Inadvertent character confirmation - Ness, Jigglypuff and Lucario Confirmed?

mushroomedmario · 01-21-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Prez

It is not necessarily confirmed that there will be no clones. To my knowledge, Sakurai touched on that subject some time ago, but there was really nothing set in stone.

all he said was that not all characters from melee will be returning
OP
(thread title could have been clearer)

to mingus, falco and fox were pretty different too........

Prez · 01-21-2008, 10:00 PM

Good point.
Fixed.

Mingus · 01-21-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Prez

It is not necessarily confirmed that there will be no clones. To my knowledge, Sakurai touched on that subject some time ago, but there was really nothing set in stone.

I'm not sure if what really stated but has been some what assumed by most. I personnally hope that this is true. If not then I hope that they don't go as clone crazy in Brawl as they were last game. Although, I just hope they don't sacrafice open spaces for clones. Like, between Krystal and Falco, I would obviously choose Krystal. But I would be slightly dissapointed if they choose Falco over her. I don't really think we have to worry about it too much though. I don't think we'll experience an issue with that in this game. Saything that every character so far isn't a clone.

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Originally Posted by mushroomedmario

to mingus, falco and fox were pretty different too........

I truely didn't play much with them. From the look of it, they seemed exactly the same. How are they different? I can understand that they may have felt different (less floaty, more power, speed difference) but just from looking at them, I couldn't tell.

mushroomedmario · 01-21-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mingus

I'm not sure if what really stated but has been some what assumed by most. I personnally hope that this is true. If not then I hope that they don't go as clone crazy in Brawl as they were last game. Although, I just hope they don't sacrafice open spaces for clones. Like, between Krystal and Falco, I would obviously choose Krystal. But I would be slightly dissapointed if they choose Falco over her. I don't really think we have to worry about it too much though. I don't think we'll experience an issue with that in this game. Saything that every character so far isn't a clone.

or they can just add both

i'm pretty sure a single clone wouldn't replace an original character, especially a clone from melee since the team has access to all the codings from melee

Mingus · 01-21-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mushroomedmario

or they can just add both

i'm pretty sure a single clone wouldn't replace an original character, especially a clone from melee since the team has access to all the codings from melee

Very true, adding these characters is hardly a problem at all. The longest part of adding a character (from melee) is simply the digital design of it.

Shoko · 01-21-2008, 10:33 PM

All clones were good really (Other than Pikachu and Pichu.) Ganondorf was different from Cpt. Falcon, Marth was faster and lighter than Roy, but weaker, Falco jumped higher and his smash attacks had different launch effects than fox's, and Luigi had different moves, period. The clone characters had the same moves [basically] but they all were still very different I say.

D1nner · 01-21-2008, 10:58 PM

I could see Luigi and Ganondorf being added (maybe even WW link), but a lot of the clones were (appropriately) not significantly different from the originals. I don't think they should be made into playable characters just for the sake of adding them if they could just as easily be made into Assists.

New characters like Geno at least have a bit of leeway, since they could have abilities different from what you would expect from a similar Veteran.

<3 Ness and Jigglypuff

+Maniacal=Maniac+ · 01-21-2008, 11:08 PM

Just To Clarify Some Things For People Who Don't Understand...

Vdogam3r · 01-21-2008, 11:37 PM

^I just noticed the page numbers >.>
70 PAGES OF STICKERS?!?
Lucario is pwnsome

islandvic · 01-22-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mushroomedmario

all he said was that not all characters from melee will be returning
OP
(thread title could have been clearer)

to mingus, falco and fox were pretty different too........

Sorry about that, I just didn't want to possibly make someone angry by spoilers lol.

Extra Life Mushroom · 01-23-2008, 03:39 AM

I call BS until we get an official update. The likelihood of jigglypuff getting back in actually may work, but the portrait looks more like Pokemon Trainer than Ness. Look at the hair style and the hat.

Edit:Never mind I just noticed the other portrait you were referring to.

Ness would have to be given a completely new move set, and seeing as how the way the Lucas update was worded, it seemed very likely that Ness was replaced.

The Lucario portrait is questionable since it's kind of hard to make out. and also I'd think we would have seen at least the announcement of any of those characters by now, especially since the Veterans section needs an addition badly.

I'd like to think this rumor is true but I'll take it with a grain of salt and settle on: We'll see.

mushroomedmario · 01-23-2008, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Life Mushroom

I call BS until we get an official update.

lol seriously? the video was on the official japanese wii site! what's so BSish?

Extra Life Mushroom · 01-23-2008, 04:09 AM

Was...past tense. Meaning it no longer exists for confirmation. Also why would one and only one person notice this? On a gamefaqs forum no less.. And you wonder why I have doubts?

mushroomedmario · 01-23-2008, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Life Mushroom

I call BS until we get an official update. The likelihood of jigglypuff getting back in actually may work, but the portrait looks more like Pokemon Trainer than Ness. Look at the hair style and the hat.

Edit:Never mind I just noticed the other portrait you were referring to.

Ness would have to be given a completely new move set, and seeing as how the way the Lucas update was worded, it seemed very likely that Ness was replaced.

why would he need a completly new moveset? the until now theory dosn't explain that ness would be out or a non-clone, he could be a clone

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The Lucario portrait is questionable since it's kind of hard to make out. and also I'd think we would have seen at least the announcement of any of those characters by now, especially since the Veterans section needs an addition badly.

I'd like to think this rumor is true but I'll take it with a grain of salt and settle on: We'll see.

okay so you say this theory is BS but go aloge with your own theories about how the dojo needs to be perfectly ballanced by the veterens and newcomers sections? i call that theory bs, there is absoloutly no logic to it at all! This isn't a rumor, it's a leak, don't mix them up

and that's clearly Lucario, what other pokemon looks like that? It's not that hard to see.....

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Originally Posted by Extra Life Mushroom

Was...past tense. Meaning it no longer exists for confirmation. Also why would one and only one person notice this? On a gamefaqs forum no less.. And you wonder why I have doubts?

more people noticed this, i saw the video before ninty removed them....

this news is posted everywhere (gonintendo, kotaku, n4g, smashboards, )

bilzar · 01-23-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mushroomedmario

this news is posted everywhere (gonintendo, kotaku, n4g, smashboards, )

(Ign)

Extra Life Mushroom · 01-23-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mushroomedmario

This isn't a rumor, it's a leak, don't mix them up

How is this a leak?

All it is is one person making what that consider an astounding observation, and then screaming on every mountian top how great their "discovery" is.

Until I hear for m Sakurai himself that Lucario is indeed a PC as well as the return of Ness and Jigglypuff. Then I don't/won't believe it.

This is just a random observation made by someone who's looking too deeply into a minor issue. Nothing more.