right as much as i love him being a Met, the whole money situation is getting out of hand. even players u never heard of are landing monster contracts, wish i went towards baseball in high school instead of football..

ohh and that Championship u mention, dont worry its comin!

manufan15 · 02-07-2008, 04:34 PM

I'm really excited this year, thanks to the Mets, my favorite team hands down. Last year was really depressing at the end, so I'm hoping they'll take care of the Phils and quiet all my annoying friends that like them.

Big_League_Slugger · 02-07-2008, 05:45 PM

GO FISH, win more than 71 games please

blueovalboy7 · 02-07-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_League_Slugger

GO FISH, win more than 71 games please

Haha, poor BLS, hopefully the Fish surprise you this year and finish around .500,

.

(Go Padres)

Earlier I heard that Schilling might be out for most of if not the entire year, thoughts?

Big_League_Slugger · 02-08-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by blueovalboy7

Haha, poor BLS, hopefully the Fish surprise you this year and finish around .500,

.

(Go Padres)

Earlier I heard that Schilling might be out for most of if not the entire year, thoughts?

MAybe.

Khalil got a payday, I'm happy for him. PAYDAY

blueovalboy7 · 02-09-2008, 06:14 AM

Can we stop talking about Pedro and the cockfight? I could care less, PETA can kiss my ass, and people need to stop thinking the U.S. is the moral compass for the world. Get the f*** over yourselves. (Sorry people piss me off.)

FWELR · 02-09-2008, 07:08 PM

Yeah, I wonder where the thread I started went. Thanks for starting a new one as I was lazy and rarely updated it. Here's hoping to a year of seeing Kevin Frandsen, Fred Louis, Dan Ortemier, Rajae Davis, etc. become superstars.

Reality: 100 losses coming right up.

Big_League_Slugger · 02-09-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FWELR

Yeah, I wonder where the thread I started went. Thanks for starting a new one as I was lazy and rarely updated it. Here's hoping to a year of seeing Kevin Frandsen, Fred Louis, Dan Ortemier, Rajae Davis, etc. become superstars.

Reality: 100 losses coming right up.

Our thread is in the lounge.

http://www.wiichat.com/lounge/21515-...lk-page51.html

blueovalboy7 · 02-13-2008, 04:26 AM

Today is the hearing for McNamee and Clemens, I'm curious to how this is going to play out.

Bliss · 02-13-2008, 07:43 AM

yea me to, starts up at 10am eastern here...also wat do u guys feel about wat John Rocker has said..saying that he failed a steriod test in 2000 and the Texas Rangers trainging staff coach them on how to use steroids properly. He also said A-Rod, Pudge and Palmerio (who already has been proven) were shown on how to use steriods.

blueovalboy7 · 02-14-2008, 04:48 AM

I think we need to accept that HGH and Steroids have been used by today's superstars and that in reality they're only hurting themselves. I don't like the idea of letting them keep records set while on performance enhancers, but what else can we do. I believe McNamee, but I think he should go to jail as well as Clemens. Clemens is obviously lying, McNamee is just dirty and was essentially a drug dealer to superstar players, I still think Clemens had/has pure talent and didn't need the drugs, but nonetheless I believe he used them.

Bliss · 02-14-2008, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueovalboy7

I think we need to accept that HGH and Steroids have been used by today's superstars and that in reality they're only hurting themselves. I don't like the idea of letting them keep records set while on performance enhancers, but what else can we do. I believe McNamee, but I think he should go to jail as well as Clemens. Clemens is obviously lying, McNamee is just dirty and was essentially a drug dealer to superstar players, I still think Clemens had/has pure talent and didn't need the drugs, but nonetheless I believe he used them.

i agree with u 100%...other then the fact of not all major league players used hgh or steriods. There are still alot of great players that have never used, so i dont think we can totally look down on MLB players. But yes Clemens was totally lying yesterday and deserves to go to jail. But i dont think McNamee will. Cuz u know the system if u give bargining chips either u will get a slap on the wrist or get away free. There is still a chance he might do some time but i doubt he will. And there is no doubt as much as i hate him for the stunt he pulled with Piazza, Clemens had raw talent. Its a shame that he ruined his name.

blueovalboy7 · 02-14-2008, 03:05 PM

Well I'm not saying we should look down on all the players, I'm just saying we need to accept the fact that the usage of performance enhancing drugs has been in practice for quite a few years now, and there isn't a whole lot we can do about it. Baseball has it's eras and this era will be known as the steroid era, it's just too hard to know who hasn't and who has used.

