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Discussion in 'Smash Brothers' started by spiff-ssbb, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. spiff-ssbb

    spiff-ssbb WiiChat Member

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    so there's a bunch of different threads that lead into discussions/ arguements about whether or not there are clones in brawl. i'm tired of arguing in a million different threads about the same thing so i thought i'd condense them into one thread where you can chose a side and go nuts... to make things cooler TELL me what side your on and i'll put your name on the list

    those who believe there ARE clones:
    Lugia
    waluigi123
    Extra Life Mushroom
    Aions
    VidyaVince
    Mingus

    those who believe there are NOT clones:
    Spiff-ssbb
    Subarnu
    hicks31
    samXcor3
    Fastshadow
    KTIGZ
    mushroomedmario
    Luigi man
    zapasant93
    13ofHEARTS

    new section: people on the fence: (this includes those who believe in the half/semi clones)
    COLDshiver
    PrinceLink
    Nick Atack
    Shoko (i didnt know what section to put you in from your post so your here for now)
    GigaRidley
    Dkw0101
    CocoSSBB
    Vigilante
    Tomatktchp
    Douten
    Skullkid
    gallabr12

    as you can see i dont think there are. rather than telling why now i'll let you guys respond and then reply to you all specifically.

    go nuts everyone :)
     
    #1 spiff-ssbb, Feb 26, 2008
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  2. Subarnu

    Subarnu WiiChat Member

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    Ganondorf is not a clone of CF, CF is just posing... who has been around longer? Ganondorf has... by far...

    I am on the No Clones Side, CF sucks lol
     
  3. spiff-ssbb

    spiff-ssbb WiiChat Member

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    ^ your on the list :)
    but about CF sucks. he owns lol he's one of my melee mains...and in the SMASH series. he's an original vet whick Ganon is not. but your right Ganon's more of a nintendo vet... just not a smash one lol
     
  4. Subarnu

    Subarnu WiiChat Member

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    lol I only say CF sucks cuz everyone likes him more than Ganondorf, gotta stick up for the heavy-weight guys lol
     
  5. hicks31

    hicks31 Hyrulian

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    i don't think there are clones. Fox/Falco/Wolf just look kind of alike. From what, I've been seeing in videos, their moves are DIFFERENT.
     
  6. samXcor3

    samXcor3 the best kid!

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    That is a lie. CF was in Super Smash 64 with the same moves ganondorf has. CF is the original.

    Also, no clones for me.
     
  7. Subarnu

    Subarnu WiiChat Member

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    I ment in the Nintendo world, not just Smash World
     
  8. PrinceLink

    PrinceLink Solid Snake, Olimar

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    I sence some weight issues within your life, JK

    I think there are only Luigi semi clones in Brawl there are actaully KEY differences in Brawl between alike characters unlike Melee where there were only one small tweek in the move set of a character
     
  9. Lugia

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    theres definately clones. lucas, toon link ect. dont feel like going hardcore into the "clone wars" talk. haha

    AGREE TO DISAGREE
     
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    lol no, I was gunna say: Stick up for the little guys, but Ganondorf isn't very little.
     
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    i'm kinda in the middle but edging towards clones. I'm not totally for "clone". I don't know what to call them because "clone" is a little harsh because it would mean they are exact copies. I don't believe there are any characters that are clones but I do believe that some character's movesets are too similar for me and not original enough. Like, fox, falco, and wolf have lasers, shine, and same up-b but all three play so differently. Don't quote me though, I don't know enough of Brawl. And like marth and roy (in melee) have essentially the same moves but roy had some fire.

    I guess i'm for not clones but I do believe that some characters have similar movesets, characters that Nintendo should have made original movesets for.
     
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    PrinceLink Solid Snake, Olimar

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    First thats what she said to the underlined bold italized sentence above

    Ontopic: I guess Lucus and Falco are closest thing to clone sence move are similar and Final smashes are very close and almost exact to other characters, But they do play differently
     
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    I say B button and fs clones not A smash button clones / charecteristics such as speed and power.

    no clones list
     
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    waluigi123 mahmoud

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    Captain falcon is not a clone ganadorf is the clone. He is a gooky dufas that is just liek captain falcon , but fatter and a lot slower. Captain Falcon used to be the fastest in the game till sonic came.
     
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    Nick Atack =( Blooper isnt in Brawl

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    I believe there ARE Clones,but not EXACT Clones....
    There are differences in moves and Final Smashes.....
     
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    Okay first of all, "Gooky dufas"? Does that even make sense to you?

    Second: If the reason that you are calling Ganondorf a clone is because CF was(Melee) and is in the starting roster and Ganondorf came after(had to be unlocked) then that is a really weak point. The reason Ganondorf wasn't in the starting roster is because The Legend of Zelda already had 2 playable characters in the SR, Link and Zelda. Nintendo didn't want to fill the starting roster with just their two best selling games (Mario series and Zelda series) they wanted variety.

    Thirdly: CF is lucky to be in Smash, at least lucky compared to Ganondorf. Nintendo wanted to put characters in Melee that most of their audience would recognize and enjoy. So they looked at the two best selling series', Mario and Zelda. The Mario series has tons of characters in Melee and Brawl because (most if not) all of Nintendo fans recognize them. Same with the Zelda series, only, Nintendo didn't have as much choice in who to choose to put into the game. Link and Zelda were a given and so was Ganondorf but that was it so they put Young Link in (Young Link should have been replaced by Skullkid). If you take a look at how many people know of Ganon or Ganondorf and compare it to the number who know of Capt. Falcon. I swear to you that Ganondorf is more popular with the numbers.

    Finally: Ganondorf is not "fat", the reason he is slow is because he is strong and is muscular.

    Your reasons (if any) suck.
     
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    (melee) ganon was a clone because aside from looks and speed/power you had the same kicks and punches. you had 1 really different move which was the A forward in the air. he maybe my melee favorite but hes a clone.

    i wouldnt call CF lucky. come on even ness made it back in and without japanese spoilers i would of never thought that would happen.
     
  18. Subarnu

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    I agree that they had nearly the same move list but to say Ganondorf was a clone when he, Ganondorf was most-likely decided to be put in the game b4 CF is just unfair.

    If it was either Ganondorf or CF Nintendo would have probably chosen Ganondorf for the reasons I said above.
     
  19. Shoko

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    I hear that Wolf is just like Fox except heavier and stronger. Toon Link seems like a clone to me....but other than that I say that characters like Luigi, Ganondorf, and Falco are different enough
     
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    KTIGZ Dirty Jerz.

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    What he said.
    No clones at all.
     

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