SouthPaw26 · 02-14-2008, 06:46 PM

John Rocker must die...

blueovalboy7 · 02-14-2008, 08:55 PM

John Rocker is a confirmed idiot, so his comments should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe him, I just think he's an idiot, and shouldn't butt into this matter.

duke_fan13 · 02-16-2008, 09:18 PM

I'm looking forward to the season, with the Angels making a few nice signings (Jon Garland and Torii Hunter). I think Hunter will finally give Vlad the protection he needs to hit right around .375 this year as long as he stays healthy. We only lost Orlando Cabrera, who wasn't especially amazing anyway...My main concern is whether or not our veteran outfielders can make it a full season.

02-05-2008, 08:07 PM	#1
SouthPaw26 MVP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 289 Friends: 6 7072-6720-4419-1341	Major League Baseball Can't find where the original thread went, but I figured we could start a new one since the 2008 season is coming up soon. Spring training is less than a month away, opening day 2008 is on March 31 (yay it starts early this season). I can't think of who else is playing that day except my boys, the Mets. So what is anyone else's thoughts?? Who's your team & how far to do think (or want them to) they will get?? As for the Mets, it couldn't get any sweeter this offseason. I mean Omar Minaya made a few moves here & there (my 2nd favorite to Santana being getting rid of Mota, my not so favorite trading Milledge, but at least we have 2 catchers that can throw now), but Johan Santana in a Mets uni is something I didn't see after the 2007 season ended. Not only that, but not having to give up Fernando Martinez seemed almost unreal to me as well!!! Only thing I think they should do now is sign another pitcher that can eat innings & add stability to the back of the rotation. That particular pitcher would be Livan Hernandez (El Duque's half brother). It's become obvious that El Duque is way too injury prone to stay in the rotation & moving him to the pen could bolster the pen as well. If there's anything else I'm more excited about than seeing Johan pitch, it's the return on Duaner Sanchez. My expectations as far as the rotation: Johan will get 18 wins & pitch the Mets 1st ever no hitter. Pedro will get 12,13 wins, Johan takes a lot of pressure off of him since he doesn't have to be the ace. Maine will get 16 wins. Perez will get 14 wins, may eclipse 200 k's if he stays consistent. He's got one of the nastiest sliders I have ever seen. If Livan comes along, 11 wins, the least of the rotation, but along with Johan, pitches over 200 innings. Pelfrey/El Duque is too hard for me to predict because Duque seems to be out longer each year on the DL & Pelfrey got off to a pretty bad start, but near the end of the season looked much better... __________________ Thanks to PH3AR on the Sheva sig!!! Last edited by SouthPaw26; 02-06-2008 at 05:02 PM.

02-07-2008, 03:45 PM	#2
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	I'll find it and have Syntax move it over here, but yea Johan in a Met's uniform, who knew. I thought for sure he'd end up on the Yankees or Red Sox. __________________

02-07-2008, 04:10 PM	#4
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	$137.5 million over 6 years, they can't afford to go after any other pitchers. That is just f***ing stupid, he's not worth that much, no player deserves to be paid as much as he's going to be and as much as A-rod gets paid. Win a Championship then I won't be as hostile. __________________

02-07-2008, 04:34 PM	#6
manufan15 Missing the Prime Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,629 Friends: 8 0000-0000-0000-0000	I'm really excited this year, thanks to the Mets, my favorite team hands down. Last year was really depressing at the end, so I'm hoping they'll take care of the Phils and quiet all my annoying friends that like them. __________________ PSWII

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02-07-2008, 03:50 PM	#3
Bliss WiiChat Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,625 Friends: 29 0000-0000-0000-0000	ohhhh yess he looks damn good in orange and blue...great year to be a Met fan. As for Livan they have already said they are not goin after him or any other pitcher, they are content with wat they have (can u blame them?) main reason why they arent goin for him is cuz there bullpen already is jam packed they have 5 guys fighting for that last spot come spring training. Also to add if u look at the stats of last season El Duque was there best pitcher. Yea i was pretty bummed when they traded Lastings also but hey for wat we got it doesnt look THAT bad. And keep Fernando and still gettin Johan was a complete shock to me but i am SOO glad it happened

02-07-2008, 04:13 PM	#5
Bliss WiiChat Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,625 Friends: 29 0000-0000-0000-0000	lol yea ur soo right as much as i love him being a Met, the whole money situation is getting out of hand. even players u never heard of are landing monster contracts, wish i went towards baseball in high school instead of football.. ohh and that Championship u mention, dont worry its comin!

02-09-2008, 06:14 AM	#10
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	Can we stop talking about Pedro and the cockfight? I could care less, PETA can kiss my ass, and people need to stop thinking the U.S. is the moral compass for the world. Get the f*** over yourselves. (Sorry people piss me off.) __________________

02-09-2008, 07:08 PM	#11
FWELR Bonds Passes Hank 8/7/07 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,614 Friends: 0 5926-3597-6847-7270	Yeah, I wonder where the thread I started went. Thanks for starting a new one as I was lazy and rarely updated it. Here's hoping to a year of seeing Kevin Frandsen, Fred Louis, Dan Ortemier, Rajae Davis, etc. become superstars. Reality: 100 losses coming right up. __________________ Join the Buy BWii Campaign and Buy BWii! Spoiler Alert! Midna is the Twilight Princess.

02-13-2008, 04:26 AM	#13
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	Today is the hearing for McNamee and Clemens, I'm curious to how this is going to play out. __________________

02-13-2008, 07:43 AM	#14
Bliss WiiChat Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,625 Friends: 29 0000-0000-0000-0000	yea me to, starts up at 10am eastern here...also wat do u guys feel about wat John Rocker has said..saying that he failed a steriod test in 2000 and the Texas Rangers trainging staff coach them on how to use steroids properly. He also said A-Rod, Pudge and Palmerio (who already has been proven) were shown on how to use steriods.

02-14-2008, 04:48 AM	#15
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	I think we need to accept that HGH and Steroids have been used by today's superstars and that in reality they're only hurting themselves. I don't like the idea of letting them keep records set while on performance enhancers, but what else can we do. I believe McNamee, but I think he should go to jail as well as Clemens. Clemens is obviously lying, McNamee is just dirty and was essentially a drug dealer to superstar players, I still think Clemens had/has pure talent and didn't need the drugs, but nonetheless I believe he used them. __________________

02-14-2008, 03:05 PM	#17
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	Well I'm not saying we should look down on all the players, I'm just saying we need to accept the fact that the usage of performance enhancing drugs has been in practice for quite a few years now, and there isn't a whole lot we can do about it. Baseball has it's eras and this era will be known as the steroid era, it's just too hard to know who hasn't and who has used. __________________

02-14-2008, 06:46 PM	#18
SouthPaw26 MVP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 289 Friends: 6 7072-6720-4419-1341	John Rocker must die... __________________ Thanks to PH3AR on the Sheva sig!!!

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02-14-2008, 08:55 PM	#19
blueovalboy7 They call me Hammy! Join Date: May 2007 Location: In The Valley, CA Posts: 2,566 Friends: 19 0000-0000-0000-0000	John Rocker is a confirmed idiot, so his comments should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe him, I just think he's an idiot, and shouldn't butt into this matter. __________________

02-16-2008, 09:18 PM	#20
duke_fan13 WiiChat Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114 Friends: 0	I'm looking forward to the season, with the Angels making a few nice signings (Jon Garland and Torii Hunter). I think Hunter will finally give Vlad the protection he needs to hit right around .375 this year as long as he stays healthy. We only lost Orlando Cabrera, who wasn't especially amazing anyway...My main concern is whether or not our veteran outfielders can make it a full season. __________________ Wii games: Super Mario Galaxy,Legend of Zelda-Twilight Princess,Super Paper Mario,Heatseeker,Wii Sports,Wii Play,Wing Island,Mario Party 8,RayMan Raving Rabbids Wish List: Super Smahs Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars 2.

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